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Subject:
Listing of Dynamically Generated Web Pages on Google
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: abe-ga List Price: $35.00 |
Posted:
24 Jun 2003 13:58 PDT
Expires: 24 Jul 2003 13:58 PDT Question ID: 221283 |
Our online store Beadstore.com is having trouble getting our items listed on Google. All of our plain html pages return search results just fine -- however, our dynamically generated item pages do not seem to register with Google. For instance: a search for the statement "Millefiore & Fancy Venetian Trade Beads (Under $150)" returns this page: http://www.beadstore.com/african.html. However a search for this statement: "Long strand of uniform small trade bead strands" does not return item # trade 87 on this page: http://www.beadstore.com/dwos-bin/catalog?nccust=beadstore&page=BEADEDART&Category=Mille&limit=10&sortby=Name Google states in its policies that it does index dynamically created pages. My ISP has assured me that they allow searching by bots. Answers suggesting packages guaranteed to improve listings or promising submission to 10,000 search engines will be rejected. So will answers telling me to use Google's web page submission page (that's been tried and I will not spam them). Many of these pages have been up for 1+ years and still have not been indexed. Again, please note that I am not looking for help in improving my listing position or anything else only that my item pages get listed by Google. At the point I just do not understand what the problem is I'm assuming there is a technical fix, but credit will also be provided for clearly and unambiguously diagnosing the problem. Please assume some minimal computer competence, but very little knowledge of servers, etc. Thanks for your help, Abe |
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Subject:
Re: Listing of Dynamically Generated Web Pages on Google
Answered By: robertskelton-ga on 24 Jun 2003 16:53 PDT |
Hi there, As independent contractors, none of us at Google Answers are privy to the inner workings of the Google search engine. Unless a direct answer can be had from a Google search engineer, the best help anyone can give you is an educated guess. Having said that, this is from Google's guidelines: Reasons your site may not be included ------------------------------------- Your pages are dynamically generated. We are able to index dynamically generated pages. However, because our web crawler can easily overwhelm and crash sites serving dynamic content, we limit the amount of dynamic pages we index. ://www.google.com/webmasters/2.html Obviously they have made a choice not to index your dynamic pages. Factors they possibly use to determine this are: - PageRank of the home page - Number of parameters in the URL - Session IDs in the URL Your PageRank is 4. When showing results for backward links to a web page, pages with a PR of less than 4 are ignored. One would expect that the minimum PR required to have your dynamic pages indexed would be at least 4, and quite possibly higher. A site like yours, with a PR of 5, has had dynamic pages indexed by Google: www.shipwreck-beads.com None of the other sites in the same category as you have had their dynamic pages indexed: http://directory.google.com/Top/Shopping/Jewelry/Supplies/Beads/S/?il=1 The above site also has less parameters in the URL. According to GoogleGuy (a Google employee and the closest you will get to an official Google answer): "We're getting better on dynamic pages every month thanks to better analysis. I think we crawl dynamic pages better than any general search engine at this point.." "In general, it's still a good idea to keep the number of parameters short. But we are getting better over time" http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/12370.htm Doing a search for sites that include the parameter "nccust"... ://www.google.com/search?as_qdr=all&q=allinurl%3A+nccust%3D ...I find the only dynamic pages indexed are from netstores.com - so you are far from alone. It is possible that Google has decided "nccust=beadstore" is an end-user customer ID, and has tried to visit pages after removing this parameter - which doesn't work. So what is the answer to your problem? Another discussion at WebMasterWorld discusses the possibilities, but there does not appear to be a guaranteed solution: Tips for Helping Google Index Dynamic Pages http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/6784.htm This search brings up many more discussions on the topic: Google Search: site:webmasterworld.com google dynamic mod rewrite ://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awebmasterworld.com+google+dynamic+mod+rewrite Best wishes, robertskelton-ga |
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Subject:
Re: Listing of Dynamically Generated Web Pages on Google
From: waynebe-ga on 24 Jun 2003 14:09 PDT |
You need to remove the ? from your page. This ? indicates that it is a dynamic page. However, this requires a coding change for your web site, which can only be done by someone technical. Please see: http://asp101.com/articles/wayne/extendingnames/default.asp However, the code here will not work with your page, since it is most likely Apache, Perl or CGI. -WAyne |
Subject:
Re: Listing of Dynamically Generated Web Pages on Google
From: hammer-ga on 24 Jun 2003 15:25 PDT |
Actually, since you include the link with all parameters statically on your page, Google should try to follow it. I believe that the problem is that your link has too many parameters. I think the maximum that Google will index for a dynamic link is two parameters. - Hammer |
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