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primer on the subcoscious mind
Category: Family and Home Asked by: ah_oooh-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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27 Jun 2003 13:05 PDT
Expires: 27 Jul 2003 13:05 PDT Question ID: 222502 |
Where could I find a book, or some web reading, that could explain to my teenager the elemental theory of the subconscious mind as discovered by Freud and further developed by others? He's 17 and doesn't understand the stress he's under. He's having psychosomatic phantom illnesses. I'd love to throw him a book to get him started on basic ideas of psychotherapy. Something like "principles of the subconscious mind" if there is such a book. Thanks! | |
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Re: primer on the subcoscious mind
From: pinkfreud-ga on 27 Jun 2003 21:16 PDT |
I recommend against giving psychology books to a troubled teen; this could make things worse rather than better. Please try to get him into psychotherapy or another form of counseling. I had a difficult adolescence, but reading Freud gave me no useful insights into my problems, since I was intelligent enough (and neurotic enough) to rationalize my way out of recognizing myself in any of Freud's case histories. A caring therapist can do more for this young man than can all the psychology books in the world. |
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Re: primer on the subcoscious mind
From: sublime1-ga on 27 Jun 2003 22:48 PDT |
ah_oooh... Here's a page which lists a good basic introduction to 'Understanding the Subconscious', by Edith Packer, J.D., Ph.D. "Understanding the Subconscious" "Shows how the automatic functioning of the subconscious rests on core evaluations, which are fundamental, universalized evaluations based on concrete experiences. Explains how core evaluations underlie our everyday integration of aspects of reality and our emotional responses. No Q&A. Running time of 60 minutes. Price: $12.95 Pamphlet version, 16 pages (no Q&A). $3.25." http://www.capitalism.net/edith.htm A preview of the pamphlet can be viewed in this pdf file: http://www.capitalism.net/E_Packer/1-931089-11-6.pdf As PinkFreud notes, it might be better to read about it yourself and open a dialog with him to see whether he is receptive to the concepts. If he's not particularly interested in the theories at this point, it would likely be more productive to have a therapist utilize the concepts in actual sesssions, rather than worry about his comprehension of them. A good therapist will first productively apply the principles, and, as progress is noted, begin to instruct the client in the principles which are producing the obvious results. In this way, a client can move from, say, having a dream interpreted in a way that produces insight, to learning to interpret their dreams for themselves - something that may not interest them in the least until they have seen the practical benefits which can accrue from doing so. sublime1-ga |
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Re: primer on the subcoscious mind
From: ah_oooh-ga on 27 Jun 2003 23:14 PDT |
Sublime1 & PinkFreud: You are both probably right. Good advice. The problem is he lives in a small town in Illionois and he can't find a good therapist. One of them he saw actually laughed at him. Here's his question I was trying to answer, (he's 17) He's reporting "thinking problems" and... "My left chest has also been having pains for a while. I think it's due to stress, but it keeps coming back, even when I don't feel stressed. Do you think I could be stressed and anxious subconciously and not know it?" Thanks. BTW: How come there's Dianetics links at the top on this page? |
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Re: primer on the subcoscious mind
From: sublime1-ga on 28 Jun 2003 01:15 PDT |
ah_oooh... Coincidentally, my 20 year career in the field of mental health began in a small town in Illinois - Elgin, to be exact. As for your son's question, unconscious (repressed) stressors can lead to somatic (feeling) sensations, and a good way to approach these is simply to schedule some time to feel them fully, and meditate on their significance (meditate, not in the sense of thinking, but of 'listening', intuitively, to what may arise from focusing on them, breathing deeply and slowly, and opening to what they may have to reveal. As for 'thinking problems' he'd have to be much more specific than that, and any therapist who laughed at that without drawing him into elaborating on his meaning should be taken out back and....never mind. The point is that without clarifying his meaning, there is no way to preclude that his thoughts are not seriously troubled - suicidal or psychotic at the worst. While this may not be the case, and probably it is not, if he peceives his thinking as problematic, that is enough to indicate that some therapy and/or education is in order. The links for Dianetics would be the result of Google's 'targeted' ads, which show up (conveniently) in response to certain 'keywords' - in this case, probably 'psychotherapy' or 'subconscious'. sublime1-ga |
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Re: primer on the subcoscious mind
From: neilzero-ga on 28 Jun 2003 07:02 PDT |
I have little confidence in modern stress management. I'm 71 now and got adequate advice from ancient copies of the Readers Digest and from Sunday school. It is also helpful to get suggestions from older adults who seem to be well balanced = avoid extremes. Neil |
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