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Subject:
Plugin141_02.trace
Category: Computers > Security Asked by: warbonnet-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
08 Jul 2003 23:35 PDT
Expires: 07 Aug 2003 23:35 PDT Question ID: 226851 |
I found four of these plugins on my hard drive. Two of them had been on the drive for about a month or so. What is the file and who puts it out as a plugin? Does it really trace my activities on the Net? |
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Subject:
Re: Plugin141_02.trace
From: damiam-ga on 09 Jul 2003 07:38 PDT |
"Plugin141_02" makes me think it might be related to the Java plugin (from Sun Microsystems), of which 1.41_02 is a recent version. .trace often means that the file contains debugging information, possibly generated when the plugin crashed. I doubt it's anything to be concerned about, but if you're worried, you can try running Ad-Aware (http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/), which detects spyware and tracking software on your computer. |
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Re: Plugin141_02.trace
From: efn-ga on 09 Jul 2003 10:02 PDT |
Although one can't be positive from the file name alone, most likely these are Java debugging output files as damiam-ga said. Sun Microsystems's documentation on tracing and logging in Java 1.4.1 says "By default the trace and log file names are, respectively: .plugin<version>.trace and .plugin<version>.log" Source: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/docs/guide/plugin/developer_guide/tracing_logging.html Note that these names start with a period, while the one you reported does not. If the file names on your disk do actually start with periods, that would be further confirmation that those files are Java trace files. A trace file just contains text that was sent to the Java Console. You may be able to open these files with a text editor and confirm that they look like Java console output. If that is what these files are, they are not plugins themselves and do not send out any information about your activities. They are outputs of some Java applet that ran on your computer, containing console output from when that applet ran. In this case, you can safely delete them. Search strategy: Google didn't have anything for the specific file name, so I searched for just plugin trace The page cited above was the fifth one listed in the search results. If you think this comment adds sufficient value to damiam-ga's comment, I will be happy to post it as an answer. --efn |
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Re: Plugin141_02.trace
From: warbonnet-ga on 10 Jul 2003 01:00 PDT |
Thanks to both of the respondents for thier timely answers. I need no further assistance reguarding the question. Both answers plus what I found on my own tell me they are indeed jave debugging plugins. They are safe. Thanks to both of you. Have a nice week. Sincerely, warbonnet |
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Re: Plugin141_02.trace
From: netweaver0-ga on 11 Jul 2003 08:52 PDT |
The above re-assuring comments are incorrect. I too found these files appearing on my hard drive and they are indeed generated by Sun Java, however they are not merely for internal consumption. I peeked inside with a hex editor and found the following: Using JRE version 1.4.1_02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = H:\Documents and Settings\(My username was here!!!!!) Proxy Configuration: No proxy ---------------------------------------------------- c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dump classloader list m: print memory usage o: trigger logging p: reload proxy configuration q: hide console r: reload policy configuration s: dump system properties t: dump thread list v: dump thread stack x: clear classloader cache 0-5: set trace level to <n> ---------------------------------------------------- ----------- RedSheriff Measurement ----------- Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm Record Sent As you can see, a record was sent from my computer, without my being made aware of it, to Red Sheriff - a data mining company based in New Zealand, in cahoots with several big names. I suggest you have a look at their web site. This plug-in trace is therefore a cookie of sorts, but mediated through Java, so I don't know if it will be blocked or even picked up by ordinary cookie detectors. |
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Re: Plugin141_02.trace
From: efn-ga on 12 Jul 2003 10:50 PDT |
We're dealing with guesswork and circumstantial evidence here. First, we can't draw any definite conclusion from the file name alone. Any program could write a file with that name. Second, we can't draw any definite conclusion about the contents of a file on warbonnet's computer based on the contents of a file with the same name on netweaver0's computer. Third, for the file to be used as a cookie, a program would have to be able to read it. A Java applet cannot read a local file unless the applet is signed with a trusted identity. See: http://java.sun.com/sfaq/#allowRead Of course, some other kind of program, such as an ActiveX control or a non-applet Java program, could read the file. Fourth, this file could be used as a cookie if security settings were loose enough, but that is true of any file. We don't have any evidence that any program either did or did not read the file. In summary, all we can say for sure is that it's named like a Java debug output file. We can't conclude from the information available either that it is safe or that it is sinister. --efn |
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