Where can I find the original recipe perfume formula for the perfume
"Celui de Jean Desses" now discontinued? The perfume was French and my
mother bought it in the 1960s and 70s.  None of the customised perfume
houses can help me. I believe that these formulas are included in
journals but I don't know where I can find them or if I am allowed to
look at them. (Original Recipe Perfume Formula Journals). Thankyou. If
you could find out who originally manufactured the perfume for Jean
Desses and if they still exist, they might know.

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Request for Question Clarification by justaskscott-ga on 17 Jun 2003 08:14 PDT

I have found the original perfumes for sale on a few sites.  Would
this be a sufficient answer?

Your in luck! 

Well, Good news is, I think they still make it, still waiting on a
call back from a friend from France for you.

Apparently the company has also filed some legal papers, which also
will help tracking down this elusive perfume.

This site appears to be a company that sells the perfume :

http://www.ventesuroffres.com/vente42/page4219.html

Please note however that it is in entirely the french language.

http://www.jecollectionne.com  at one time this was also the companies
website, however it appears to have been taken over by one of those
fly by night search engines!

Vermont Country Store also offers a service to find missing products
and ultimately feature them in their catalog
http://www.vermontcountrystore.com

I'll keep looking if this doesn't work


Jase

My understanding is that Ventres sur Offres does not sell this
perfume.  In case you don't know French, take a look at the fine print
at the bottom of that page, as translated by Google:

://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ventesuroffres.com%2Fvente42%2Fpage4219.html&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=Unknown&oe=ASCII

Also, the translation indicates that jecollectione.com is a web site
that is unrelated to this perfume.

Au Contraire! haha I don't even know french!

The website was once owned by the company that manufactured the
perfume.. I didn't state that it was currently the site :)

Regards!

Au Voire!

The first site given by jasedca shows miniature sizes, and states that
these are no longer available for purchase. The prices are the top
ones that were obtained for these collectibles.

The second site is not a search engine, but a bulletin board where
people can post announcements if they wish to buy or sell collectibles
of various sorts. It includes a section for perfumes and perfume
bottles.

It appears the company is no longer in existence:
"A petition to cancel the registrations identified below having been
filed, and the notice of such proceeding sent to registrants at their
last known address having been returned by the Postal Service as
undeliverable, notice is hereby given that unless the registrants
listed
herein, their assigns or legal representatives, shall enter an
appearance within thirty days of this publication, the cancellation
will
proceed as in the case of default.
Les Parfums Jean Desses, S.A., Paris, France, Reg. No. 756,524 for
the mark CELUI DE JEAN DESSES, Canc. No. 28,802."
http://www.micropat.com/og/ogn991221/patserv.html 

In a list of perfume classifications at 
http://olfac.univ-lyon1.fr/documentation/olfaction/classification_des_parfums/class_nom-1998.htm
Celui perfume is classified as chypre + cuir (leather) together with
some other perfumes listed on the site.
"Chypre fragrances contain both bergamot (a small fruit with a
lemon/lime odor) and oakmoss. The name “Chypre” comes from the
fragrance Chypre by Coty, which was introduced in 1917. These scents
are reminiscent of earthy, woody notes. The five subdivisions for
women are “fruity”, “animalic”, “woody”, “fresh”, and “green”. The
four subdivisions for men are “woody”, “leathery”, “fresh”, and
“citrus”."
http://www.houseofversailles.com/families.ihtml#The%20Chypre%20Family

Try http://www.auntjudysattic.com They specialize in rae and
discontinued perfumes and related items. If they don't have it they
have a messageboard that you can place a request for a fragrance. I
think it is worth checking out.

TRY A WEBSITE CALLED AUNT JUDY'S ATTIC. THEY SPECIALIZE IN
DISCONTINUED PERFUMES AND THEY ALSO HAVE A MESSAGEBOARD.
http://discontinuedperfume.net