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Subject: Finding Water
Category: Science > Technology
Asked by: damageisle-ga
List Price: $12.50
Posted: 03 Aug 2003 14:25 PDT
Expires: 02 Sep 2003 14:25 PDT
Question ID: 238572
I am in the process of drilling a well on my property in upstate New
York.  I would like to know the newest technologies in finding an
excellent water supply on my property.

Request for Question Clarification by tlspiegel-ga on 03 Aug 2003 17:19 PDT
damageisle,
 
I found some 'general' information for you, not specific to New York. 
Perhaps some of the details provided will be of help.

Deciding Where to Drill 
http://www.lifewater.ca/Section_2.htm

http://www.lifewater.ca/Appendix_D.htm

Best regards,

tlspiegel

Clarification of Question by damageisle-ga on 03 Aug 2003 21:58 PDT
I'm actually looking for a method to find the water under the ground,
using something like sonar or something to test if it's there.  I know
there are underground water sources on my property, I just have to
determine where they are and how deep they are.  I've tried using a
dowser (sp?), but this has been unsuccessful.

Request for Question Clarification by tlspiegel-ga on 03 Aug 2003 22:38 PDT
Hi damageisle,

Yes, you spelled dowser correctly.  Also referred to as a 'water
witch'.  Theory has been around for a gazillion years and sometimes
with success.

An interesting thing happened after my parents sold our home to Willie
Stargell, in Pittsburgh, PA.

We'd built and lived in the house many years not having a clue that
the property was built over a nice water source.  Somehow or other,
The Stargell's starting digging for something and low and behold - A
fountain of water sprung up.

Not sure what they ended up doing with their water supply source, but
it sure surprised them!  :)

Hopefully, another researcher will be able to find out the answer for
you.  I wish you good luck!


Regards,

tlspiegel
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Subject: Re: Finding Water
Answered By: denco-ga on 06 Aug 2003 10:04 PDT
 
Howdy damageisle,

The current "state of the art" for aquifer (well) mapping is
electrokinetics (sometimes called electroseismics) or EKS.

One of the leaders in this field is the UK based GroundFlow Ltd.
http://www.groundflow.com/frames/mainframe.htm

"The company was set up in 1994 and is dedicated to being the
leader in electrokinetics (sometimes called electroseismics),
providing reliable and effective equipment and services. These
systems use a sound wave to investigate subsurface rocks, and
electrical responses give direct details of water or hydrocarbons
within them."

Their web page titled "EKS Aquifer Mapping & Hydrology Surveying"
speaks to the process used and shows a sample map.
http://www.groundflow.com/frames/mainframeeks.htm

"The equipment collects the electrical signals generated by the
passage of seismic waves traveling through water-saturated rocks"

GroundFlow, Ltd. has some articles in Word 97 and PDF format you
can download at their page titled "SEEING BENEATH THE GROUND."
http://www.groundflow.com/frames/dnloadfrm.htm

This includes an article in Word 97 format titled: "Electrokinetic
Techniques for Measurement of Rock Permeability" by J W A Millar
and R H Clarke.

If you do not have Word, you can download a free Word 97 viewer
from the Microsoft website.
http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/wd97vwr32.aspx

If you do not have the free Adobe Acrobat Reader you can download
it from the Adobe website.
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

There is the American company NorthWest Aquifer Surveying, Inc.
(NWAS) that uses GroundFlow's technology.
http://www.findwellwater.com/

"We use ELECTRO-SEISMIC technology developed by GroundFlow to
provide solutions for your well locating and ground water needs!"
...
"NorthWest Aquifer Surveying Inc. WILL
- Help you find the right place to drill your well. 
- Accurately estimate how deep you should drill your well. 
- Help you avoid water with high salinity (Quality). 
- ESTIMATE the quantity of water your well is likely to yield."

Although they are located in the state of Washington, they do
travel outside that area.  They cover pricing, etc. at this
page on their website.
http://www.findwellwater.com/page6/NWAS6.html

"Survey (soundings per location for acquisition, processing and report)
Four 100m soundings on the same property ... $ 699.00   
Four 300+m soundings on the same property ... $ 899.00   
A minimum of four soundings is required to schedule a survey.
Additional shallow soundings (each) ... $ 170.00 
Additional deep soundings (each) ... $ 220.00 

The above prices reflect travel expenses for the Northwest.
Actual travel expenses may be added to surveys that require
travel outside the Northwest Aquifer Surveying current
franchise locations."

All of their "current franchise locations" appear to be in
the northwest United States.  They can be contacted via their
toll free number at 866-740-6446.

As for dowsing, you might want to read the following article
at the James (The Great Randi) Randi Educational Foundation
(JREF) website.
http://www.randi.org/library/dowsing/
"The Matter of Dowsing from Swift, Vol. 2, No. 3/4 January,
1999"

There is a $1,000,000 (one milion dollar) prize that awaits
anyone that can show dowsing works and to date no one has yet
to claim the prize, although many have tried.
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

"At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who
can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any
paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event."

If you need any clarification, feel free to ask.


Search strategy:

Google search on keywords: "well locating"
://www.google.com/search?&q=%22well+locating%22

Looking Forward, denco-ga
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Subject: Re: Finding Water
From: neilzero-ga on 04 Aug 2003 10:02 PDT
 
A semi secret USA government project named HAARP is located about 200
miles North of Fairbanks, Alaska. One of the purposes is to remotely
locate under ground caverns, tunnels etc. The process is called
tomograpy sp   Likely someone is claiming to use this technology to
find under ground water. Sorry I have no more details.   Neil

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