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Calc 1 - Tests for convergence
Category: Science > Math Asked by: truman-ga List Price: $6.00 |
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16 Jul 2003 23:02 PDT
Expires: 15 Aug 2003 23:02 PDT Question ID: 231908 |
using only BASIC tests for Convergence (comparison, root, ratio, integral test, etc.) show that the following three series are (or are not) convergent. 1.) 2 / [n * (ln n)^3] 2.) [tan (1/n)]/n 3.) [2^(1/n)]-1 |
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Re: Calc 1 - Tests for convergence
From: entropyx-ga on 18 Jul 2003 11:51 PDT |
1. Consider the function f(x) = 1/[x * (ln x)^3]. Clearly f(x) is decreasing. Integrate this from 2 to k, then apply the substitution u = ln x. You arrive at INT[du/(u^3), u from ln 2 to ln k]. So, by the integral test it is clear to see that this series converges (remember, the integral of 1/x^p converges for p > 1, the harmonic series being the most striking exception). I'll write back with 2 and 3 if I find anything later. - Entropyx |
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Re: Calc 1 - Tests for convergence
From: entropix-ga on 21 Jul 2003 14:09 PDT |
Hi again. Sorry I took so long to reply, but I hadn't given the problems too much thought. I believe that I have a solution for #2. In order to show that the series {tan(1/n)/n} converges, we will use a comparison test, i.e. we will show that, much like 1/n^3: 0 < tan(1/n)/n < 1/n^2 The fact that tan(1/n)/n > 0 for positive n is self-evident. So we must show that: tan(1/n)/n < 1/n^2 ... or: tan(1/n) < 1/n Or, we can say, is tan(x) < x? The answer here is a resounding yes. For all -1 < x < 1, the Maclaurin series of tan(x) gives x + x^3/3 + (2x^5)/15 + ... . We have this condition on x whenever n > 1. Thus, tan(1/n)/n converges. - Entropyx |
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Re: Calc 1 - Tests for convergence
From: entropix-ga on 21 Jul 2003 14:23 PDT |
Ha. Sorry, this is what I get for not sleeping. Obviously, tan(x) > x, and thus I am completely wrong. Ignore the previous message. - Entropyx |
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Re: Calc 1 - Tests for convergence
From: mathtalk-ga on 21 Jul 2003 21:47 PDT |
Hi, entropyx/entropix-ga: You are not completely wrong, your solution to part 2) is basically correct. Yes, tan(1/x) > 1/x on x = 1,2,3,... , but: tan(1/x) = sin(1/x)/cos(1/x) and cosine is decreasing on (0,1], so: tan(1/x) < sin(1/x) / cos(1) You can therefore estimate: 0 < tan(1/x) = sin(1/x)/cos(1/x) < (1/x)/cos(1) as x runs through the positive integers. 'Nuff said? regards, mathtalk-ga |
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Re: Calc 1 - Tests for convergence
From: truman-ga on 22 Jul 2003 03:17 PDT |
This answer for #1 is great. Thank you. For 2 and 3, my prof was looking for the Limit Comparison test. Using 1/(n^2) for number 2 {giving: n*tan(1/n)} and 1/n for number 3 {giving n*2^(1/n)-n}. This shows that 2 converges and 3 does not. I'll be away from the e-mail and the web for the next two weeks. SO MY NEXT RESPONSE WILL TAKE A WHILE. Is there some Google Referee who could step in and say what comes next. I appreciate all the effort, and the answer for #1 is spot-on. Thanks again, Truman |
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Re: Calc 1 - Tests for convergence
From: mathtalk-ga on 22 Jul 2003 06:59 PDT |
Hi, truman-ga: Entropyx-ga is not a Researcher and thus could not post the partial answer to 1 or 2 for payment. It often happens that questions receive partial or full answers as "Comments" rather than as Answers. I'm sure that Entropyx-ga appreciates the positive feedback on the answer to part 1, and this from my own experience is a strong motivation to post helpful comments. A couple of ideas about "what comes next". From the nature of your last comment it seems that you no longer need an "Answer" to this post. For that reason you may want to click the "Close" button on your page for this thread, which will "Expire" the question. No further Answer or Comments will be allowed. On the other hand if you wanted additional comments, you could let the Question go. Any reasonable Researcher would read all the foregoing Comments and probably realize your Question has already been answered to some extent, and that not much further improvement could be given in an "Answer". When a Question is allowed to expire at its "natural" 30-day limit, it remains open for Comments. regards, mathtalk-ga P.S. It may be a bit confusing to tell who is a Researcher and who isn't, esp. when you are ready good comments. Researchers will stand out as having clickable links for their names in the headings of posts; clicking their takes you to a summary of Questions previously answered by that Researcher and their ratings. |
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Re: Calc 1 - Tests for convergence
From: entropix-ga on 22 Jul 2003 08:58 PDT |
Ah, indeed. Thank you mathtalk for fixing the error. - Entropix (forget about the y thing) |
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