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Subject: Fulltime ESL programs in Northern California (Bay Area, within 90 minutes of SF
Category: Reference, Education and News > Education
Asked by: educationbryan-ga
List Price: $101.00
Posted: 10 Aug 2003 22:02 PDT
Expires: 09 Sep 2003 22:02 PDT
Question ID: 242381
Looking for a listing, description and cost of all the ESL (English as
a Second Language) programs in Northern California (Bay Area, within
90 minutes of San Francisco) for a foreign post college intermediate
English Speaker to perfect his English over 9-12 months full time (8am
to 3pm or so) before entering graduate school.

What would be the best value in the Northern California Area?  My
assumption is, that Sacramento, Oakland, Santa Cruz would be a better
value than San Francisco for example.

Information looked for is the following:
-Name of Institution (City Colleges, Universities, private schools,
etc.)
-URL
-Description of school
-Description of ESL department and ESL program
-Tuition for out of country student(total and / unit)
-Financial Aid available for foreign students?  
-Housing cost?  (On campus or safe / clean studio in neighborhood)
-Third party rating of the institution (Barron's or sthg. like that)
-When does the schoolyear / program start?

After researching it, please give your recommendation, as to which
school offers the best value for a foreign exchange student to learn
the most english for the least amount of money in a safe environment.

Request for Question Clarification by clouseau-ga on 11 Aug 2003 08:12 PDT
Hello educationbryan,

I didn't want you to think that your question was going unnoticed.

I did a good amount of preliminary research on this last night, and as
a resident of Northern California for 30 years have a good handle on
the area. However, I was unable to find some of your required
information and hesitated to answer. For example:

Some tuitions are just not listed online and must be requested from
the individual schools.

I could not find any independent ratings of schools or ESL programs
online.

If you desire all the information I CAN find on Northern California
ESL programs, and recommendations on areas, housing and the like, I
would be happy to continue to research and answer your question. But I
did want you to know that some of what you desire to know will not be
found. And I would focus on the better choices in the Bay Area and
provide my reasons behind choosing as I would.

If you do require each line item per school, then perhaps another
researcher will tackle your question.

Just post a clarification and I will be notified on your thoughts on
this.

Regards,

-=clouseau=-

PS. Would be helpful to know if the student is male or female, age,
country of origin, native language and any other details that might be
helpful in uncovering more information of value for you.

Clarification of Question by educationbryan-ga on 11 Aug 2003 12:11 PDT
Clouseau,

please do go ahead and instead of tuition information provide me with
the email address for the respective admissions department.

The objective is to identify the top 5 - 10 ESL program choices for
this particular mid twenties female student from Korea.  Not to list
all ESL programs in the bay area.  Your recommendation and thought
process as to why the choices you recommend are the best, would be of
interest.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Fulltime ESL programs in Northern California (Bay Area, within 90 minutes of SF
Answered By: clouseau-ga on 11 Aug 2003 14:49 PDT
 
Hello educationbryan,

Thank you for your question and your clarification.

As a long time resident of the Bay Area and now Sacramento, I feel I
have insight into the areas that you have shown interest. I think it
goes without saying that no area is crime free any longer in our
society, but there are areas that are safer and perhaps more enjoyable
for someone to study as a foreign student. Parts of the Bay Area have
the highest Cost of Living of almost anywhere in this country. And
while I am fond of San Francisco, it is higher crime, has a less
satisfying climate and apartment rentals can produce sticker shock.
Consequently, I shall provide you with some links for quality ESL
schooling there, but will try to steer you to other areas.

I think Santa Cruz is stretching the 90 minute requirement from San
Francisco. Traffic through Silicon Valley has become dramatic in the
last decade and Santa Cruz could well exceed that driving time at many
hours of the day. I routinely make the 96 mile journey from Sacramento
to San Francisco in 1:15 in all but rush hour traffic times.

Berkeley/Oakland is also a higher crime, higher rent area than many
others. While I will offer a selection in these areas, my initial
reaction is, if it were me, I would much prefer to be in Marin County,
Napa, Sonoma, Contra Costa or the Sacramento area, in that order. The
quality of life and climate is significantly better.

Since this seems to be a concern, you may be interested in the
following statistics:
http://www.mccormacks.com/pdf/alameda/crime.pdf

Crime Statistics by City

City            Population      Rate      Homicides
Alameda          74,600          41              2
Albany           16,750          50              0
Berkeley        104,600          91              1
Dublin           33,500          22              1
Emeryville        7,300         185              3
Fremont         208,600          29              0
Hayward         144,300          38             10
Livermore        76,700          28              0
Newark           43,650          45              0
Oakland         408,800          68             84
Piedmont         11,150          26              0
Pleasanton       66,200          26              0
San Leandro      81,300          55              1
Union City       70,200          37              3
County Total  1,486,600          51            108

Crime in Other Northern California Cities

City            Population      Rate       Homicides
Concord         123,900          45             0
Danville         43,000          14             0
Fairfield       100,200          46             3
Mountain View    71,600          34             1
Palo Alto        60,500          31             2
Richmond        101,100          72            18
Sacramento      426,000          73            40
San Francisco   793,600          37            62
San Jose        918,000          27            22
San Ramon        46,250          24             0
Stockton        253,800          78            30
Sunnyvale       132,800          20             0
Vacaville        92,300          26             0
Vallejo         118,600          61             4
Walnut Creek     65,900          39             0

Source: California Crime Index from State Dept. of Justice, 2001 data,
with population estimates from Calif.
Dept. of Finance, Jan. 1, 2002. Rate is all reported willful homicide,
forcible rape, aggravated assault, burglary,
motor vehicle theft, larceny-theft and arson per 1,000 residents.
Homicides include murders and non-negligent
manslaughter.



Coldwell Banker, the Real Estate Company, offers an interesting link
on their pages. Here you can select a city for a report of climate,
crime and other pertinent data:
http://www.californiamoves.com/homefair/default.asp?VAR_link=CityReport

For example, selecting Sacramento will show the following:

"Sacramento, California  

Sacramento serves as both the seat of Sacramento County and the state
capital. Sacramento has excellent cultural arts and schools and is
only 90 minutes from San Francisco, Lake Tahoe and Reno.
 

