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Subject:
Using Credit Cards over the Internet (1)
Category: Business and Money > eCommerce Asked by: probonopublico-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
03 Aug 2003 06:08 PDT
Expires: 09 Aug 2003 22:13 PDT Question ID: 238423 |
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Re: Using Credit Cards over the Internet (1)
From: respree-ga on 03 Aug 2003 09:42 PDT |
Don't know the history, but it makes sense when you think about it. If a merchant has to process a credit card transaction, they have to get your number somehow. The logical choice would be to just telephone the merchant and give it to them the credit card number over the phone. The problem with that is many merchants do not make it easy for you to call them. You have to dig and dig on their website to get their phone number. In some ways, it is understandable. It costs money to have a customer telephone support center and I would imagine many of them do not have the financial resources. If they can't afford to give you a basic secure server, it stands to reason that they probably can't afford live telephone customer service either. Also, I think many consumers dread calling a phone number that they have to navigate through 'telephone menu hell.' Of course, this is a pre-judgement on their part, but in many cases that's what you get when you call a phone number (sadly). So, the next logical choice to communicate this information would be fax or email. Of course, the ratio of people who have fax machines versus email is probably fairly small, so email seems the likely candidate. For the most part, it is widely understood that email is an unsecure form of communication, so it stands to make sense that merchants would try to lower risk (and give the customer a perceived (or real) sense of security) by splitting a credit card number into two parts to avoid a whole number from being intercepted. Just my 2 cents. =) |
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Re: Using Credit Cards over the Internet (1)
From: probonopublico-ga on 04 Aug 2003 12:16 PDT |
Hi, Respree Many thanks for your 2 cents ... Do you take PayPal? Regards Bryan |
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Re: Using Credit Cards over the Internet (1)
From: respree-ga on 04 Aug 2003 16:04 PDT |
My pleasure. While I do have an online store, and accept credit cards through a secure server, I do not accept PayPal. Not that my store is big, but I've noticed the merchants who do accept PayPal are smaller merchants or individuals, who do not appear to be set up to accept credit cards on their own secure server (probably for cost and administration reasons). For us, the PayPal service would be redundant (and probably confusing), since we accept VISA/MC/AMEX transactions on our site anyway. |
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Re: Using Credit Cards over the Internet (1)
From: pinkfreud-ga on 04 Aug 2003 16:29 PDT |
I wasn't able to find out the history of this practice, but I did find a couple of interesting twists: Here's a method which asks you to split the credit card data into two parts, each to be emailed to a separate address, on different servers: "As an extra security measure we suggest that customers split their credit card details (number and expiry date) into two separate emails and send half in each email to us at the following email addresses which are operated through different servers owned by different internet companies and downloaded by us separately." Shades Stamp Shop http://www.newzeal.com/steve/ordernfo.html This is a clever method that should thwart packet-sniffers: "Using Two Emails and Code to Transmit your Card Number There is a clever, veritably foolproof method of sending your credit card information across the net. It is utterly indecipherable to any program or hacker unless they are permanently sitting undetected on your ports for long periods. As a general rule, use of Zonelabs firewall makes this extremely difficult as your PC is then virtually invisible on the network. The technique is based on the observation that hackers and credit card criminals use programs called packet sniffers which recognise strings of digits, not words, to harvest credit card details from the Internet. Other programs (which will remain unnamed here!) are alerted by distinctive words and phrases, which we judiciously refrain from using in our email transmissions. It works this way. The credit card number is split into two equal sections of eight digits each, and is written using words, not digits, and placed at the end of text verse such as a nursery rhyme. By sending the information in two separate emails, two packets of digital data are sent along completely different routes, arriving at the same destination, but foiling any attempt in transit to capture the complete number. Let's encode the following card number (fictitious) 4325 0754 4365 0866 expires 04/02 EMAIL #1 Mary had a little lamb four three two five, Its fleece was white as snow, And everywhere that Mary went zero seven five four, The lamb was sure to go. EMAIL #2 Little Miss Muffet sat on her tuffet four three six five, Eating her curds and whey, Along came a spider zero eight six six, And sat down beside her, Zero four zero two. As long as the numbers are placed at the end of the line and you use two separate emails, it is clear that this method offers excellent protection from hackers. You should know that once your order is processed and paid for, we keep a hardcopy of your order in archive but all details of your valid credit card number on our computer are deleted. Note: Always remember to include the expiry date of the card, as this is vital information for validating the transaction. We are indebted to Pat Currie of Madison, WI for suggesting this excellent idea!" Printed Electronics http://www.printedelectronics.com/buying/buying_pay.html |
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Re: Using Credit Cards over the Internet (1)
From: kemlo-ga on 04 Aug 2003 17:41 PDT |
If you do send your card number this way dont forget to ask the recipient to erase the number from the e-mail before they send a reply. All to often people will leave your original message attached to their reply. |
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Re: Using Credit Cards over the Internet (1)
From: sycophant-ga on 05 Aug 2003 00:17 PDT |
The security of this method is far from foolproof really, and doesn't seem that likely to be much of an increase in security as opposed to sending all the information in one email. The exception to that was the case where the emails are sent to different addresses on different servers. Generally speaking, if someone had gained enough privilege (either liegitimate or otherwise) to access one email from the merchant's account, it is almost no more trouble to capture many. That said, more of a concern is who has your access to your credit card details once it is received. And how it is stored. Most high-profile credit card thefts have been from a stored credit card database, rather than through intercepting their transmission. Regards Sycophant-ga |
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