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palestinian suicide bombers/japanese red army
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: bigsticks-ga List Price: $6.00 |
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03 Aug 2003 03:04 PDT
Expires: 02 Sep 2003 03:04 PDT Question ID: 238406 |
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Re: palestinian suicide bombers/japanese red army
From: tutuzdad-ga on 03 Aug 2003 12:06 PDT |
I don't know how anyone could accurately make this assumption and I certainly don't beleive we'd ever be able to definitively trace the first Palestinian suicide bombing to a 1940's blueprint of Japanese war tactics. Suicide as a means of defense if quite different than suicide as a means of terror, attack or retribution. Even so, the Japanese didn't invent the notion by the way. One of the earliest incidents was recorded in the Holy Bible when Samson sacrified himself by bringing the building down upon his aggressors. Since then many notorious characters, governments and organizations, including the Japanese, have employed this horrifying tactic. It is more likley in my opinion that the Palestinians were probably inspired by the more recent actions of the Hizbullah and the Tamil Tigers of the 70's and 80's who very well might have gotten their original inspiration from the perceived successes of the World War II Kamikaze pilots. Regards; tutuzdad-ga |
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Re: palestinian suicide bombers/japanese red army
From: justaskscott-ga on 03 Aug 2003 12:45 PDT |
Re tutuzdad's comment: I think that bigsticks is looking for information tying Palestinian suicide bombings not to the kamikaze pilots of World War II, but to this group: "Terrorist Group Profiles - Japanese Red Army (JRA)" (Page last updated: 12/13/2002) Dudley Knox Library - Naval Postgraduate School http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/tgp/jra.htm |
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Re: palestinian suicide bombers/japanese red army
From: tutuzdad-ga on 03 Aug 2003 14:16 PDT |
Upon re-reading the question I see you are absolutely right. I stand corrected. Apparently my eye-to-brain coordination is a bit off it's game today. I found references to the JRA being trained "BY" the Palestinians if this is of interest to you. Regards; tutuzdad-ga |
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Re: palestinian suicide bombers/japanese red army
From: fabienne-ga on 07 Aug 2003 22:38 PDT |
Hi maybe this can help you as one of the orientations of your researches. on september 14, 2001 just after that the Japenese Red Army (JRA) announced that it was responsable for the 9/11 attack, french newspaper "Libération" published an article written by Michael Prazan entitled : "Lod : les germes de l'internationale terrorisme" (Lod : the germs of the international terrorism). ( http://www.liberation.com/ny2001/actu/20010914venzc.html ) He says in this article that the international terrorism and kamikaze attacks began on May 30, 1972 (in fact may 29)with the suicide attack of Lod's Airport in Israel (now Ben Gourion Airport). Before this event, no arab group had ever been involved in a suicide attack. This suicide attack (with guns and submachine-guns) in which 26 israelis died was led by three JRA's members. In this operation, JRA was "working" for the PFLP (Popular Front for the liberation of Palestine)of George Habache. Those two groups were allied. Michael Prazan adds that this event had a big echo in the arabic world, "particularly in the palestinans camps of refugees..." and that, the next day, in Libya, President Qaddafi announced that if some japanese could do such a thing, then Arabs people and Palestinians should do the same. The author adds that "in the 1980's, members of the JRA will become instructors of martial arts in the Hizbollah's training camps of south lebanon". About the fact that the international terrorism began with the Lod's attack, see http://www.rand.org/publications/randreview/issues/rr.08.02/thirtyyears.html http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR989/ About the attack against Lod Airport see: http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_lod_1972.php http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/29/newsid_2542000/2542263.stm About the history of the JRA and its links with palestinians and iranians (hizbollah): http://www.ict.org.il/inter_ter/orgdet.cfm?orgid=17 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1013172.stm http://www.securitymanagement.com/library/000248.html Page 17-18 : http://www.wws.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/byteserv.prl/~ota/disk1/1991/9139/913905.PDF About the JRA and fusako Shigenobus arrest (JRAs leader and George Habache ex-mistress) , in November 2000 : http://www.terrorismfiles.org/organisations/japanese_red_army.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1012780.stm Regards Fabienne |
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Re: palestinian suicide bombers/japanese red army
From: politicalguru-ga on 08 Aug 2003 03:40 PDT |
Dear Big Sticks, Fabiene gave you great information. However, in my opinion, the claim on Japanese inspiration is false of several reasons: - The first suicide bombings in Israel and the Palestinian Territories were conducted by religious groups (Hamas and the Islamic Jihad), in 1993. Suicide was justified theologically. Palestinian "secular" organisations began to commit suicide attacks only lately, since the outburst of troubles in October 2000. "Hamas and the PIJ were also inspired and assisted by Hizballah. The PIJ leadership maintained close relationships with Iran and Hizballah from the early 80s. The relationship between Hamas with Hizballah gained momentum after Israel deported a few hundred operatives to Lebanon in 1992. There they established a close liaison with Hizballah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards. Both groups learned suicide techniques in Lebanon." (Source: Schweitzer, Yoram 2000. "Suicide Terrorism: Development & Characteristics" ICT Web Site, <http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=112>) - The first suicide attack (April 1983) was conducted by the Hizbullah - a Shiite militia in Lebanon. Again, it was motivated, or justified, theologically. Those who committed these initial attacks are connected to Iran (although I did not check if the attacks were inspired by Iran), and did not participate in the joint trainings of PLO or PFLP with members of the RAF [German "Red Army Faction"] or JRA in the 1970s. - The JRA attack in 1972, discussed later, was different in its modus operandi, and was not similar conceptually to the later suicide bombers. Yoram Schweitzer of the International Policy Institute for Counter-Terrorism (ICT) calls it "very high-risk terror operations that leave only little chance of survival to their perpetrators", and distinguished between this type of attacks and suicide bombings (Source: Schweitzer, Yoram 2000. "Suicide Terrorism: Development & Characteristics" ICT Web Site, <http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=112>). I have found no source that would support the claim that the Japanese inspired the Palestinian suicide bombings. |
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Re: palestinian suicide bombers/japanese red army
From: politicalguru-ga on 08 Aug 2003 09:30 PDT |
Dear Big Sticks, After writing my previous comment, I had a talk with an expert on terrorism. He corrected me on two important points: - The first suicide bombing attack was in 1978, and was conducted by a Syrian group. - The Palestinian Hamas and Jihad got their inspiration and training, after 400 terrorists were deported to Lebanon in 1992, getting there the best schooling on such matters. Again, no evidence of JRA involvement. |
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