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Subject:
Neighborhoods in New York City
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: robertmazzara-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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18 Jun 2003 20:39 PDT
Expires: 18 Jul 2003 20:39 PDT Question ID: 219063 |
How are neighborhoods in New York city named? I am confused by Crown Heights, Brooklyn and Jamaica, Queens. I know there are neighborhoods on Staten Island and in other boroughs too. What do these names mean? Does someone live in Crown Heights or in Brooklyn - are they just nicknames or do they mean something to the postal service, etc? |
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Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
Answered By: pinkfreud-ga on 18 Jun 2003 21:58 PDT Rated: ![]() |
I've found several slightly different stories about Crown Heights: "According to folklore Crown Heights was named for the largest hill in the area, which was infested with crows; the Brooklyn Eagle in 1873 suggested that the area was named for a settlement begun in 'crows' by whites." African American Planning Commission, Inc. http://216.239.41.100/search?q=cache:mJ84IIfIxaUJ:www.aapci.org/services/doc/01CROWNH.5.doc "Crown Heights, for the most part a lower middle-class residential area, lies on both sides of the ridge of Eastern Parkway. The section was known as Crow Hill until 1916, when Crown Street was cut through." Brooklyn Home Page http://www.brooklyn.net/neighborhoods/crown_heights.html "In the year 1886, millions of immigrants poured into the United States and settled in small towns and villages. Among these settlements was an area in Brooklyn known sometimes as Oakland, because of the trees that covered its hills; sometimes as Goat Hill or Crow Hill, because of its height. Finally, because from a distance, the hills appeared as a 'crown', the areas was designated as Crown Heights." St. Matthew Roman Catholic Church http://www.stmatthewsrcchurch.org/parish_history.htm "Originally founded as Dutch farmsteads in the 17th century, the Brooklyn neighborhood was settled by free blacks following the Civil War. The derisive nickname, 'Crow Hill,' was changed at the start of the 20th century with the addition of an extra letter and the tonier- sounding "Heights." Frederick Law Olmsted and Calvert Vaux, the planners of Central Park, designed the tree-lined Eastern Parkway in the style of a Parisian boulevard to cut a stylish path through the rapidly gentrifying area. But it was the 1913 addition of Ebbets Field, the legendary home of the Brooklyn Dodgers, that solidified the neighborhood's middle class credentials." http://www.ryanteaguebeckwith.com/masters/masters2.html ====================================================================== Things are a little clearer in regard to the origin of the name "Jamaica," in Queens: "In a nutshell, Jamaica is the largest (area-wise) town in Queens County. It is the area surrounding Jamaica Bay in the southern part of Queens and was purchased from the Canarsie and Rockaway Indians, in usual Dutch settler fashion, for guns, blankets, kettles, and "8 bottles of licker."...The area was formally named 'Jamaica' in the early 18th century, probably for the Jameco Indians of the area and not for the island at all." Why a Duck http://www.whyaduck.com/ducklist/v2/02-024.htm "Jamaica Queens was not actually named after Bob Marley's Jamaica; in fact there's some evidence that the Caribbean island was named after the old Queens country village, which was one of the earliest communities in Dutch/Colonial New York. This village, like many places in or near early New York (Manhattan, Hackensack, Gowanus) was named after an native-American tribe, in this case the Jamecos." Literary Kicks http://www.litkicks.com/Queensboro/Queens/QnsSouthEast.html "...even during colonial times, Queens had an international flavor, as attested by some of its place names. Flushing is named after the Dutch village of Vlissingen. Jamaica is named after the Jameco Indians who once populated the region. And Queens itself is named after Catherine of Braganza, a Portuguese princess who became Queen of England during the 17th century." Young Audiences New York http://www.yany.org/resources/qns.html ====================================================================== Regarding your question "are they just nicknames or do they mean something to the postal service, etc?", technically neither Crown Heights nor Jamaica "means something" to the United States Post Office. But neither do "Brooklyn" or "Queens." From the standpoint of the USPS, all of these place names fall under the city designation "New York City." In actual fact, a letter with a correct street address that gave "Crown Heights" or "Jamaica" as a city name instead of "New York City" would almost certainly be delivered. The names are much more than "just nicknames." As noted in the Columbia Gazetteer, Crown Heights has very precisely defined boundaries: "Crown Heights, E section (2 sq mi/5.2 sq km; pop. 3,200) of borough of Brooklyn, N.Y. city, SE N.Y.; borders Prospect Park and the Brooklyn Botanic Gardens to NE; bet. Atlantic Ave. (to N) and Empire Boulevard and East New York Ave. (to S); 41°38'N 73°56'W." Bartleby: The Columbia Gazetteer of North America http://www.bartleby.com/69/79/C11879.html Here is a description of the boundaries of Jamaica: "Jamaica is centrally located in Queens, New York. One of the area's most important advantages is its prime location adjacent to several forms of transportation-air, rail, highway and subway. The area is situated midway between JFK International and LaGuardia Airports, approximately 10 miles form downtown Manhattan. Downtown Jamaica is bounded by primary arterials, to the west the Van Wyck Expressway and to the north the Grand Central Parkway. The Long Island Railroad serves as the link between the commuter shed in Nassau and Suffolk Counties." Gotham Gazette http://www.gothamgazette.com/searchlight/pdf/cp_dist28.pdf ====================================================================== These were the Google search terms that gave me the best results: Google Web Search: "crown heights was named" ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22crown+heights+was+named Google Web Search: "crown heights" + "crow hill" ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22crown+heights%22+%22crow+hill Google Web Search: "queens" + "named jamaica" ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=queens+%22named+jamaica ====================================================================== Thanks for asking a question that was very interesting to research. If anything is unclear, or if a link does not function, please request clarification; I'll be glad to offer further assistance before you rate my answer. Best wishes, pinkfreud |