City Population  407,018  
County/Province Population  1,223,499  
Metro Population  1,628,197  
Median Household Income  $37,049  
Unemployment Rate  6.5%  
Crime Index*  200  
*(percent of the national average. For more information on the
homefair.com crime index, see the Relocation Crime Lab on our web
site)

 
Winter Temperature Range  38/60  
Spring Temperature Range  43/80  
Summer Temperature Range  55/93  
Fall Temperature Range  43/87  
Annual Precipitation  17.52"  
Annual Snowfall  0.0"  

 
Cost of Living Index (U.S. average = 100)  123.63  
3-Bedroom House Price (U.S. $)  $232,900  
2-Bedroom Apartment Rent (U.S. $)  $685  
Property Tax Rate  1.03%  
Sales Tax (state and local)  7.5%  


Student/Teacher Ratio  26.0/1  
Expenditures Per Pupil  $5,212/1  
Hospitals  10  
Physicians (county)  2,559  

Colleges:

California State University
Los Rios Community College District
National University
University of California, Davis
University of California Medical Center..."

You can run this for most California Cities.
 


That being said, let's take a look at some of the possibilities. Do
refer to the links below for more complete information:


San Francisco
___________________________________________________

As I mentioned, if this were my decision, I would avoid San Francisco
and Oakland for a number of reasons. Consequently, I shall provide you
with links so that you may inquire of some of these schools if you are
not in agreement with my assessment of the Bay Area. Also see the
"Additional Links" section below.

___________________________________________________

City College ESL Department
Mission Campus - Hilda Ayala, Coordinator
http://www.ccsf.edu/Departments/ESL/mis.html

phone number: 550-4414 
fax number: 550-4399 

Mission Campus Home Page 

Mission Campus is one of the ten principal locations of City College
of San Francisco. Students may enroll directly at the CCSF Mission
Campus, and students enrolled at any other CCSF campus may take
classes at the Mission Campus.

The CCSF Mission Campus offers:    a full English as a Second Language
(ESL) Program, including credit and non-credit classes in reading,
writing, listening, and pronunciation.
___________________________________________________


American Academy of English
http://www.aaesl.com/

Studying English can be the most important step in your education or
career. At the American Academy of English, we have been helping
students make the right choice since 1982. To help you make your
choice, we offer the latest in modern programs and facilities. We also
offer professional, university-trained staff.

Our graduating students successfully transfer to major universities
and colleges throughout the United States. And we have programs for
all levels from beginning to advanced, as well as TOEFL preparation.
We are the most complete English language school in the San Francisco
Area.

The Academy Features:

Open Enrollment - Enroll at Anytime! 
TOEFL and TOEIC Preparation 
Institutional TOEFL Test Every Quarter 
Modern Facilities 
Computer Lab with Internet/E-mail Access 
Professional Instructors with ESL Experience and Degrees 
Field Trips to Local Areas and Points of Interest 
All Levels of ESL Instruction 
Accommodations with Host Families or Residence Clubs 
Counseling and Guidance for College Admission 
Evening Classes 
Comfortable Audio/Video Equipped Classes 
Courses with a Clear Curriculum Framework 


Stimulating Environment

San Francisco, voted Number 1 place to visit in the United States,
offers everything that any cosmopolitan center can offer. The best in
restaurants from every nation, historic landmarks, outstanding
universities, state parks, gorgeous beaches and redwood forests. The
Academy is located in the center of San Francisco, which is on the tip
of a peninsula. The climate remains relatively cool and comfortable
with day temperatures between 55 and 60 degrees. Evenings cool off to
between 45 and 50 degrees. The Academy is located in San Francisco's
Civic Center, a block away from City Hall, half a block from the
Federal Building and minutes away from the new San Francisco Public
Library.

Professional Staff

Members of our faculty and staff are college and university trained
professionals. The entire faculty are native speakers of English.

Each teacher has a college degree. Master teachers have completed
graduate degrees in ESL or linguistics. Most faculty have lived,
taught, and traveled extensively abroad.
 

Modern Programs and Facilities

The Academy maintains the latest in audio, video, and computerized
programs to make your learning of English easier. Our tape library
includes audiotapes to improve your listening skills, TOEFL test
taking skills, and pronunciation skills. Our video library has tapes
designed to help you pass the TOEFL and improve pronunciation. Our
computer programs will do everything from diagnose your accent, to
instruct you on English grammar. We also have high-speed Internet
access to get you on the Web fast so you can surf the Web and e-mail
your friends back home
 
___________________________________________________




North Bay
___________________________________________________

University of Northern California - Petaluma
http://www.uncm.edu/index.htm

English as a Second Language (ESL) 
http://www.uncm.edu/Academics/ESL/ESLmain.htm

"One distinguishing aspect of English as a Second Language at UNC is
the tailoring of the program to meet different needs and purposes. ESL
may be studied as intensive short courses or more comprehensive
12-week, 24-week or 36-week courses. Students, professionals and
corporate employers interested in short courses, vacation study
courses, specialized corporate training programs or accent
modification training may contact the Chair of the School of Languages
at (707) 765-6400.

Students of all ages, of all levels of English knowledge and with many
different purposes are welcome to study ESL at the University of
Northern California. Some students will want to continue studying
other courses at UNC or at another university. Some need to improve
their English skills for career purposes, and for others, the purpose
may simply be to enjoy knowing and using English more effectively...

...Beginning, intermediate and advanced intensive ESL courses (ESL001,
ESL002 and ESL003, respectively) each include 20 hours per week of
intensive English study. Placement of students into specific ESL
courses is determined by ESL placement test scores. Classes are small
to allow for appropriate intensity of instruction and individual
attention for each student.

No course credit is given for the intensive ESL courses. Students who
pass any intensive ESL course at UNC (described below) will receive an
appropriate UNC Certificate of competence, and a record of each
student's successful completion of each ESL course will be made on his
or her UNC transcript.

ESL students are required to pass tests of proficiency in oral and
written expression as well as reading and listening comprehension in
order to progress from one intensive ESL course to another. Prior to
enrollment in degree programs within the University, nonnative
speakers of English must receive a score of at least 500 on the TOEFL,
or a passing grade for ESL003 (Advanced Intensive English as a Second
Language) and also meet all other admissions requirements..."


...Nonnative speakers of English not intending to enroll in degree
programs at UNC are welcome to enroll in ESL courses. Such students
are not required to submit SAT or GRE test scores, but must submit an
application to the University."


ESL COURSES DESCRIPTION
http://www.uncm.edu/Academics/ESL/ESL%20courses.htm

"ESL 001 Beginning Intensive English as a Second Language

Practical intensive training in English for nonnative speakers of
English entering at a level at or below the intermediate-low level of
competency in the speaking, reading, writing, and listening
comprehension of English. Each of two five-week sessions of intensive
instruction is followed by one week of special ESL activities and
private instruction. Students successfully completing this course will
receive a UNC certificate of beginning-level competence in English.

