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Subject: audit fees
Category: Business and Money > Accounting
Asked by: mpollak-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 09 Jun 2002 11:18 PDT
Expires: 10 Jun 2002 11:01 PDT
Question ID: 23989
I want to know the audit fees which have been spend by public listed
companies (in US, Austria and Germany) for their anually requested audit.
Is there a statistic of such fees by company published?
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There is no answer at this time.

The following answer was rejected by the asker (they received a refund for the question).
Subject: Re: audit fees
Answered By: davidsar-ga on 09 Jun 2002 13:46 PDT
 
I'm back, this time with an answer.  

There is very limited information of the type you are seeking. 
Companies in the U.S. recently began reporting audit fees to the SEC
as detailed in this article from April 3, 2002:

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/020403/5/610l.html

[I've only excerpted the company list here...you should look at the
full article itself]

Above Average 


Company: Johnson & Johnson 

Audit Fees (in millions): $9.0 

All Other Fees** (in millions): $57.8 

Ratio Of All Other Fees To Audit Fees: 6.4 

Auditor: PWC 

Company: SBC Communications 

Audit Fees (in millions): 3.0 

All Other Fees** (in millions): 18.7 

Ratio Of All Other Fees To Audit Fees: 6.2 

Auditor: E&Y 

Company: Walt Disney 

Audit Fees (in millions): 8.7 

All Other Fees** (in millions): 43.0 

Ratio Of All Other Fees To Audit Fees: 5.0 

Auditor: PWC 

Company: J.P. Morgan Chase 

Audit Fees (in millions): 18.4 

All Other Fees** (in millions): 85.9 

Ratio Of All Other Fees To Audit Fees: 4.7 

Auditor: PWC 

Company: Home Depot 

Audit Fees (in millions): 1.2 

All Other Fees** (in millions): 5.0 

Ratio Of All Other Fees To Audit Fees: 4.3 

Auditor: KPMG 

Median for the pool of 21 

Ratio Of All Other Fees To Audit Fees: 3.1 

* From the pool of 21 companies that have filed proxy statements so
far this year

** Includes fees for financial-information-system design 

Source: company proxy statements 

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As I noted in my comment to this question, there is also comprehensive
information on UK companies and their audit fees at
http://www.financialdirector.co.uk/News/1127156

To the extent that any German or Austrian companies report to the SEC
or to UK authorities, then these are potential sources of information
for you on audit fees.  However, there does not seem to be any
requirement in Germany or Austria to make such information public (I'm
about 90% sure of this, but not totally, as language is a barrier --
as with all Google Answers, remember that we're not necessarily
professionals in the field of finance, or anything else for that
matter, so take all information with the appropriate grains of salt).

Hope this helps.
Reason this answer was rejected by mpollak-ga:
As already noted in the answer (which was first send as a comment)
there is little information available to this topic. That is the
reason why I am searching via a paid service. However the answer has
not been answered do to the fact that it did not contain any hint were
to find a statistic about audit fees in the US. Germany and Austria
has basically not been touched. The information for UK was best but
the answer did not cover UK companies.

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Subject: Re: audit fees
From: davidsar-ga on 09 Jun 2002 12:26 PDT
 
I didn't get enough detailed information to warrant an answer, but
here's what I know as a comment:

The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission does require audit fees to
be reported, as well as any other non-audit fees paid to the same
company.  As for European requirements...I'm not sure.  Here are some
references for more information:

http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/research/reports/2001/nelson.html

Auditor Conflicts and Earnings Quality
Research By

Karen Nelson
Assistant Professor of Accounting
Stanford Graduate School of Business 

Richard M. Frankel
Assistant Professor of Accounting, Economics and Finance
MIT Sloan School of Management

Marilyn F. Johnson
Associate Professor of Accounting and Information systems
Eli Broad College of Business
Michigan State University

In recent years, a dramatic increase in the revenues big accounting
firms derive from management consulting services has raised a red flag
about auditor objectivity. The Wall Street Journal reported in April,
for example, that just last year Sprint paid Ernst & Young $2.5
million for auditing but $63.8 million for other work, including $12
million for the deployment of a financial-information system. General
Electric paid KPMG $24 million for auditing but more than three times
that for other services. This growing trend triggered the Securities
and Exchange Commission to seriously question whether auditors have a
conflict of interest that compromises the quality of an audit. Left
unchecked, such conflicts could undermine the credibility of earnings
statements upon which stock market activity hinges. Until now, the
audit industry has disputed these claims, in part because there has
been no evidence to suggest auditors have lost their objectivity.

But in a ground-breaking study analyzing the effects of accounting
firms' consulting business on the independence of their auditors,
Stanford Graduate School of Business faculty member Karen Nelson and
her colleagues provide the first hard evidence showing that the
provision of non-audit services impairs an auditor's independence and
dangerously stretches the bounds of accepted accounting practice. "Our
motivation for doing the paper comes out of the SEC's policy agenda of
trying to crack down on so-called earnings management," says Nelson,
who is assistant professor of accounting at the Business School. "We
were interested in whether public accountants really are performing
their role as independent gatekeepers, or has it become a game of
winks and nods between corporate management and the auditors because
the auditors don't want to lose these very lucrative consulting
contracts."

************
http://www.financialdirector.co.uk/News/1127156

HSBC had the biggest audit fee in the FTSE-100 for the second year
running, according to the fifth annual survey by Accountancy Age's
sister publication Financial Director magazine.
The bank's fees to KPMG leapt from £12.3m to £17.2m. Significantly,
according to the 2002 survey, Shell T&T has published its audit fee
for the first time in three years, revealing that it paid £11.3m to
KPMG and PwC.
The average audit fee for a FTSE-100 company is now £2.21m, up 17%
from £1.89m in the previous year's survey. Several factors explain
this but the most important is the recent spate of mergers. The coming
together of groups such as Royal Bank of Scotland/NatWest,
Barclays/Woolwich and BP/Arco, alongside the creation of
GlaxoSmithKline, BHP Billiton and HBOS, have created much large
corporations with audit fees to match.

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www.dykema.com/finance/news/pubfin0201.pdf
NEW SEC RULES ON PROXY STATEMENT
DISCLOSURE OF AUDIT FEES

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