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Subject: Low cost bandwidth with PHP 4.3.2 support
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: fireduck-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 14 Aug 2003 08:20 PDT
Expires: 13 Sep 2003 08:20 PDT
Question ID: 244705
Hello,

I would like to have a list of hosting service providers providing
following features and meeting my criterias.

1. low cost bandwidth (traffic). Prefer not to exceed $1.5/GB
2. Php4.3.2
3. Mysql db
4. low cost addition storage
5. reliable and stable

I would also like to have your comment or somebody's comment on the
listed providers.

thks.
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Subject: Re: Low cost bandwidth with PHP 4.3.2 support
Answered By: notyou-ga on 14 Aug 2003 15:20 PDT
 
Hi fireduck:

I'm reviewing three webhosting providers that I'm familiar with that
meet your requirements:  iPowerWeb, which snsh-ga mentioned, Pair.com,
and DreamHost.

I've done consulting for a client who used iPowerWeb.  They use the 
Linux-based 'cPanel' system (www.cpanel.net), which works ok, but
seems a bit kludgy.  They are cheap though, as snsh-ga noted.  Comes
out to about $0.33/GB.

http://ipowerweb.com/products/index.html

[Minimum plan includes MySQL = $9.95/mo]

However in evaluating webhosts, I also like to see how long a company
has been around, and what kind of technical details they post on their
website.  iPowerWeb has only been around since 1999, and they don't
list more than one backbone provider.

http://ipowerweb.com/aboutus/index.html

In contrast, DreamHost and Pair.com have been around from 1997 and
1996, respectively:

http://www.dreamhost.com/aboutus.html
http://www.pair.com/pair/advantages.html

And they both boast multiple redundant connections to the Internet:

https://panel.dreamhost.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=433
http://www.pair.com/pair/facilities/network.html

Pair has been my personal web provider for the past couple of years,
and they are solid, which a well-established reputation for
reliability and stability.  You'll be paying a premium for their
services though.  Their bandwidth price is at your price point of
$1.5/GB.

http://www.pair.com/pair/shared/

[Minimum plan to get MySQL = "Advanced" at $17.95/mo]

I have friends that use DreamHost that are quite happy with the level
of service they receive.  Their pricing comes in between
$0.50-$2.00/GB, depending on which plan you sign-up for.

http://www.dreamhost.com/shared/

[Minimum plan to get MySQL = "Sweet Dreams" at $19.95/mo]

If you have any additional questions, feel free to clarify them here
before rating my answer.  Thanks!

--
notyou-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by fireduck-ga on 14 Aug 2003 21:30 PDT
Hello notyou & snsh

I did spend time on those ISP based on your research.

I looked at ipowerweb, I really can not find $0.33/GB on the product
page. Could you pls tell me how the figure comes from?

I looked at dreamhost, on the
http://www.dreamhost.com/shared/comparison.html, the additional
bandwidth is from $5-$12 /GB. It is quite expensive.

I also looked at www.pair.com, on the
"http://www.pair.com/pair/shared/", I can see it says "- Additional
transfer billed at $0.40/month for each MB increase in the daily
average
   (less than $0.01 per megabyte transferred) ".

So it is about $4/GB/mon.

Answer to snsh, I am a developer and developing some applications and
will work as an application service provider. Since it is new, 25Gb is
enough. However, in the long run, additional charges to the bandwidth
& storage will carry the cost. That's why I search for cheap bandwidth
& storage. Since my service will target the home based or small
business, I can not charge them a lot.

Also, the PHP requirement is only because I believe Java hosting is
far more expensive than php hosting. If it is not the case, pls let me
know which Java hosting is cheap.

thks and rgds,
fireduck-ga

Clarification of Answer by notyou-ga on 15 Aug 2003 01:31 PDT
Hi fireduck:

iPowerWeb Bandwidth
===================
I came up with $0.33/GB by taking the $9.95/30GB figure that snsh
quoted.  So it only applies for the first 30GB/mo.
[ http://www.ipowerweb.com/products/index.html#1 ]

The rates for bandwidth when you exceed the 30GB/mo are $2/GB in 5GB
increments.  (This amount must be prepaid for the full-term of your
account -- so 3, 6, 12 or 24 months.)  And the maximum that you can
add is 10GB/mo*.
[ https://secure.ipowerweb.com/cgi-bin/additional_services/order.cgi?m=2&add_serv=add_bandwidth
]

* Note that there is an answer in their "Help Center" under the topic
"How Can I Add More Bandwidth" that claims you can add up to 20GB/mo. 
I would recommend calling them (888-511-HOST) to clarify this.

