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Subject:
Vacation in France
Category: Sports and Recreation > Travel Asked by: raisondetre-ga List Price: $40.00 |
Posted:
23 Jul 2003 17:54 PDT
Expires: 22 Aug 2003 17:54 PDT Question ID: 234390 |
Dear Google Researcher, I will have the good fortune to travel to France on vacation with my fifteen year old son from August 10 to August 23. We will spend four nights in Nice and eight nights in Paris. Although we have been there before, the circumstances at those times was not conducive to sightseeing. Now we want to see as much and do as much as possible. Please prepare for us (1)Suggestions of things to see and do (2)Suggestions of which restaurants to patronize for the twenty four or so lunches and dinners we will have. We want French cuisine. I am thinking of paying about $50 per person per meal. This should include one bottle of wine with each meal. Also I would like to find several special restaurants in each place where we would spend roughly up to double that amount as necessary. Thank you for your help. | |
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Re: Vacation in France
From: omnivorous-ga on 24 Jul 2003 09:34 PDT |
I won't provide a complete agenda but rather suggest using Le Cordon Bleu for a one-day course or market tour: http://cordonbleu.net/International/English/courses/catalogue.cfm Bon voyage, Omnivorous-GA |
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Re: Vacation in France
From: raisondetre-ga on 24 Jul 2003 10:08 PDT |
Greetings Omnivorous, How Appropriate it is that a google researcher named Omnivorous om·niv·o·rous ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-nvr-s) adj. Eating both animal and vegetable foods. Taking in everything available, as with the mind: an omnivorous reader. from the Pacific Northwest has such a wonderful idea of what to do in the pursuit of food appreciation in the South of France! I am grateful for your suggestion which I will pursue. Best wishes, Raison |
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Re: Vacation in France
From: omnivorous-ga on 24 Jul 2003 10:33 PDT |
Raison detre Ive traveled to France quite a bit but dont know Nice well and my knowledge of Paris restaurants is out-of-date. However, I have a couple of suggestions for resources: The graffiti message board on the Rick Steves website is a very interesting way to stay up on the latest of changes. Also, an amusing way to experience Paris is to do his one-block Rue Cler tour. This Paris street has one of every kind of shop plus a couple of cafes and restaurants. You can use it to prepare for a picnic, as well as to see how the French use specialty-stores for food shopping: http://www.ricksteves.com/ http://www.ricksteves.com/plan/countries/france.htm Once youre there, Pariscope and Officiel des Spectacles (both published on Wednesday) have a great deal on nightlife and restaurants. Parisiens are serious about dining out and will review a restaurant and chef with the seriousness that Americans talk about baseball players. The daily newspaper, Le Figaro, also has a Wednesday special section (Figaroscope) with happenings in the city. Best regards, Omnivorous-GA |
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Re: Vacation in France
From: raisondetre-ga on 24 Jul 2003 10:57 PDT |
Omnivorous - As I begin dinner in a worthy French restaurant, I will offer a toast to you in absentia for your thoughtful insights and generosity in providing me with such useful information. Regards, Raison |
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Re: Vacation in France
From: raisondetre-ga on 25 Jul 2003 08:12 PDT |
My friend Omnivorous, Thank you for your explanation. It is a tribute to the integrity of google researchers that they will not provide an answer unless it rises to the highest level in terms of meeting the needs and desires of the questioner. You are absolutely correct that I was asking for personal injformation, not a rehash of information easily gleaned from a travel guide. In the short period of time that I have been regularly visiting google answers, I have been amazed at the skill and breadth of knowledge of the researchers.I am equally impressed by the warmth and humanity they display in their interactions with the questioners. To post a question here is not to merely to try to obtain information. It is, at its best, to participate in an intellectual collaboration with the researchers and to set forth on an adventure where the outcome often exceeds the reasonable expectations of the questioner. It is also to have a good time while learning. I like to think of the development of computer technology with the internet which makes google answers possible as resulting in the beginning of a Second Renaissance in the intellectual history of man, the path of which leads to a future in which we will, indeed, reach out to touch the stars. I have been trying to think of good questions I want answered. When I come back from France, I will post some that I think will be challenging and be fun to answer. Thank you again. Reason |
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Re: Vacation in France
