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Subject: Top 10 Answers from an SEO Expert
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: renvhoek-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 13 Jul 2003 14:42 PDT
Expires: 12 Aug 2003 14:42 PDT
Question ID: 229536
Hi:
  In order to help evaluate the quality of an SEO's bid, what would be
the top 10 things I'd want to see from an SEO company putting in a
proposal to upgrade the search engine rankings of our retail website? 
Also, what would be the 5 things in the proposal that should be a
warning sign, if they were to include such a think?
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Subject: Re: Top 10 Answers from an SEO Expert
Answered By: robertskelton-ga on 13 Jul 2003 16:07 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hi there,

Top 10
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1. An understanding of incoming links and their affect on Google
results.

2. A willingness to put in the really hard work of getting those
incoming links - not via automated schemes, but manually and
legitimately. If they want a fee for each link they ask for, that's
alright.

3. The proposal should give you the impression that they have
investigated your industry and your competitors.

4. They should give you some options of how they can do it. Usually
the options range from keyword tweaking, to copy re-writing, to site
re-design.

5. They should have a website and it should look professional.

6. They should provide current evidence of where their SEO work is
providing high rankings. If their own site is top 10 for "search
engine optimization", without cloaking, then that's pretty good.

7. They shouldn't be too cheap. If they are less than $US40 an hour,
and are established, be suspicious.

8. Their proposal should include more than just the initial work. With
Google, for example, it can take a month or two for ranking to
improve, and further tweaking is usually necessary.

9. They should offer to provide you with reports on how well their
optimizing is going - it shouldn't be left up to you to find out.

10. If your pages are created dynamically, they should suggest a means
of making them more friendly to search engines.


Warning Signs
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1. Guarantees of position. Pay for performance is okay, but seeing as
Google etc can change their algorithms overnight, most pro SEOs won't
even do that.

2. The SEO telling you which phrases or keywords they are going to
target, without explaining why and showing evidence.

3. Mentioning of more 10 search engines (unless they are also
targeting a language other than English).

4. Ongoing fees for maintaining #1 position - they are proabably
talking pay-per-click.

5. Any talk about certainty, any use of the word "definitely". Even
the most skilled SEO relies on a touch of luck.

6. Any mention of "cloaking" - it's wrong, it's deceptive, it's
cheating.

7. Any proud mention that they use software like WebPositionGold. It
has it's uses, but aside from getting reports on keyword density,
SEO's don't need fancy software.


Search strategy: personal experience - I work in the SEO industry.


Best wishes,
robertskelton-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by renvhoek-ga on 15 Jul 2003 21:28 PDT
Hi Robert:
  Sorry for the delay in asking for clarification.  I wanted to make
sure I asked it all in one go.

a) Is spending the $ on a Yahoo directory listing worth it - that was
in their proposal

b) Is it worth paying to have all the website pages submitted to the
engines that accept paid submission of mass pages e.g. AskJeeves,
Inktomi, fast (http://www.positiontech.com/ )

c) Reciprocal Link program - they suggested one - good or bad?  there
seems mixed opinions on this out there - I know the link farm stuff is
bad - but what about a bunch of reciprocal links with appropriate
websites?

d) Spending time on hierarchal linking within the website -
worthwhile?

e) Lastly - should I go ahead and fix everything I can fix myself -
then ask for an SEO proposal, or let the SEO just do everything
starting now?  based on the websites you've worked on, what's the
time/cost end up coming down to?

thx, Jon

Clarification of Answer by robertskelton-ga on 15 Jul 2003 22:19 PDT
Hi Jon,

a) I have had sites get double their number of hits after paying to be
listed at Yahoo. It's a ROI thing... Say for arguments sake that a
Yahoo listing gets you 20% more visitors - is that worth $299 per year
to you? Now that Yahoo own Overture, Inktomi, AltaVista and AlltheWeb,
you would expect that, one day, being in the Yahoo directory will
positively affect ranking on those engines.

In general, if you are willing to pay for a SEO, then it's also worth
you paying to be in Yahoo. Look at the category they suggest, and see
if you can find a better one. Higher up the hierarchy is better.
 
b) A lot of webmasters believe that if you just pay for the home page
to be indexed, the search engines will index the rest of your site
anyway - they just won't re-index the whole site every two days.
Usually just pay to have pages included that either have changing
content, or that you wish to tweak for better ranking, by changing the
copy, title etc.
 
c) One to one reciprocal links are fine, as long as they are genuine.
Make sure the links aren't on a page full with just links. Ideally
have the link appear within content. If Google sees a site on topic A
having a link on a page full of links pointing to a site on topic B,
and vice-versa, it won't think much of it. Probably won't penalize
you, but probably won't be worth the effort either. Do what's best for
your visitors, and Google will be happy.
 
d) Hierarchal linking is great. Works best like Yahoo's directory, but
with every page physically existing in the top level directory. Make
sure your site has a site map, and keep the links on it to less than
50. If your site has more than 50 pages, have a multi-page site map.
(Google only looks at the first 50 links on a page).
 
e) On my current project I was asked, what should we do in terms of
SEO work to the site, before I step in as SEO. I said, apart from
structure, I don't care, I'm almost certainly going to change whatever
you do. Most SEOs feel compelled to tinker, even if what is already
there is fine.
renvhoek-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $3.00
Thanks for your excellent answer and clarification.

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Subject: Re: Top 10 Answers from an SEO Expert
From: robertskelton-ga on 17 Jul 2003 02:47 PDT
 
An article you might find interesting:

The Myth of 'Guaranteed #1 Ranking' in Search Engine Marketing
http://www.searchengineguide.com/goetsch/2003/0620_dg1.html

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