ESL 002 Intermediate Intensive English as a Second Language

Practical intensive training in English for nonnative speakers of
English entering at a level at or above the intermediate high level of
competency in the speaking, reading, writing, and listening
comprehension of English. Each of two five-week sessions of intensive
instruction is followed by one week of special ESL activities and
private instruction. Students successfully completing this course will
receive a UNC certificate of intermediate-level competence in English.
Prerequisite: ESL 001 or ESL placement test and approval of the
instructor

ESL 003 Advanced Intensive English as a Second Language

Practical intensive training in English for nonnative speakers of
English entering at a level at or above the advanced plus level of
competency in the speaking, reading, writing, and listening
comprehension of English. Each of two five-week sessions of intensive
instruction is followed by one week of special ESL activities and
private instruction. Students successfully completing this course will
receive a UNC certificate of advanced-level competence in English.
Prerequisite: ESL 002 or ESL placement test and approval of the
instructor

ESL 010-W Advanced ESL Grammar and Composition 

Advanced practice in the reading and writing of English for nonnative
speakers of English. An emphasis is placed on the expansion and
application of English skills for academic and professional purposes.

ESL 020 Advanced ESL Conversation 

Advanced practice in English listening and speaking skills for
nonnative speakers of English. An emphasis is placed on enhancing
students' confidence in interpersonal communication in English, with a
focus on the expansion of students' knowledge of vocabulary and idioms
of American English, on increased conversational fluency, and on
nonverbal and cultural skills that will enhance students' use of
English.

ESL 030 Accent Modification Workshop 

Individualized analysis, training and practice of spoken English with
a focus on increasing the functional English speech intelligibility of
advanced nonnative speakers of English."

About UNC
http://www.uncm.edu/AboutUs/About%20Us.htm

"The University of Northern California (UNC) is a young private
university welcoming students from around the world. UNC students
enjoy small classes with individual attention from professors
dedicated to quality teaching. UNC's faculty members are committed to
helping students to develop a solid academic foundation with a
practical focus. Interdisciplinary studies are encouraged, and all of
UNC's academic programs emphasize the importance of effective
communication for success in the 21st century.

UNC aspires to become a premiere engineering and technological
university with substantial programs in the liberal arts and sciences.
Its special focus is on programs in biological technology including
the B.S. degree in Optical & Photonic Engineering, M.S. in Systems
Engineering (emphasis: embedded software), and the B.E., M.S., & Ph.D.
degrees in Biomedical Engineering. UNC also offers bachelor's degrees
in Languages and B.A. and M.A. in Applied Linguistics (M.A. in TESOL),
as well as master’s degree in Business Administration (MBA). UNC will
grow to include complete Colleges of Engineering, Business
Administration, and Liberal Arts and Sciences..."

Office of Admissions

Phone: 1-707-765-6400
Fax: 1-707-769-8600
E-mail: admits@uncm.edu

http://www.uncm.edu/Admissions/Admissions.htm

Financial Support
http://www.uncm.edu/Admissions/FinacialSupport.htm

Petaluma, California 
http://www.californiamoves.com/homefair/default.asp?VAR_link=CityReport

Petaluma, 39 miles north of San Francisco in California's Sonoma
County, is the site of historic Vallejo's Olde Adobe Ranch and well
preserved 1880's commercial business district. Petaluma's beautiful
climate, excellent schools and quality of life makes it an ideal
bedroom community for the San Francisco Bay area...

...City Population  54,548  
County/Province Population  458,614  
Metro Population  54,548  
Median Household Income  $61,679  
Unemployment Rate  4.0%  
Crime Index*  40...

...Winter Temperature Range  37/62  
Spring Temperature Range  42/73  
Summer Temperature Range  50/83  
Fall Temperature Range  42/82  
Annual Precipitation  24.60"  
Annual Snowfall  0.0"... 
 
...Cost of Living Index (U.S. average = 100)  183.30  
3-Bedroom House Price (U.S. $)  $478,000  
2-Bedroom Apartment Rent (U.S. $)  $800  
Property Tax Rate  1.07%  
Sales Tax (state and local)  7.25%..."

It is a lovely place to study, in my opinion.

___________________________________________________
 
Sonoma State University
http://www.sonoma.edu/exed/ssali/default.html
 
The Program 

Sonoma State American Language Institute (SSALI), located in scenic
Northern California on the campus of Sonoma State University, is an
ideal place for those desiring stimulating classes taught in a safe,
comfortable environment. Since 1979, SSALI has been providing
intensive instruction to students, professionals and others who need
to learn English quickly to meet academic, job-related and social
needs.


The Environment

At Sonoma State University students enjoy a refreshing blend of city
conveniences and country comforts. The campus covers 220 park-like
acres surrounded by farmland and foothills. It is located in the
modern, friendly community of Rohnert Park (pop. 40,000). Nearby is
Santa Rosa, the cultural and financial center of the region. The
excitement of San Francisco is only an hour to the south. The
spectacular coast, world-famous Wine Country, impressive redwood
forests, parks and golf courses are only minutes from campus. The area
enjoys a mild Mediterranean type climate. Daytime temperatures range
from 27°C in summer to 12°C in winter.

Curriculum

The academic program consists of a professionally designed curriculum
for students who are high beginners to advanced. All students receive
instruction in grammar, composition, oral communication, reading,
vocabulary, and study skills. Faculty are talented, dedicated
professionals, trained and experienced in ESL methodology.
Interactive, communicative and task-based learning strategies are
utilized. Class size is 12-15, ensuring maximum individual attention.
Students can pursue independent study in reading, listening and
computer labs. Special elective classes include: TOEFL preparation,
Introduction to Computers, University library/research, American
Culture, English for Business, English through video, Idioms & Slang.

Student Progress 

A thorough program of testing ensures appropriate placement in English
language classes. Progress can be rapid depending upon individual
aptitude, study habits and motivation. A student entering as a
beginner can expect to study four semesters before reaching the level
of proficiency necessary for successful university study.

 
Visa Information 

This school is authorized under Federal law to enroll nonimmigrant
alien students. When the application process is complete, you will be
sent the appropriate documentation to apply for a student visa (F-1)
at a U.S. consulate or embassy. Visitors in the country on B-2 visas
are permitted a limited amount of coursework. Students wanting to
study for full-time should obtain an F-1 visa or ask for a B-2
"Prospective Student" visa if time is short.

