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Subject: Dual citizenship
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: munkeyboy-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 17 Jun 2003 08:05 PDT
Expires: 17 Jul 2003 08:05 PDT
Question ID: 218321
I am a citizen of the United States and hold a current passport.  Is
it possible for me to obtain a passport from another country (without
getting married or having birth right) and still retain my US
passport?
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Subject: Re: Dual citizenship
Answered By: politicalguru-ga on 17 Jun 2003 08:31 PDT
 
Dear Munkeyboy, 

The short answer is yes. However, this is a tricky question. 

The constitution does not refer to dual nationality, adversly or
otherwise.

The law actually stipulates, that "U.S. law does not mention dual
nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another.
Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does
not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a
foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In
order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must
apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and
with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship". (Source: Department
of State, http://travel.state.gov/dualnationality.html).

The Department of State also writes, that "Intent can be shown by the
person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that
dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of
policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries
on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual
nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens
abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a
stronger claim to that person's allegiance." (Source: ibid).

Nevertheless, the part on the "intention to give up U.S. citizenship"
is important for the interpretation of the law. Several court decision
have proved, that de facto, a person must demonstrate this intention
in statement, and serving in a foreign military, or other such acts of
allegiance to the other country of citizen, do not consist of a
behavior which is of "intention to give up". (For example, see the
case of Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967), as summarised here
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/cases.html#Afroyim.

However, each country has its own immigration and naturalisation laws.
Some countries do not permit dual citizenship, and in this case you
will have to give up your American citizenship in order to naturalise.
You would be also subjected to both countries' laws.

You could read more about this issue in the Dual Nationality FAQ:
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html

An interesting discussion on the question, could be found at
misc.immigration.usa:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3gdn23%24ise%40ia.mks.com&rnum=8&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522dual%2Bcitizenship%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D3gdn23%2524ise%2540ia.mks.com%26rnum%3D8

See also Adam Starchild's article (1994) "DUAL NATIONALITY UNDER U.S.
LAW" http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4nf4k7%24bh%40dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com&output=gplain

I hope that answered your question. If you need any clarification on
my answer, please let me know.

Request for Answer Clarification by munkeyboy-ga on 17 Jun 2003 11:22 PDT
So what are the easiest countries to apply to for citizenship?

Clarification of Answer by politicalguru-ga on 18 Jun 2003 01:47 PDT
Dear Munkeyboy,  

Please note, that this is beyond the scope of the original question. 

Generally speaking, citizenship is granted on grounds of: 
- Ancestry (that is, if your family immigrated from that country, if
you belong to a certain ethnic, religious or national group). For
example, Israel grants citizenship to every person of Jewish ancestry
(up to third generation, that is if your grandparents were Jews)
almost automatically, and probonopublico-ga here commented that it is
pretty easy to get an Irish citizenship.
- Blood relations (marriage, adoption)
- Birth on the grounds of this country. 
- Some countries grant citizenship to people who invest a hefty some.
- Some countries (i.e., Canada, Australia) are "immigration countries"
in the sense, that one could legally apply to immigrate.

What is the easiest way? 
It really depends on who you are. Canada, for example, has a point
system, where you could gain points for immigration based on your
skills, age, family condition and other factors - for young
professionals it is supposed to be quiet easy to initiate such
process. If you belong to a certain ethnic group or ancestry, the
easiest way might be just to apply to that country (this applies
especially to Israel). If you have some hetfy some of money you are
willing to invest, other countries would be appropriate and esier.

I hope that helped.
Comments  
Subject: Re: Dual citizenship
From: probonopublico-ga on 17 Jun 2003 10:09 PDT
 
If you've got an Irish grandparent ... it could be VERY easy.
Subject: Re: Dual citizenship
From: sanjiv_swarup-ga on 29 Jun 2003 00:57 PDT
 
i refer to the comment 
If you've got an Irish grandparent ... it could be VERY easy.

Please elaborate
Subject: Re: Dual citizenship
From: probonopublico-ga on 29 Jun 2003 11:09 PDT
 
Hi, Sanjiv

I have an Irish (maternal) grandad and I've been told that, if I can
produce proof, then I can get an Irish for 35 Euros. (I think it was
Euros but it might have been Punds.)

However, I have been unable to get my grand-daddy's birth certificate,
etc. But I'm still trying. Not that it matters, it was just a fun
thing.

Unfortunately, he had a very common name, John Foy.

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