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Subject: Donno whether google has removed our site from index
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: nawaz-ga
List Price: $2.50
Posted: 19 Jun 2003 19:53 PDT
Expires: 19 Jul 2003 19:53 PDT
Question ID: 219508
We are a new site http://www.thaigemshopping.com . The thing is last
week we submitted this ASP programmed web site but at the time of
submission index.asp was not the document index. So we used
index.html(which was by default document index) and used <body
onLoad="location.href='index.asp'"> . That time google too visited our
site and on searching
"Find web pages that contain the term "thaigemshopping.com" " produced
our site. But clicking that produced page not found error.
 
We suspect that google has penalized our site thinking that its a
doorway page that is submitted but we submitted the full url only
www.thaigemshopping.com/index.asp . Then we asked the server people to
immediately change the document index to index.asp and also removed
index.html file from our directory and we RE-SUMBITTED.
 
But it seems that google has still penalized our site and google
toolbar showing zero .

We like to know whether google has really penalized our site and if
its so kindly help us in to get into google index and remove us from
penalyzing.
Thanks
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Subject: Re: Donno whether google has removed our site from index
Answered By: mcfly-ga on 20 Jun 2003 12:04 PDT
Rated:3 out of 5 stars
 
Hi Nawaz,

After some investigation, I think it is unlikely that your site,
www.thaigemshopping.com has been penalized for the use of a 'doorway'
page.  Searching Google for 'www.thaigemshopping.com' shows the index
page has been included in the Google listings.  You can see these
results here:

Google Search "+www.thaigemshopping.+com"
://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22%2Bwww.thaigemshopping.%2Bcom%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta

Google records pages from the Internet using a piece of software
called a 'spider'.  The spider jumps from page-to-page through
hyperlinks, just as a human surfer would do.  The likely effect of
using a doorway page would be for the spider to assess the doorway
page's content, decide there is nothing of use, and omit the page from
the index.  Whether or not the page 're-directed to' would be indexed
is dependent upon the unknown subtleties of the Google spider
algorithm.  Whatever the case, the HTML generated by index.asp is now
listed within search results by Google, so the potential problems
caused by the doorway page have not occurred.

The number displayed by the Google Toolbar when viewing your site
corresponds to its PageRank.  This is a quantity which Google
calculates for each page in its index to enable the sorting of search
results; the higher a page's PageRank, the higher its position in the
search results.  A full description of the theory behind PageRank is
available here:

Google Technology
://www.google.com/technology/

Essentially, your PageRank (PR) is strongly dependent upon the number
of, and PR of, sites linking to your own.  Your current PR, as you
pointed out in your question, is zero, and this is caused by at least
one of the following two reasons.

To determine the number of incoming links to your site, search Google
for '"+www.thaigemshopping.+com"'.  This yields only a single external
link to your site from www.mijewels.com/main/contactus.asp.  Your low
PR is therefore at least partially caused by a lack of links to your
site.  To increase the number of links to your site, and hence your
PR, it is worthwhile using the following methods:

* email webmasters of sites related to your own and ask them to link
to your site.  Offer to link to them in return, but do not use 'Link
Exchange Schemes' or sites which advertise a guaranteed #1 results
position.

* include your URL in your signature when writing in forums or online
publications.

* submit your site to online directories such as:

Yahoo  Directory
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/suggest/ 
 
Open Directory Project
http://dmoz.org/add.html 

Continuing with the subject of PageRank, the second possible reason
for zero PR is that Google have penalized you, not for using a doorway
page, but for taking part in a 'Reciprocal Linking Scheme'.  Although
Google accepts the informal swapping of links between webmasters, the
use of link schemes is thought to unfairly bias the search results,
and is commonly punished by setting a site's PR to 0.

Using the incoming link search on www.alltheweb.com, I discovered a
second site linking to your own:

Travel Web Sites Reciprocal Link Exchange
http://www.limousinestop.com/Links.asp

This is the type of link swapping scheme that Google are likely to
frown upon, and may be an alternative cause of your low PR.  I would
suggest removing any link to this site from your own pages, and
working to build your PageRank through the safer strategies I
mentioned above.

Looking to the positive side of the situation, it is likely that your
low PageRank is merely due to a lack of incoming links, and this can
be combated simply with a bit of work.  If you find in 2-3 months time
that your PageRank is still zero however, it may be worthwhile
emailing the Google Help Team at help@google.com and explaining that
you think you may have been penalized and asking if they could
unfreeze your PageRank.

Further useful information regarding the inclusion of web sites in the
Google search engine is available from:

Google Information for Webmasters
://www.google.com/webmasters/

The following list includes some sites which you may find useful when
optimizing www.thaigemshopping.com for search engines in general.

Search Guild: Google 
http://www.searchguild.com/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=06aa8600d65505aae97fa5ce1f4dcf30
 
Search Engine Watch  
http://searchenginewatch.com/   
 
Webmaster World  
http://www.webmasterworld.com/  
 
Search Engine World 
http://www.searchengineworld.com/ 


I hope this has answered your query satisfactorily; if you would like
clarification of any area please do not hesitate to ask before rating
my answer.

Kind regards,


mcfly-ga :)


***Search Strategy***

"+www.thaigemshopping.+com"
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