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Subject: Website question
Category: Arts and Entertainment
Asked by: shoaib-ga
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Posted: 20 Jun 2003 16:57 PDT
Expires: 20 Jul 2003 16:57 PDT
Question ID: 219866
I want to know that how can a person come to know that commercial 
website  has its  website  registered  with  the  government?

Request for Question Clarification by serenata-ga on 20 Jun 2003 17:16 PDT
Hi Shoaib ~

That question is way too broad. Which website are you talking about
...

More importantly, which government?

Most governments don't require registering a website, so what,
precisely, are you talking about?

Serenata

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 20 Jun 2003 17:38 PDT
Hello  serenata-ga  researcher and  thanks for your clarification.
Please note  that I  am  talking  above  about those  commercial 
websites  which are  launched  from  United  Kingdom  country.

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 20 Jun 2003 17:48 PDT
serenata-ga  researcher   you  also  said  that  most  governments 
don't  require registering  commercial  websites  then  in  this
situation  I want to  know  that  there might  be the possibility 
that  those commercial  websites  might  be  fraud  websites?  Note; 
I am  referring  towards  the  porn   and  money  earning  websites 
in the  United  Kingdom  country.

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 20 Jun 2003 17:56 PDT
serenata-ga  researcher  if  you  need  any  particular  referance  of
any  'commercial  porn  and  commercial  money  earning  websites'
launched  from  United  Kingdom  country,  I  can  provide  those 
website  addresses to  you  on  your  another  request.

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 20 Jun 2003 18:09 PDT
serenata-ga  researcher  please note  that  I  have  not  provided 
the website  addresses of   those   porn  websites  launched  from
United  Kingdom  country till  now   because  this  answers.google.com
  website  discourages  or  removes  information  of  the porn  
websites  but  upon  your  specific  another  request,  I  will 
provide  the  website   addresses  of  those  porn  sites.

Request for Question Clarification by serenata-ga on 20 Jun 2003 20:34 PDT
I doubt the UK government registers or endorses the business practices
of porn websites; and off the top of my head, I can't think of any
government that does.

Perhaps a Google Answers Researcher who is more familiar with the UK
will be able to assista you with an answer.

Serenata

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 21 Jun 2003 15:35 PDT
Note;  After clicking  'whois'  query,  you  will  find  the 
'administrative  and  technical   contact'  of the   above  mentioned 
 porn  websites  which   are  located  in the  United  Kingdom 
country.  So  therefore I now  want  to know  that  those  mentioned 
commercial  porn  websites  have  their  websites  registered  with
the  government  of  United  Kingdom  country   or  in  other  words 
those  commercial  porn  websites  are  doing  legal   or   illegal 
business  in  the  internet?
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Subject: Re: Website question
From: owain-ga on 21 Jun 2003 08:36 PDT
 
Under United Kingdom (English and Scottish) law, websites are subject
to the same laws as anything else.

Obscene publication: In the case of R v Graham Waddon, which was
before the Southwark Crown Court in London, Judge Christopher Hardy
held that an act of publication took place when the data was
transmitted by the defendant to the Internet service provider, and
that the publication or transmission was, in effect, still taking
place when the data was received by someone accessing the relevant
websites. Both the sending and receiving took place within the
jurisdiction of the court and it was irrelevant that the transmission
may have left the jurisdiction in between the sending and receiving.

The decision in Waddon does not come as any real surprise. Hopefully
however it puts an end to the often quoted contention that someone in
the UK who establishes a pornographic site which is held on a server
in, for example the US or the Netherlands, but which is still
accessible by UK is thereby immune from prosecution in this country.

The prosecution was brought under the Obscene Publications Act 1959
(OPA), which is the principal piece of legislation regulating
obscenity in the UK. The Act makes it an offence (punishable with up
to 3 years imprisonment or an unlimited fine or both) to publish an
obscene article or to have an obscene article for publication for
gain. The OPA has been amended by the Criminal Justice and Public
Order Act 1994 so that publication is now clarified to include the
transmission of electronically stored data which, on resolution into
user viewable form, is obscene. The effect of the amendment is to
render liable not only the sender of obscene material but also the
organisation providing facilities which allow access to the Internet.

(Summarised from www.hamiltons-solicitors.co.uk , who specialise in
Internet law, and other reports of this case).

If you believe a person in the United Kingdom is operating an illegal
pornographic website (note that not all forms of pornography are
necessarily illegal) you should contact the police force in that
person's area. Police forces can be looked up at www.police.uk

Fraud: Transactions on the Internet are protected by the same consumer
protection legislation as applies to other transactions. This is
enforced by the Trading Standards department of the local council in
that persons area, and can be looked up at www.tradingstandards.gov.uk

Money earning: Pyramid selling, multi-level marketing, and similar
money-making schemes are quite strongly regulated in the UK. The
primary contact here again is Trading Standards.

You can locate the registrant for a UK .co.uk, .ltd.uk, .me.uk,
.net.uk, .org.uk or plc.uk website at www.nominet.org.uk

Owain
Subject: Re: Website question
From: owain-ga on 22 Jun 2003 09:10 PDT
 
shoaib-ga, please understand that website operators have no
requirement to register their websites with the UK goverment.

Just because a WHOIS query shows that a domain name is owned by a UK
individual does not mean that the individual is operating the website
from the UK. It is only if the website is hosted in the UK, or if the
material originated in the UK and was uploaded to a foreign server,
that the site falls within UK jurisdiction.

I have done a traceroute on the nudeindia domain you gave and that
appears to resolve to a cw.net customer possibly in the Chigaco area,
(although this is not conclusive) so the site may not be within UK
jurisdiction. The registrant of the domain name may be using a UK
accommodation address, and may not actually be located in the UK.

If you feel that these websites are in contravention of UK law then
you should contact the police. It is for the courts to decide,
ultimately, whether these websites are operating legally or illegally.

Owain

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