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Subject:
Identify and locate a painting presumably by Jan Brueghel the Elder
Category: Arts and Entertainment Asked by: eloquence-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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07 Aug 2003 18:02 PDT
Expires: 06 Sep 2003 18:02 PDT Question ID: 241232 |
I am trying to obtain a high resolution color copy of the following painting: http://scireview.de/pics/jan.jpg The only reference I have is: Allegorie auf Krieg und Inquisition. ("Allegory on War and Inquisition") Painting by Jan Brueghel the Elder and Hendrik van Balem, first quarter of the 17th century The above black and white reproduction is from Neville Williams et al. (Ed.): Meilensteine der Geschichte, Berlin 1971, Bd. II, p. 162. To earn the bounty for this question, just answer the following questions: 1) Is the above reference correct and if not, what painting is it? 2) Where can I obtain a high resolution color reproduction? Books, museum catalogs, website, CD-ROMs are all acceptable references. High resolution means at least the resolution of the black and white copy above. |
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Re: Identify and locate a painting presumably by Jan Brueghel the Elder
From: fp-ga on 08 Aug 2003 01:05 PDT |
The painting you are looking for http://scireview.de/pics/jan.jpg and the following (photo taken in 1954) http://www.bildindex.de/fotos/mi/091/78/b/MI09178d18b.jpg seem to be identical. The Lindenau-Museum in Altenburg has its own website: http://www.lindenau-museum.de/ Perhaps they can help. Or ask "Foto Marburg" http://www.bildindex.de/ Apparently the name is spelt "van Bale n " and not "van Bale m ". Search strategy: http://www.bildindex.de/ Click on "Künstler", search "balen", click on "balen, hendrick", "tafelmalerei" and "altenburg" When moving the mouse on to the picture the title is given as "Allegorie auf Krieg und Feuer" ("...war and fire"). On bildindex.de you can easily magnify the painting. |
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Re: Identify and locate a painting presumably by Jan Brueghel the Elder
From: fp-ga on 08 Aug 2003 01:36 PDT |
I am rewriting your link and do hope it will be clickable: http://scireview.de/pics/jan.jpg |
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Re: Identify and locate a painting presumably by Jan Brueghel the Elder
From: fp-ga on 09 Aug 2003 01:17 PDT |
A monograph on van Balen by Werche apparently should have been published in 2000. It may interest you that this "monograph by Bettina Werche of Hendrik van Balen was not published in 2000 (143) but will be published at the end of 2003 in the "Pictura Nova" series published by Brepols (Turnhout)". http://www.kunstform.historicum.net/2003/07/3355.html http://www.sehepunkte.historicum.net/2003/07/3355.html Brepols catalogue: http://www.brepols.net/catalogue/index.jsp?mpk=20295,20302 |
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Re: Identify and locate a painting presumably by Jan Brueghel the Elder
From: eloquence-ga on 09 Aug 2003 03:19 PDT |
Thanks for all your help, fp. I'll call the museum on Monday and inquire if they have the picture and if I can order a repro from them. If they do, I'll let you claim the money (I don't know how that works, but I presume you have to officially put in an answer text). The bildindex.de site is great -- didn't know that one. (I'm German, BTW -- in case you are, too.) |
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Re: Identify and locate a painting presumably by Jan Brueghel the Elder
From: brett-ga on 10 Aug 2003 21:37 PDT |
If the caption to the image shown by fp-ga is correct, then I believe that this artist must be Jan Bruegel the Younger, as it was the latter who was born in 1568. Jan Bruegel the Elder - who, by the way changed the spelling of his surname from Brueghel in about 1559 - was born between 1525 and 1530, and died in 1569. He is unlikely, therefore, to have been a contemporary of Hendrik van Balen (1575-1632). This information has been extracted from "Bruegel: the Complete Paintings" by Tiziana Frati, publ. Granada 1980. This contains details of a total of some 76 paintings by Jan Bruegel the Elder, and does not include "Allegorie auf Krieg und Inquisition". Regards and best wishes, Brett |
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