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Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being select
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: mishka7-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
19 Jun 2003 09:55 PDT
Expires: 19 Jul 2003 09:55 PDT Question ID: 219253 |
Hello. My brother screwed up. He signed up for AOL dial up service and when prompted selected a non local number, even though with the same area code. That was quite an expensive mistake because long distance phone bill was over 400 USD. The question is what options, if any do we have to reduce that bill and/or negotiate a deduction? Telephone service is on our mother's name and she doesn't have a really good credit history and not too much concerned with establishing one. 400 USD is like a 1/3rd of their income so paying this thing would be extremely hard for them. Thank you for your help. |
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Re: Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being se
From: hummer-ga on 19 Jun 2003 10:14 PDT |
Hi mishka7, I don't think there's much you can do about your present phone bill but have you changed that phone number?? Click on My Computer / Dial-Up Networking Highlight the account you are using Right click and select Properties Type in your local phone number! hummer |
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Re: Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being select
From: mishka7-ga on 19 Jun 2003 10:28 PDT |
He did change the number now... too late to change the bill:) |
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Re: Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being select
From: greco-ga on 19 Jun 2003 12:52 PDT |
Foreword: This happened to me about a year ago after moving, so I've probably forgotten some stuff. I do remember what a pain it was though. I had this problem after we moved to a new city. 7-digit dialing connected us to the ISP without warning. In my previous experience, all long distance numbers required to dial at least a '1'. We unfortunatly could not get the whole amount stricken (more than $300), but I did hound customer service. They kept saying they could do nothing, so I would ask for their boss, "Is there some one I can speak to that can help me with this?", until I got to a man who could do something (actually, I asked him the same question, and he basically told me he didn't have a boss, though I know this can't be true unless he's the president or something). He offered me 25% off or something, and I said something like "if you can go 25, then you can go 50" and he finally caved. But this was a very long conversation before that happened, went round and round, I basically just kept repeating what I had been saying all along. It seemed that he, as a customer service manager (or whatever), could not dismiss me and just hang up. And I didn't finish the conversation until I got something more. I still wasn't happy with the whole deal, but at least it wasn't a $300 bill anymore. I was never mean or nasty, and never raised my voice or anything, but I wouldn't let go. He probably just got tired of listening to me. Here are the arguments they presented: -When signing up at the ISP, the ISP probably had a notice that you need to verify the phone number as long distance. -The front of the phone book shows your calling area and what's local vs. LD. -You should call the ISP and see if they will reimburse you. My arguments / rebuttals: -I've been a BellSouth customer all my life and my experience is that I've always had to dial at least a '1' in order to make a long distance call. -We've just moved here and even though requested a phone book more than a month ago, we have yet to receive one. there may have been more, but that was the basis i think. The best you can probably hope for is getting a percentage taken off. Good luck. |
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Re: Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being select
From: research_help-ga on 19 Jun 2003 13:40 PDT |
I don't think the problem here is with long distance charges which are typically in a different area code. I believe the issue here is with local toll calls that are too close to you to be long distance, but too far from you to be local. Even though they are distinct from long distance, the rates can be just as high or higher for local toll. I would recommend finding out what your phone company's best local toll plan is, figure out how much the bill would have been under that plan, plead for mercy, and then offer to pay them what the bill would have been if you had been using their best rate plan. |
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Re: Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being select
From: mishka7-ga on 19 Jun 2003 14:02 PDT |
Well they are using long distance service provider for instate calls that are not "local". And the rate was pretty much the best rate for those calls they had... I guess we got to try just calling customer service and complain. Not sure if that would help. |
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Re: Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being select
From: to_be_determined-ga on 19 Jun 2003 15:21 PDT |
That's exactly the reason I don't sign up for a PIC and a LPIC, primary interexchange carrier and local primary interexchange carrier, respectively. PIC is simply your interstate long distance company, whereas LPIC is your intrastate local long distance company. I do it for the following reasons: 1. No spamming and negotiators to switch phone company. Since I didn't sign up for any carriers, I am not on anyone's radar screen to try winning me over. 2. Since I didn't sign up for any carriers, no toll calls can go through. So, I wouldn't accidentially dial to a number which I need to pay. Since I have a cell phone, so I can choose to use my cell phone minutes instead. 3. If you shop around, those 10-10 dialing can be a bargain. |
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Re: Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being select
From: mysteryreader-ga on 19 Jun 2003 20:20 PDT |
You *might* catch a break if your brother is under 18. If so, there may be some legal loophole that he couldn't legally commit to / contract for the expense. Does your brother have any sort of a job? Maybe offer to pay off the bill at some modest rate, based on what he makes from his job. |
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Re: Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being select
From: cynthia-ga on 11 Jul 2003 12:04 PDT |
greco-ga's method works. I've been in Customer Service for years, keep asking for supervisors, and never, ever be rude. Keep repeating yourself. They WILL cave in when you get high enough in the chain of command. |
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Re: Phone Long Distance bill for internet service (non local number has being select
From: mishka7-ga on 12 Jul 2003 08:57 PDT |
I'm never rude, what give you that idea ;) I spoke with those guys a couple of times and so far I'm at supervisor level and they are offering me 20% off the bill. That's not much so on Monday I'll try to contact them again and ask for something more. two arguments I'm using are 1. they could have called me when they saw such a huge increase in the usage of long distance telephone 2. I can't pay the whole thing anyway. + we've being customers for a long time and blah blah blah... So my strategy is to ask for a supervisor on each iteration, but what if they stick to this 20 % writeoff and that's it. What are my other arguments. Like for instance, if I wouldn't pay the bill at all but would register a dispute with let's say Federal Communications Commision (if they accept those disputes) would my long distance service provider be able to sell my "overdue loan" to the collection agency? How much for a dollar would they gvet from collection agency? I guess for them a good deal would be if I pay more for this thing than a collection agency... Should i even try to use those arguments in communicating with them or it would be too rude:)? Thanks for all your help. |
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