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Subject:
Desperately looking for backup solution
Category: Computers > Software Asked by: dinocrates-ga List Price: $40.00 |
Posted:
05 Jun 2002 15:59 PDT
Expires: 07 Jun 2002 13:41 PDT Question ID: 23101 |
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Re: Desperately looking for backup solution
Answered By: chris2002micrometer-ga on 05 Jun 2002 19:16 PDT Rated: ![]() |
There is a cheap, simple method that I have come to rely upon that will not be generally advocated by the mainstream media for reasons that will become clearer as you read on. You want to back up data on a high capacity device such as a 40-80 gigabyte hard drive. What can contain all this data, provide a spare hardware parts source, allow experimental operating system upgrades, and yet be really cheap? GET ANOTHER HARD DISK DRIVE THAT IS IDENTICAL TO THE ONE YOU WANT TO BACK UP! Cost? $100, maybe? Initially you take the twin drive and substitute it for your current hard drive. Install the operating system and any critical software packages as if you were rebuilding your PC. Just switch the cables and load it up. PLEASE DO THE INSTALL WITH THE POWER OFF! Now you can go back to your original hard drive and (with most modern motherboards) substitute the second hard drive for your CDROM. Just move the IDE and power cables. There is no need to select master/slave jumpers. The PC will boot up with two hard drives. Now open two Windows Explorer sessions and drag whole folders from C to D. It is a manual process but it is quick and effective. In the event your primary hard drive fails, you can "borrow" the electronics board from the new drive to get your data back. I have done this successfully twice, out of two attempts where it was necessary to do so! In addition, I periodically zip up files of my precious data and upload them to free email/website facilities such as Geocities or Hotmail. Don't bother to back up software programs. You can buy them back. You can't buy your data files for any price, however. Also, I copy data, saved in plain ASCII, to numerous floppy disks that I keep in locations other than my normal office location. Send some to your parents or other relatives, out of state. Floppies are not very reliable over time, but they are cheap. Make lots of them and keep them away from heat and magnetic fields (CRT monitors). Also print some simple hard copy! Going back to my original suggestion, why not 4 or 5 identical hard drives? This way I can try an XP upgrade, play with Linux, have more than one hard drive archive, and more, for what, $500? They won't tell you this in the mainstream press because it kills a lot of marketing hype and perceived need for "zip" disks and such nonsense. Writeable CDROM's are also an option but they have limitations on how much you can drag over. An identical hard drive WILL ALWAYS have the space you need! I hope this is helpful to you. If you want me to chase some web links, please say so. To date, I have never seen the practical advice publicised that I have detailed here. Regards, Chris |
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Re: Desperately looking for backup solution
From: omniscientbeing-ga on 05 Jun 2002 16:45 PDT |
Most backup programs don't work by targetting specific files--they backup specific designated fodlers. There is no magic program that will automatically do every poiont which you listed. You select an enterprise level backup program, and then you have your IT Dept. create protocols around that system to manage your company's data backup solutions. |
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Re: Desperately looking for backup solution
From: webadept-ga on 05 Jun 2002 20:46 PDT |
I haven't found that to be true, there are several backup systems which target at the file level. I was going to answer this question earlier, but had a personal time constraint. The only real problem we have here is the CDROM staging area. That is the sticking point. I would guess that the basic design goals of most Backup/Recovery software systems, include a line item for "automated" meaning, no user required to be standing about. The idea of someone changing disks would not really occur to them. Not in a "major" software title. This is possible and probably rather cheap to do. I would look for a Perl programmer and have her setup a simple script for you that backs up everything listed in a database table. Get MySql or MSQL if you have it, setup a table with filenames and paths, and let her rip the disks. Really not hard at all, you'll get exactly what you want and probably for a lesser price tag. It won't "look" pretty, but it will run smoothly and accurately. Perl is a great language for this sort of need. I did do some searching and didn't find anything on a commercial site for you. Good luck in your search, webadept-ga |
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Re: Desperately looking for backup solution
From: riegel-ga on 06 Jun 2002 06:46 PDT |
It seems that no one is answering the question asked. I would recommend Retrospect as it meets all of the criteria you have provided. http://www.dantz.com/ I have used it quite successfully. It requires very little babysitting, and works with removeable media such as CDR. Of course if you have an 80 gig hard drive you will have to swap a lot of CD's I personally agree with the conclusions the other researchers have expressed, but they didn't address your question. Instead of answering your question they gave you advise. Advise is good, but you can think through why or why not you may have specified the criteria you did. |
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Re: Desperately looking for backup solution
From: dinocrates-ga on 06 Jun 2002 07:24 PDT |
Thanks riegel, I'll try that program. Although I do think I've found what I need... And it was right in front of my nose... I use XCopy, then catalog the copies, then compress it, then burn it... It's actually a little more complicated (and far from automated) than that, but it works the exact way I need. |
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