robertmazzara-ga
rated this answer:![]() I thought the answer was interesting and the comments made by nelson were very good too. I had wondered about this for a long time (stupid because I live in Michigan) but I appreciate the answer. |
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Subject:
Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
From: nelson-ga on 19 Jun 2003 09:02 PDT |
Address-wise: People in Manhattan live in New York, NY. People in Brooklyn live in Brooklyn, NY. People in the Bronx live in Bronx, NY. People in Staten Island live in Staten Island, NY. People in Queens live in different places. Could be Jamiaca, NY; Astoria, NY; Long Island City, NY. etc. For Queens only, the address depends on the neighborhood. An envelope would never be addressed to Queens, NY. If you try to find the zip code for Queens (http://www.usps.com/zip4/citytown_zip.htm), you'll find that Queens does not exist. Also, people of a certain section of the Northwest Bronx like to address their mail as Riverdale, NY, but this is not acceptable according to the USPS. Also, the each borough is its own county, but the borough name may not be the county name. Manhattan is New York County. Brooklyn is Kings County. Staten Island is Richmond County. The Bronx is Bronx County. Queens is Queens County. Note that, except in addressing an envelope, Bronx is preceded by "The". This applies in foreign languages, too: Spanish: El Bronx; Portuguese: O Bronx; Italian: Il Bronx, etc. |
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Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
From: nelson-ga on 19 Jun 2003 09:12 PDT |
And just to clear up one of pinkfreud's comments, mail outside Manhattan should NOT be addressed New York, NY. Crown Heights should be Brooklyn, NY. Jamaica should be left as Jamaica, NY. You will find that Jamaica is the default city/town name for numerous ZIP codes (http://www.usps.com/zip4/citytown_zip.htm). (And in Manhattan, do not add "City" in the address.) |
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Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Jun 2003 11:22 PDT |
I am sorry for the error regarding the addressing of mail. Nelson-ga is correct. I received my information from a friend who used to work for the U.S. Post Office. Maybe this sort of misinformation explains why she no longer works there. ;-) ~pinkfreud |
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Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Jun 2003 20:26 PDT |
Thanks for the tip! ~pinkfreud |
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Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
From: bambi16f-ga on 01 Aug 2003 12:28 PDT |
In my experience, Postal Service locality names in NYC are optional except in Queens County/Borough of Queens. The name of the borough will do for the other four. When using a locality name within the other four boroughs, the name of the borough is not needed. Checking the USPS site for validity of a locality name is a good idea, but the correct ZIP code should do. http://www.usps.com/zip4/citytown_zip.htm Borough of Manhattan New York County New York City, NY Borough of the Bronx Bronx County Bronx, NY Borough of Staten Island Richmond County Staten Island, NY Borough of Brooklyn Kings County Brooklyn, NY Borough of Queens Queens County <in Queens use locality name, eg Flushing, Jamaica, Bayside, Astoria, Woodside, Sunnyside, Jackson Heights, Long Island City, Corona, Forest Hills, Far Rockaway, etc. There used to be 5 or 6 (?) major zones indicated on the Hagstrom Street Maps. If memory serves, they were Flushing, Jamaica, Astoria, Long Island City, The Rockaways and Woodside(?)> some more info on naming of NY hamlets, villages and other jurisdictions is here: http://prometheusli.com/hamlet/hamlet_tree/locality_names.htm |
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Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
From: nelson-ga on 31 Aug 2003 00:38 PDT |
Bambi is wrong. Only Queens uses the locatilty names. Manhattan is New York (DO NOT INCLUDE "CITY"!). The other 3 boroughs use the borough name. |
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Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
From: gotham_spartan-ga on 29 Sep 2003 16:30 PDT |
Note that there is a functional difference between the boroughs and the counties, which helps explain why the two sets of names continue. To the extent their function is as a subdivision of the state, e.g., for election of the district attorney or for court organization, they are counties. None of the courts use the borough name; they all use the county names. While the D.A.s are informally referred to as the, e.g., Manhattan D.A., he is in fact legally the District Attorney for New York County. To the extent the function is as a subdivision of the city, then you are talking borough, e.g., the election of a borough president. |
Subject:
Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
From: virid-ga on 02 Feb 2004 09:27 PST |
<p>nelson is generally correct: <p><i>People in Manhattan live in New York, NY. People in Brooklyn live in Brooklyn, NY. People in the Bronx live in Bronx, NY. People in Staten Island live in Staten Island, NY. People in Queens live in different places. Could be Jamiaca, NY; Astoria, NY; Long Island City, NY. etc. For Queens only, the address depends on the neighborhood. An envelope would never be addressed to Queens, NY. If you try to find the zip code for Queens (http://www.usps.com/zip4/citytown_zip.htm), you'll find that Queens does not exist.</i> <p>The Queens rule changed in 1998. You can find more about that here: <a href="http://www.house.gov/ackerman/press/zips.html">"Ackerman gets Postal Service to Recognize Queen's Communities by Zip-Codes."</a> |
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Re: Neighborhoods in New York City
From: virid-ga on 02 Feb 2004 09:28 PST |
Sorry, I was adding the HTML by my own. First time posting at Google. =) |
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