Special Features

Attendance and graduation certificates 
College and university admissions assistance 
TOEFL requirement for admission to SSU waived for successful SSALI
graduates

Conversation partner program with an American student or community
volunteer
TOEFL offered at the start of each session 
Opportunities to take university courses for degree credit 
Personal counseling to help students with academic problems or
cultural adjustments
University I.D. card for use of campus facilities: library, media
resources, computer labs, athletic equipment, swimming pool, tennis
courts, etc.

Activities 

Each semester students enjoy a number of extra-curricular activities.
There are trips to San Francisco or Alcatraz, to the state capital in
Sacramento, or to amusement parks such as Marine World or Great
America. There may be excursions to art and science museums, to local
beaches or distant ski resorts. Students can attend plays, concerts
and special sports events. There are parties and picnics, visits with
American families, and special holiday celebrations. Students are
encouraged to participate in a variety of activities, to communicate
in English outside the classroom, and to experience American culture
firsthand.

About SSU 

Sonoma State, a fully accredited university, is a member of the
California State University system. Enrollment is about 7,500
students, representing all 50 states and over 30 foreign countries.
Sonoma State University offers traditional majors in the arts and
humanities, the natural sciences, and the social sciences, as well as
several outstanding professional programs. In all, you have a choice
of 38 Bachelor's degrees, 13 Master's degrees, and excellent
undergraduate pre-medical and pre-engineering programs (see lists
below).

Health Insurance & Housing 

Health Insurance 

Medical care in the U.S. is very expensive! Foreign students are
required to show proof of full coverage health insurance to cover
major medical expenses. SSALI requires that you purchase the excellent
school-sponsored policy before registering for classes. A detailed
description of this Medical Insurance Plan is available upon request
by sending email.

The mandatory SSU Health Center Services fee ($95) provides SSALI
students with convenient on-campus care for less major medical
problems. It is available during fall and spring semesters only.

Housing 

There are a variety of attractive housing options. University
dormitories and apartments are sometimes available. Off-campus,
unfurnished apartments and shared rentals are also available. If you
prefer, SSALI can help to arrange a homestay with a family in the
local community.

For on-campus housing submit your request early, several months in
advance if possible. You may fax your application to 707/664-2451. For
more information see Housing Services

Fall semester 2003

September 11 - December 12, 2003 (13 weeks)
Mid-semester admission date: October 16, 2003
Application deadline: August 1, 2003 (for students outside of USA) 
Tuition: $2,790. due by September 10, 2003
Pre-registration discount ($50) if paid by August 21, 2003

Special session 

Special programs are also available by special arrangement. Contact
our office for further information.

 
Mid Semester 

Mid semester entrance is also permitted 

Sonoma will be very close to a neighboring city of Napa in
demographics:

Napa, California  
Napa is located in the heart of the Napa Valley 63 miles southwest of
Sacramento and 47 miles northeast of San Francisco. Napa, recognized
around the world as a great wine region, is nestled between Mount St.
Helena on the east and the Mayacamas Mountains to the west.

City Population  72,585  
County/Province Population  124,279  
Metro Population  518,821  
Median Household Income  $49,154  
Unemployment Rate  5.2%  
Crime Index*  63  

Winter Temperature Range  37/62  
Spring Temperature Range  42/75  
Summer Temperature Range  52/82  
Fall Temperature Range  42/81  
Annual Precipitation  25.12"  
Annual Snowfall  0.0"  

Cost of Living Index (U.S. average = 100)  136.12  
3-Bedroom House Price (U.S. $)  $261,709  
2-Bedroom Apartment Rent (U.S. $)  $804  
Property Tax Rate  1.02%  
Sales Tax (state and local)  7.5%  

I think if this was my decision, I would lean heavily toward any of
the schools in the North Bay as my preferred area to live and a good
compromise for Cost of Living.
___________________________________________________





Santa Cruz / South Bay
___________________________________________________

Language Pacifica
http://www.aaiep.org/memdetail.cfm?memid=268

456 California Avenue. 
Palo Alto 
CA 94306 
USA
 
Tel: (478) 301-5340 
Fax: (478)301-5341 
Email: esl@languagepacifica.com 
Web: http://www.languagepacifica.com/ 
    
Contact: Mr. Gerald Brett, Director 

DESCRIPTION

A Northern California institution since 1979, Language Pacifica
attracts students of the English language from all over the world.
Intensive English courses prepare students for success in college,
business, and daily life by developing their skills in grammar,
vocabulary usage, reading, writing, listening comprehension, speaking
and pronunciation. Business English, TOEFL Preparation, and Cambridge
Preparation classes are also available. Enrollment is ongoing, with
new students accepted every week.

LOCATION

35 miles south of San Francisco, Palo Alto is a central part of the
San Francisco Bay Area. The city's boundaries extend from the San
Francisco Bay on the east to the Skyline Ridge of the coastal
mountains on the west. The city has over 25 parks, six libraries, a
community swimming pool, a cultural center, community theatre and
museums. Because Palo Alto is home to Stanford University and the
famous Hewlett-Packard garage, Palo Alto is regarded as the birthplace
of Silicon Valley.

http://www.languagepacifica.com/

Courses:
http://www.languagepacifica.com/Courses/index.html

Language Pacifica offers a wide array of courses for students with
diverse backgrounds and needs. Our full-time core courses cover all
elements of English, including speaking, listening, grammar,
vocabulary, reading, and cross-cultural communication. In addition, we
offer several courses geared towards students who plan to study
English for specific purposes.

Many of our students plan to attend an American college. Language
Pacifica has teamed up with local colleges to facilitate a smooth
transition and help guarantee college admission. Read more about our
collegiate partnerships and our intensive TOEFL courses under the
College & TOEFL section.
 
    
SCHEDULE OF CLASSES 

C100 
Monday – Friday 
9:00 a.m. – 1:00 p.m. 
20 units/week 

General Intensive

Language Pacifica’s core course, consisting of Written Expression
(grammar and writing) from 9:00-10:50 and Oral Communication (reading
and speaking) from 11:10 -1:00. Class size limited to 12 students.
    
C101 
Monday – Friday 
2:00 p.m. – 6:00 p.m. 
20 units/week 

General Intensive

The school’s afternoon core program, consisting of American Culture
(conversation, reading, and vocabulary) from 2:00 – 3:50 and
Grammar/Writing (focus on English structure and college preparatory
writing) from 4:10 – 6:00. Class size limited to 12 students.
    