From: angy-ga on 26 Jul 2003 02:21 PDT |
Hi, raisond'etre ! The Michelin Red Guide is the probably the most highly regarded guide produced in France. It can be consulted on-line through: http://www.viamichelin.com/ But you will need to be a member to access it. Registration is free. It is very prestigious for a restaurant to be included in it, so when you see a restaurant advertising its Michelin stars, you have a very good guide to quality. Also, if you get the guide to the Logis de France - a group of very special boutique hotels in the "Quaint plus special service" category, you will find they often have excellent cuisine. Lonely Planet Guides http://www.lonelyplanet.com/index.cfm and Frommers http://www.frommers.com/ are both excellent publications that began focussed on the very budget-conscious young traveller, but have extended beyond that as their customers have grown older, acquired children and become more prosperous. I usually borrow current editions from my public library when travelling. Unfortunately researchers cannot quote from these publications at any length without running into copyright problems. Other than that: Don't eat at the cafe inside the Gare du Lyons unless you want to pay far too much for the privilege. There's a good little place outside and across the square. My family Tip for "just happening" across a good restaurant in Europe. Start in the Grand Place(main square) of wherever you happen to be (in Paris that's any big square or obviously fashionable restaurant area). Walk away from it one block and turn left. There will be an excellent little place, possibly with a hand written menu, tucked away just there at half the price and possibly twice the quality. This works in Italy, too. My personal tip: don't ignore supermarkets or small groceries if you just want a quick lunch - and don't forget the French trick of eating choclate with bread. One stick French bread, one packet dark chocolate, local cheese, local cheap wine, fruit = one great lunch. Don't buy the very low priced supermarket wine with the screw top - that's for cooking , students and happy tipplers. One price range up makes a big difference. Remember claret is a very light wine - it can surprise you if you're used to the modern full bodied reds. Beaujolais is also light, burgundy heavier. Lots of good whites but Pouilly Fusee is a favourite of mine as is its cousin Pouilly Fumee (for its slightly smoky flavour) - great with fish. Most restaurants have a house wine ("vin du maison") which is more than adequate unless you really know your wines. Half the fun of finding a restaurant is to join the French and walk along looking at the menus on offer outside the various establishments. (No prices shown = very expensive.) A good rule of thumb is if the restaurant is full of locals (not tourists) the quality is likely to be good. (This is a good tip for picking a Chinese restaurant anywhere in the world ! ) You are going in August, which means Nice will be very full of high season holidaying French, and in contrast Paris may seem empty of the French and quite a few establishments (museums, theatres) may be shut. August is the traditional French holiday time and everyone goes away at once. If they are open, a visit to the Opera or Opera Comique is well worth the time, just to soak in the atmosphere of these wonderful old buildings. Tickets for the "amphitheatre" (the topmost circle in "the gods") used to be sold on the day to queues of students at very cheap prices - take your binoculars if that's the only way you can get tickets. Intervals were very long indeed - time for a quick snack in the cafes outside or more than one drink at the bar. I don't know if that's changed. For better tickets ask the concierge at your hotel, who is likely to be able to organise something. Have a wonderful time. |
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Re: Vacation in France
From: raisondetre-ga on 26 Jul 2003 04:33 PDT |
Hello angy, You have provided me with an abundance of high quality information which I shall certainly exploit. I am very grateful for your effort. All the best, Reason |
Subject:
Re: Vacation in France
From: fti-ga on 28 Jul 2003 06:46 PDT |
I don't know if this will help but, I think I can recommend you a restaurant in Paris wich seems to meet your expectations : La Coupole Address: 102, bd Montparnasse - 75014 Paris 14 Telephone: +33 (0)1 43 20 14 20 Fax: +33 (0)1 43 35 46 14 This restaurant always delighted me during each of my Paris visits. The Red Guide from Michelin describes it as : Meal prices: (16,50) - 29 incl. drinks (lunchtime)/30.50 and menu 33 to 60 13,50 Cuisine: brasserie Comments: The spirit of Montparnasse lives on in this immense Art Deco brasserie, first opened in 1927. The 32 pillars are decorated by masterpieces by artists of that period. A lively atmosphere. Personnal advice : As it is quite crowded you'd better call in advance to make a reservation. As said by angy-ga, you can trust the Michelin red guide. I sure hope you'll enjoy your staying among us ! François |
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