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Subject:
Electronic Oscillators (Variable Low Frequency)
Category: Science Asked by: ramchandran1-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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07 Jul 2003 07:45 PDT
Expires: 06 Aug 2003 07:45 PDT Question ID: 226024 |
I want an electronic circuitry design for driving a piezo-electric crystal having the following specs: 1> To make an oscillating frequency generator 20 Khz to 60 Khz (variable). 2> Should be operated on a AA battery. 3> Should not be IC 556 based. 4> Should only use transistors. 5> Need block diagram, circuit diagram with component values. | |
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Re: Electronic Oscillators (Variable Low Frequency)
From: roadrunner_-ga on 07 Jul 2003 23:17 PDT |
It should be remembered that piezo-electric crystals cannot be made to "sweep" a frequency range. The marvelous thing about quartz crystals used as a frequency source is that they are as 'steady as a rock' on one specific frequency. A minor imperfection here is that the temperature needs to be held constant or they could drift ever so slightly off frequency. This can be bothersome when the signal is put through a frequency multiplier, which may multiply the drift by some number like 12 or 16, thus rendering the signal perceptably off the intended value. The frequency of oscillation is dependent upon the thickness of the wafer of crystal in the holder. You failed to say whether the output should be electromagnetic, with waves capable of being received by some sort of VLF receiver [very low frequency], or alternatively if you wanted the output to be audio, in which case the waves would lend themselves rather nicely to the job of being detected by the sensitive eardrum of a rat. |
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Re: Electronic Oscillators (Variable Low Frequency)
From: eek-ga on 09 Jul 2003 21:43 PDT |
This seems way too hard to do at the transistor level. Are you sure you understood this homework problem correctly? :) Are you doing this with discrete transistors? Do you mean ONLY transistors (like for an analog ASIC) or do you mean no ICs? An op-amp would seem to make the problem slightly simpler. Does the output have to be sinusoidal? A square wave would have harmonics that show up in the output adding distortion to the signal. At 20kHz, there would be quite a big one at 60kHz, which the output is going to have to be capable of following. You might also want to think about the linearity of the sweep. Driven by an exponential, saw tooth, or triangle wave... Incidently, this is low frequency as most of the resources online are going to be giving circuits in the MHz. Just my 2 cents... Bradley |
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Re: Electronic Oscillators (Variable Low Frequency)
From: eek-ga on 13 Jul 2003 03:43 PDT |
The linearity that I referred to was regarding the charging profile of a capacitor related to the frequency sweep desired. It seems that you would require an even larger capacitance (already at 1.3Hz!) or higher charging voltage to extract a relatively linear portion of the curve or else you would have very fast frequency change in the beginning followed by a very slow frequency change at the tail end. I would also expect that the temperature coefficient of a discrete transistor circuit may be of some concern. As an example, the 555 uses approximately 30 transistors to provide its fuctionality. While I generally dislike the tendency of people to throw a 555, microcontroller, or exotic IC at all problems they come across, in this case I am going to bring up the possibility of using a microcontroller. I know my analog design skills are woefully inadequate to provide a transistor solution. I would suggest that you look into a PIC microcontroller. There are a wide range of choices--looking up an 8-pin model, the power requirements are less (possibly substantially) than a 555. The power requirements are reduced by lowering the operating frequency and/or using the sleep functionality of the device. This would give you a reprogrammable, steady output that meets your frequency requirements. There may also be the possibility (if later deemed necessary) of accounting for the non-linearities and frequency response of the transducer, too. The 8-pin PICs have 6 general purpose IOs, which would allow both control inputs and an LED output (or two). One problem you'll come across is the 3V lower limit on the PIC's power supply. In other words, you may need two batteries. Hopefully this has been of some help. Perhaps Roadrunner or a researcher will have more to comment. Bradley |
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