C200 
Monday – Friday 
9:00 a.m. – 3:50 p.m. 
30 units/week 

General Intensive + American Culture

Full-time study in Course 100, plus the addition of 10 units of
conversation practice. Class size limited to 12 students.
    
C201 
Monday – Friday 
11:10 a.m. – 6:00 p.m. 
30 units/week 

Oral Communication + American Culture + Grammar/Writing

Full-time study in Course 101, plus the addition of 10 units of Oral
Communication. Class size limited to 12 students.
 
   
C300 
Monday – Friday 
9:00 a.m. – 3:50 p.m. 
30 units/week 

General Intensive + English for Business

Full-time study in Course 100, plus 10 units of English for Business
in the afternoon. Limited to Level 5 and 6 students only.
    
C400 
Monday – Friday 
9:00 a.m. – 4:00 p.m. 
30 units/week 

General Intensive + Private Lessons

Full-time study in Course 100, plus two hours per day of private
instruction.
 

Housing:
http://www.languagepacifica.com/Accommodations/

Host Family 
Most Language Pacifica students who require housing stay with a host
family. A Language Pacifica host has been carefully chosen. Selection
usually consists of a telephone interview, an in-home interview, and
sometimes a follow-up meeting. We now work with more than 150 hosts,
located in the area between San Carlos to the north and Sunnyvale to
the south, and accessible by one hour or less of public
transportation.

Students may select housing with a host that will include breakfast
and dinner, breakfast only, or no meals. Kitchen use is offered in
some cases.

Sometimes, the host and student don’t develop a good relationship and,
for one reason or another, desire a change. We will change hosts as
soon as possible, usually within a few days, whenever no other
solution can be reached.

The advantage to staying with a host is the increased amount of
exposure to and practice with the English language and American
lifestyle it offers. Also, many students make lifelong friendships
with their hosts.

Language Pacifica defines “host family” as a single woman, a single
woman with children, or a couple with or without children. Please
refer to the price list for the current fees.
 
  
Hotel or Motel 
Some Language Pacifica students prefer to stay in a hotel. There are
many hotels, motels and inns, starting from $70 plus tax per night, in
this area for those interested in this option. A selected list is
available on request.
 
  
Furnished Apartment 
There are several complexes of short-term, furnished and unfurnished
apartments, often used by corporate executives. The monthly rates are
$1345-$3200, and the apartments are new, beautifully appointed and
very clean. If you’re interested, please ask for a brochure.
 
  
Other Options 
Housing in this area can be difficult to find. If a student doesn’t
choose one of the options listed above, here are a few other ways to
locate housing:

a. Local newspapers such as the Almanac, The Palo Alto Weekly,
www.PaloAltoOnline.com, and The Palo Alto Daily News have listings
that can be viewed online as well as in the papers.

b. Metro-Rent is a company in San Francisco that also has listings in
the Peninsula area. The listings can be viewed without exact addresses
at www.MetroRent.com and for $85 listings including addresses will be
provided for 60 days.
 
Fees:
http://www.languagepacifica.com/Registration/Fees.html

2003 Price List

Registration Fee: $95
  
Full-Time Courses
 Units 1 wk 2 wks 3 wks 4 wks 6 wks 8 wks 12 wks 16 wks 

General Intensive 

C100 Mon-Fri 9:00 - 1:00
C101 Mon-Fri 2:00 - 6:00

 20 $195 $375 $545 $695 $1020 $1335 $1920 $2445 


Intensive + Conversation

C200 Mon-Fri 9:00 - 3:50
C201 Mon-Fri 11:10 - 6:00

 30 $295 $570 $770 $995 $1460 $1910 $2745 $3500 


Intensive + Business 

C300 Mon-Fri 9:00 - 3:50

 30 $320 $600 $880 $1110 $1615 $2070 $2950 $3725 


General Intensive + Private Lessons

C400 Mon-Fri 9:00 - 4:00 

 30 $695 $1325 $1895 $2495 $3665 $4790 $6890 $8780 


Palo Alto:

Palo Alto is located 35 miles south of San Francisco and 15 miles
northwest of San Jose in Santa Clara County. Palo Alto enjoys
international name recognition and travellers from all over the world
come for purposes of education or research at Stanford University.

City Population  58,598  
County/Province Population  1,682,585  
Metro Population  1,682,585  
Median Household Income  $90,377  
Unemployment Rate  4.4%  
Crime Index*  46  

Winter Temperature Range  38/62  
Spring Temperature Range  43/73  
Summer Temperature Range  52/78  
Fall Temperature Range  43/78  
Annual Precipitation  14.96"  
Annual Snowfall  0.0"  

Cost of Living Index (U.S. average = 100)  253.68  
3-Bedroom House Price (U.S. $)  $812,000  
2-Bedroom Apartment Rent (U.S. $)  $2,059  
Property Tax Rate  1.07%  
Sales Tax (state and local)  8.0%  


As you can see, this is a costly area to live in. It is lovely, close
to San Francisco and the school has a lot to speak well of it.
___________________________________________________





Sacramento Area
___________________________________________________

Sierra College
International Student Office
5000 Rocklin Road
Rocklin, CA 95677 USA
Telephone: 916-789-2903
Fax: 916-789-2922
Contact Us!
http://www.esl.com/factshts/sierra.htm

"Thank you for your interest in attending Sierra College as an
international student. Choosing which college to attend is one of the
most important decisions you'll ever make! Sierra College is located
in the foothills of the beautiful Sierra Mountains of California, 100
miles east of San Francisco. Our main campus is located in Rocklin,
just minutes from Sacramento, the State capitol of California. Within
a 30-mile radius of the campus there are many recreational
opportunities with nearby golf courses, rivers and lakes. In one hour
by car, you can be in the beautiful Lake Tahoe region that offers
skiing, hiking, horseback riding and boating. Or you can choose to go
site seeing in San Francisco, the Napa Valley, or the Northern
California coast.
With an enrollment of approximately 18,000 students, Sierra College
has a national reputation of excellence and offers over 70 Associate
degree programs including Business, Computer Science, Engineering,
Electronics, Nursing, Early Childhood Education and many more!...

