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Subject: Help Finding Right Kanji Characters
Category: Relationships and Society > Cultures
Asked by: datavortex-ga
List Price: $18.00
Posted: 28 Jun 2003 01:22 PDT
Expires: 03 Jul 2003 23:05 PDT
Question ID: 222725
I need the Japanese kanji characters representing the idea:
"One who suffers on account of romantic love".  The end result must be
verifiably gramatically correct kanji, preferably presented in one or
more graphics, as my Unicode/multilanguage support is minimal.

I have done some of the initial footwork already:

- http://animelyrics.com/anime/tenchi
This anime page transliterates "Ai no Ejiki" as "Victim of Love" (but
only in the context of a song title, so I consider it less reliable). 
This phrase may be the closest Kanji will come to expressing my idea,
and that's fine.

- http://www.shogi.de/download/Shogi_JapEngDict.pdf
This Abobe Acrobat file is the first hit on a google for "ejiki
kanji", telling us that "ejiki" means "prey, or victim".

- http://www.kanjisite.com/html/start/rhsinfo/r_ailove.html
The Kanji Site also tells us that "ai" means "love", and they give us
a character for it

http://www.kanjisite.com/html/start/rhsinfo/r_nounaya.html
Strangely, I failed to find "victim", "sufferer", or "prey" using
their search engine, but I did find plain "suffer".

I do not know nor understand the grammatical constructs of this
language.  I need the answer presented in a simple, straightforward
context, without having to "add a brushstroke here or there."

Thanks!

Request for Question Clarification by angy-ga on 28 Jun 2003 21:52 PDT
I can have this written for you by a Japanese contact tomorrow, but if
anyone else can organise it for you before then, go ahead.

Clarification of Question by datavortex-ga on 29 Jun 2003 03:08 PDT
A day is certainly not too long to wait for a reliable translation
from a person of the native tongue.  Thanks for your diligence.

Clarification of Question by datavortex-ga on 29 Jun 2003 03:32 PDT
Please see my comment below regarding "shitsuren".  Gracias.
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Subject: Re: Help Finding Right Kanji Characters
From: fp-ga on 29 Jun 2003 00:34 PDT
 
This page might be of some help (e.g. hiren, shitsuren)

http://japanese.about.com/library/weekly/aa021101b.htm
Subject: Re: Help Finding Right Kanji Characters
From: datavortex-ga on 29 Jun 2003 03:29 PDT
 
Very interesting, fp!

That page shows "shitsuren" as translating to "disappointed love", but
some other translators use "unrequited love", such as here:
http://www.animelyrics.com/anime/sotsugyoum/season.htm
http://www.jupiterstar.com/anime/lovehina/multimedia_ost.html

And "unrequited love" is actually something I'd like to work into it,
now that you've raised it to my attention.  Thank you!

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