...English as a Second Language Program

Sierra College offers a multi-level ESL program, which is offered
throughout the year with August and January start dates. Our program
is designed for beginners as well as students who wish to improve
their reading, writing, speaking and listening skills. Enrollment in
our ESL program provides a fine opportunity for students to be
admitted to Sierra College with TOEFL scores of less than 450...

...On-Campus Housing

Sierra College is one of the few community colleges in California to
have residence halls on campus. Our newly remodeled dormitories
provide students affordable, safe, and fun housing. Our reasonable
rate of $2995 per 17-week semester ($25 a day) provides a furnished
room, 17 meals a week, all utilities except phone, 24-hour security,
and live-in supervisors. Living on campus is an excellent way to meet
friends, practice English skills, and become involved in campus life.

Save Money for First 2 Years of College

                Sierra College          CSU             UC 

TOEFL           450 or Enroll in ESL    510 +           550 + 
Average Cost of 
Tuition & Fees 
Per Year           $ 3,900            $ 8,000         $15,300

Sierra College Site:
http://www.sierracollege.edu/

English As A Second Language (ESL) Program
http://www.sierracollege.edu/ed_programs/esl/index.htm

"English as a Second Language is for non-native resident and
international speakers of English who would like to improve their
English language skills. Contact us by e-mail or call (011)
916-781-6213.

Innovative Program

We have a new and exciting program that has been recently redesigned
by a leader in the field of English as a Second Language. Our classes
are based on an innovative curriculum and the instructors use a
variety of current methods and techniques. The faculty are all
highly-trained with Master's degrees in the field of TESOL,
enthusiasm, dedication to improving the program even more and most
importantly, friendly smiles. We are a serious academic ESL program
with a fresh, fun approach.

Excellent Location

We are growing quickly and attracting international students from many
countries around the world partly because of our prime location in the
heart of the California Gold Country and close to many famous places
such as San Francisco, Lake Tahoe and the Napa Valley.

Small Diverse Classes

We also have several hundred resident ESL students from areas of the
former Soviet Union, Central and South America, the Middle East and
many other areas. Class size is limited to 15 to 25 students so there
is plenty of opportunity for student participation and contact with
the instructors.

New Facilities

Our facilities are brand new and include large classrooms all equipped
with TVs, VCRs and overhead projectors. We also have a new
state-of-the-art ESL Computer Lab with over a dozen software programs
for practicing English language skills. There is Internet access and
ESL Internet links with hundreds of Internet activities. Additionally,
we are also very proud of the ESL Outside Reading Library that has
over a thousand books at a range of ability levels which students can
borrow. Roseville Gateway has on-site registration services and a
privately-run cafe that offers delicious snacks and meals.

Many Levels of Instruction

We have a 6-level ESL Program beginning at the Novice-High (high
beginner) level and progressing up to the Advanced College level (the
equivalent of English 1A or English 101 at most universities). There
are 3 classes at every level except the most advanced:
Writing/Grammar, Reading/Vocabulary and Listening/Speaking. All Sierra
College ESL classes are credited college classes of 4 units each. The
first 3 levels (510, 520 & 530) are non-transfer credit and the top 3
levels (20, 30 & 40) are transfer credit for Community Colleges,
California State Universities, The University of California (they do
not meet the composition requirements at the University of California
though) and private universities and colleges. In addition to 4 hours
of classroom instruction for Writing/Grammar and Listening/Speaking
courses, there is a 1-hour laboratory requirement that is competed
during open lab times in the new ESL Computer Lab..."

Why Attend Sierra College?
http://www.sierracollege.edu/ed_programs/student_support_services/international_students/Why%20Sierra.htm

Sierra is located in another fine location. Rocklin is 30 minutes or
less from downtown Sacramento and is just a small stretch on you 90
minute drive to San Francisco. It has on campus housing and seems to
be a very good value.


Fee & Expense Information
Enrollment fees are established by the State Legislature and are
subject to change.
http://www.sierracollege.edu/stu_services/admissions/fees2.html

Rocklin, California  

Rocklin is located in Placer County 20 miles northeast of Sacramento
and 105 miles northeast of San Francisco. Rocklin lies between the
majestic Sierra Nevada mountains and Sacramento at the Northern
California crossroads of industry, residential development, recreation
and agriculture.

City Population  36,330  
County/Province Population  248,399  
Metro Population  1,628,197  
Median Household Income  $64,737  
Unemployment Rate  4.6%  
Crime Index*  25  

Winter Temperature Range  38/60  
Spring Temperature Range  43/80  
Summer Temperature Range  55/93  
Fall Temperature Range  43/87  
Annual Precipitation  17.52"  
Annual Snowfall  0.0"  

Cost of Living Index (U.S. average = 100)  136.64  
3-Bedroom House Price (U.S. $)  $289,000  
2-Bedroom Apartment Rent (U.S. $)  $720  
Property Tax Rate  1.03%  
Sales Tax (state and local)  7.0%  

___________________________________________________

UC Davis Extension
http://englishlanguage.ucdavis.edu/

"For more than 25 years, thousands of college and university students,
and working professionals have come to UC Davis Extension to learn or
improve their ability to speak, write, understand and communicate
effectively in American English.

Our students come from a range of academic and professional
backgrounds, with varied objectives in mind. Many plan to attend an
American university after working on their English language skills.
Others work for an international organization that demands excellent
spoken English for career success. Some come to Davis for a four-week
immersion in American culture and language. And some are non-native
English-speaking professionals or academics who work in Northern
California but who see the need to improve their conversational
fluency in order to advance professionally.
Our programs include: 


Intensive English Program 

A ten-week, full-time program focusing on grammar, vocabulary,
speaking, listening, reading and writing skills.

The Bridge Program 

The Bridge Program allows students who have strong English-language
proficiency skills to take courses for credit or noncredit with UC
Davis undergraduates in all fields of study.

Communication and Culture Program 

Four-week program with 80 hours of instruction offered once in winter
and twice each summer.

Management Program for International Professionals 

Learn about American management practices and culture in this unique
four-week program designed for international management professionals.

Custom-Designed Programs for Individuals and Groups 

These programs range from those that emphasize English proficiency and
American culture to those that are related to content expertise of the
university. This is an ideal way to ensure that the specific
educational needs of a group of participants are addressed.

International Professional Programs 

English for Medical Professionals 

English for Legal Professionals 

Orientation in U.S.A. Law 

International Commercial Law Seminar in Cologne, Germany 

Financing International Transactions 

Summer Master's Degree in International Commercial Law 

Part-time English Language Programs for Students Living in the Davis
Area
These programs are designed to help non-native speakers of English
improve their language skills. They are ideal for working
professionals who want to get ahead in their organization as well as
students who plan to study in an American university or college.

 
"This school is authorized under Federal law to enroll nonimmigrant
students."

About International English and Professional Programs 
http://englishlanguage.ucdavis.edu/programs.html

"International English and Professional Programs has offered English
language, technical, and professional training to international
participants for more than 32 years. Because the programs enroll
people from many different countries, participants have many
opportunities to have intercultural experiences.

Our classroom center is located on the beautiful UC Davis campus —
close to the UC Davis main library, indoor and outdoor campus
recreational facilities, and the student experimental farm.

The instructors at UC Davis Extension are outstanding! They are
dedicated English language and professional program teachers, and all
have advanced degrees. Several of our faculty are internationally
recognized for their expertise and have published ESL materials
(books, videos, and CD ROMS). More importantly, the teachers are
personally dedicated to helping each student achieve his or her goals.

A 25-station Multimedia Resource Center, located at our classroom
center, is a model for English language programs throughout the U.S.
The teachers work with students on individualized practice in grammar,
pronunciation, conversational skills, vocabulary development, and
reading comprehension. The center is equipped with computers, VCRs and
monitors, DVDs, Language Master technology, satellite TV with closed
captions, and an extensive library of videos, audio cassettes, books,
and software. In addition, students have access to practice test
materials for TOEFL, TOEIC, GRE, and GMAT examinations.

Two 20-station computer laboratories provide state-of-the-art computer
technology and Internet connectivity. Composition, Public Speaking,
TOEFL, American Media, and Computer Skills classes are held here.
During non-class times, students can use self-paced training programs,
do Internet searches, work on homework, and access email accounts to
stay in touch with family and friends back home.

For students who plan to continue their studies in the U.S., the
Academic Advising Program assists students with the application
process. This program is designed to help students find the best match
between their goals and the programs offered by various colleges and
universities..."

Enrollment information 
http://englishlanguage.ucdavis.edu/enroll.html

Housing alternatives 
http://englishlanguage.ucdavis.edu/housing.html

Homestay: Living with an American family 

The Worldwide International Student Exchange Foundation (WISE)
arranges for our international students to live with an American
family. The family provides a private room with a bed, dresser and
desk, plus two or three meals a day. This experience is a wonderful
way to learn about U.S. customs and American food, participate in
family celebrations, and practice everyday English. Families who
welcome international students into their homes not only want to share
their way of life with the students, but also want to learn about the
students' home and culture. Many students consider the experiences
with "their family" the most memorable part of their stay in Davis and
keep in touch with their American host parents for many years.

Apartments 

A limited number of fully-furnished apartments managed by our office
are available. Students share a room with one other student (single
occupancy can be arranged for an additional fee). Students shop for
and prepare their own meals or eat out at local restaurants or on
campus. Apartment amenities include laundry facilities, cleaning
service, swimming pool, spa and weight room.

Dormitories 

Dormitories (conveniently located near the UC Davis campus) are open
to International English and Professional Programs students during the
summer only. Students share a room with one other student. Rooms come
equipped with two beds, dressers and desks. Meals are provided in the
campus dining halls.

Renting a Room in a Private House or Apartment 

Many Davis families and student groups rent rooms in their own homes
for approximately $300-$375 per month. Renting a room is an excellent
opportunity to live with others who are not part of the International
English and Professional Programs. Students can make these
arrangements on their own once they arrive in Davis. To get a preview
of what might be available, check the "Community Housing List,"
offered by the Associated Students of UC Davis, at
http://chl.ucdavis.edu or the Davis Enterprise newspaper
advertisements at http://davisenterprise.com/classifieds (click on
"rentals").


Housing Fees 

Application Fee (nonrefundable) $275 for more than four weeks 
$175 for two to four weeks 

$50 for each requested new placement 
 
Homestay $622.50 per month or $20.75 per day for two meals a day 

$682.50 per month or $22.75 per day for three meals a day 
(Prices subject to change.) 

Furnished Apartment $180 per week double occupancy
 
$240 per week single occupancy
 
(Prices subject to change. Limited availability. Students will be
accommodated in the order in which the housing application fee is
received; to ensure a place, send housing placement fee with program
application fee.)
 
Dormitory $56 per night double occupancy 

$68 per night single occupancy 
(available summer only)  

UC Davis is an excellent in a fine small community. It is 20 minutes
closer to San Francisco than Sacramento. It is not listed for crime
and other statistics, but is similar to Sacramento in most regards and
lower in crime.

___________________________________________________

California State University - Sacramento
http://www.cce.csus.edu/programs/esl/englishlanginstitute.htm


English Language Institute

Overview

The English Language Institute at California State University,
Sacramento (CSUS) provides international learners with opportunities
to obtain an excellent education while becoming familiar with people
and cultures from around the world. Located in the capital of
California, CSUS is a safe, friendly campus that offers a variety of
educational and recreational opportunities.


English Language Curriculum

The CSUS English Language Institute (ELI) prepares its students with
the skills needed for study in an American university environment.
Students develop communication skills for professional and social
settings in seven levels of all ESL areas (grammar, listening,
reading, speaking, vocabulary and writing). Program sessions begin
every 8 weeks.

ELI Objectives 

Help students develop the skills necessary to acquire fluency in
English as a Second Language
Introduce students to various aspects of American culture and society
Prepare students to communicate effectively in English 
Provide general English skills for business, travel and educational
purposes
Transition students from an intensive English program to an academic
program

Benefits

Small class size 
20 hours of instruction each week 
Classes held on the CSUS campus 
Year-round instruction in seven levels (basic to advanced) 
Professional staff 
Excellent instructors (with master’s degrees in TESOL and
international teaching experience)
Residential campus in Northern California with access to campus
activities
Social and cultural activities 
Conversation partners 
Immigration counseling available 
Open University courses and assistance from an academic advisor 
Official certificate of completion 
Free Extra Curricular Services

Access to computer labs, library and recreational facilities 
Speaking partner programs 
One major recreational trip per session (San Francisco or Lake Tahoe)
Two local trips per session 
ESL Academic Tuition

$1,575/per student/per 8 week session

$1,940/per student/per 10 week session

Price includes: 160 hours of instruction, computer labs, trips,
student support and pick-up at Sacramento International Airport.
Airport pickups can be arranged for Mondays through Fridays, 9 a.m. -
3 p.m. Please contact the English Language Institute at eli@csus.edu
with detailed flight information.

There is $75 non-refundable student application fee.

Housing

Affordable on and off-campus options are available. Students must
arrange for their own housing.


On-campus residence halls range from $125-$150/week (more information
at http://www.csus.edu/housing) or call (916) 278-6655.
Apartments near campus range from $600-$800/month for two bedrooms 
Host Family Program: For application and information, please call
(916) 813-6698 or email IHPhomestay@comcast.net

Additional ESL Study Expenses (approximate)

Health Insurance - $90/session (required) 
Books and Materials - $100/session 

About California State University, Sacramento

As the seventh largest university of the 23-campus California State
University system CSUS offers its students the prestige of the largest
public university system in the United States as well as access to
fields of study and partnerships with universities in over 100
countries. CSUS serves over 23,000 students. Nearly 1,000 of those are
international students from more than 700 countries.

CSUS is located on a beautiful 300-acre site five miles from the State
Capitol building. The historic American River edges the eastern side
of the campus and miles of trails along the river link CSUS with
attractions such as Folsom Lake and Old Sacramento. The University is
surrounded by shops and restaurants and is easily accessible by bus
and light rail systems.

Sacramento: The Heart of California

Sacramento is the state capital of California and the seat of
California government. The city reflects a unique blend of old and
new. In the heart of this rich historical area, just a few minutes
walk from the Capitol building, lies "Old Sacramento," an accurate
replica of the Sacramento waterfront during the 1850s. The Sacramento
area is also referred to as the "Second Silicon Valley" as many
high-tech industries have transferred to this region.

Just several hours’ drive from both the Sierra Nevada Mountains and
the Pacific Ocean, Sacramento has a "Mediterranean" climate, with mild
year-round temperatures and plenty of trees. Summers are dry with
little to moderate humidity and an abundance of sunshine. Cool,
sometimes rainy days are common in December, January and February.

Sacramento is situated between San Francisco in the west and Lake
Tahoe in the east. Both San Francisco and Lake Tahoe are easily
accessible to students for day trips, shopping, recreation and
entertainment.

2003/2004 Academic Sessions


Fall #1: August 18 - October 10, 2003

Fall #2: October 20 - December 12

Spring #1: January 20 - March 12, 2004

Spring #2: March 22 - May 28, 2004 (10 weeks)

Summer #1: June 27 - July 30, 2004

Summer #2: July 5 - July 30, 2004 (4 weeks)

Fall #1: August 23 - October 8, 2004

Fall #2: October 18 - December 10, 2004

___________________________________________________



Additional Links:

English Language Schools in California 
http://www.englishinusa.com/California.html

Study Abroad Guides
http://www.istudy.com/usa/ecalifornia.htm

ESL Programs in California
Welcome to the Study Abroad Guides directory of ESL Programs in
California. Click on a school name to visit its web site...

EF International Language School - San Francisco
http://www.ef.com/master/ls03/shared/destinations/SFO/

College of Marin
http://www.marin.cc.ca.us/


Search Strategy:

esl +program +"northern california"
ESL +california +rating
crime in northern california

I have reviewed dozens of schools in the areas of interest and have
found the listings above to be the best choices based on your
criteria. By far, my preference falls to North Bay schools for best
value and lifestyle, though the Sacramento Area schools also offer
good values, lower cost of living and a good quality of life.

I trust my research has provided you with good information and a
variety of choices to pursue the study of ESL in Northern California.
If a link above should fail to work or anything require further
explanation or research, please do post a Request for Clarification
prior to rating the answer and closing the question and I will be
pleased to assist further.

Regards,

-=clouseau=-

Request for Answer Clarification by educationbryan-ga on 15 Aug 2003 08:31 PDT
Thanks.  Great answer and a lot of detail and I very much appreciated
your ability to form an opinion based upon your research to give me a
qualified recommendation.  Would give it a 9/10 with the caveat that
the clarification requested eMail addresses for the Admissions
Department at those institutions as tuition information was not
readily available as you pointed out.  Asides from that it would have
been a 10/10.

Many thanks again and have a great weekend!

Clarification of Answer by clouseau-ga on 15 Aug 2003 09:26 PDT
Hello again educationbryan,

Sorry for any oversights and thank you for your comments.

Some of these schools did not list a specific admissions email. Just
to put contact information in one place for you, the following are the
best choice of contacts I could locate for each school:



CCSF Mission Campus
hayala@ccsf.edu 


American Academy of English - SF
esl@aaesl.com


University of Northern California - Petaluma 
admits@uncm.edu


Sonoma State University 
Form: http://www.sonoma.edu/ExEd/ApplyEnroll/ali.html


Language Pacifica 
456 California Avenue. 
Palo Alto 
CA 94306 
USA
 
Tel: (478) 301-5340 
Fax: (478)301-5341 
Email: esl@languagepacifica.com 


Sierra College 
International Student Office 
5000 Rocklin Road 
Rocklin, CA 95677 USA 
Telephone: 916-789-2903 
Fax: 916-789-2922 
mailto:kfoster@sierracollege.edu?subject=ESL


UC Davis Extension 
http://www.extension.ucdavis.edu/secure/Requestinfo.asp

mailto:questions@unexmail.ucdavis.edu


California State University - Sacramento 
mailto:wasinal@csus.edu?subject=Request_Catalog

Bill Sharar 
Program Manager
Phone: (916) 278-3628
shararb@csus.edu

Best of luck pursuing this.

Regards,

-=clouseau=-
Comments  
Subject: Re: Fulltime ESL programs in Northern California (Bay Area, within 90 minutes of
From: dscotton-ga on 11 Aug 2003 16:33 PDT
 
Clouseau's answer is excellent.  However, when he says the climate is
significantly "better" in Marin, Napa, Sonoma, Contra Costa, and
Sacramento, I believe it would be more accurate to say "hotter".  Some
people do prefer the comfortable San Francisco temperatures.
Subject: Re: Fulltime ESL programs in Northern California (Bay Area, within 90 minutes of SF
From: clouseau-ga on 11 Aug 2003 16:54 PDT
 
Point taken, dscotton. However, San Franciso as small as it is
actually has nine distinct climates! Head just a bit north or east and
we can say the climates are not hotter, but perhaps a bit warmer and
less extreme. You will also get a good deal more sunshine than in most
neighborhoods in the city.

The "heat" really doesn't show up until Walnut Creek, Concord, and the
corridor to Sacramento.

-=clouseau=-

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