Pair.com Bandwidth
==================
As far as Pair's bandwidth policies, I believe it's actually worse
than you figured:
[ http://www.pair.com/pair/faq/features.html#x17 ]

Pair bases their charges on daily averages.  So let's assume you use
exactly 700MB/day (which x30 days = 21GB).  No extra charges.

Each extra GB of monthly usage breaks down to an average of 33MB/day. 
So at $0.40/MB, that's more like $13.20/mo to add 1 more GB!

(In their defense though, they do eliminate the highest day from the
average, so that helps avoid extra charges if your traffic happens to
spike on one particular day.)

But yes, you're right -- that really doesn't fit your requirements
well.  Sorry about not doing more extensive calculations.

More Suggestions
================
So let me give you a few more suggestions.

Searching Google for:  { ipowerweb bandwidth }, I found this resource:
[ http://www.10-cheapwebhosting.com ]

Searching Google for { inexpensive bandwidth web hosting } I found:
[ http://www.low-cost-web-hosting-guide.com/ ]

Their top three listings all include iPowerWeb, as well as LunarPages.
 I'm also going to take a look at globat, and InMotion.

LunarPages [ http://www.lunarpages.com ]
========================================
$22.95/mo "Premium Plan" = 60GB/mo and 800MB
[ http://www.lunarpages.com/hosting.html ]

Extra bandwidth $3.95/GB
[ http://www.lunarpages.com/faq/extrabandwidth.html ]

Interestingly, you can add JSP support for an additional $2/mo
[ http://www.lunarpages.com/faq/upgrades.html ]

Re: longevity and reliability, they've been around since 1997, and
claim to have multiple backbones to the Internet.
[ http://www.lunarpages.com/about.html ]

InMotion [ http://www.inmotionhosting.com/ ]
============================================
$19.95/mo "Pro Hosting Plan" = 50GB/mo and 1000MB
[ http://www.inmotionhosting.com/pages/proPlan.html ]

Extra bandwidth $3/GB
[ http://www.inmotionhosting.com/salesfaqs.html#a_bandwidth ]

They've only been around since 2001, and they aren't specific about
their network redundancy.
[ http://www.inmotionhosting.com/salesfaqs.html#g_howlong ]

Globat [ http://www.globat.com/ ]
=================================
$19.95/mo "Commerce Starter" = 75GB/mo and 1500MB
Extra bandwidth $5/GB
[ http://www.globat.com/packages/index.php?packages=commerceStarter ]

Globat is also a relative newcomer, starting in 2001 (but by a
webhosting veteran).  However they appear to only have one Internet
uplink (!!)
[ http://www.globat.com/aboutus/index.php?aboutus=theOriginal ]
[ http://www.globat.com/aboutus/index.php?aboutus=theNetwork ]

Notes about Shell Access and Managing your Web Site
===================================================
In my original post I forgot to mention that I also like DreamHost and
Pair.com because they allow shell (telnet and SSH) access to their
servers, which for a Unix guy like me, is invaluable for development
purposes.  (Avoiding the need to set-up a staging server, FTPing files
up after every change, etc.)

Like iPowerWeb, iMotion and LunarPages provide the cPanel system for
managing your account.  cPanel is a pretty comprehensive solution for
web site management, giving you control over a lot of items that might
require shell access.  Globat uses the Plesk control panel system,
which has similar management capabilities.
[ http://www.plesk.com ]

CONCLUSIONS
===========
I'm going to say that LunarPages looks like the best deal.  $22.95 for
60GB/mo of bandwidth and 800MB of disk space is a good value.  But
more importantly, the company has been around for a while and seems to
have good network redundancy, which to me is a good indicator of
reliability.  As a bonus, you can add JSP support for a relatively
inexpensive $2/mo surcharge.

One last note:  LunarPages doesn't allow subleasing your pages to
clients.  However if each client is going to be getting their own
site, you shouldn't have a problem:
[ http://www.lunarpages.com/faq/reseller.html ]

Hope this answer is a little more in line with what you were looking
for!

--notyou
Comments  
Subject: Re: Low cost bandwidth with PHP 4.3.2 support
From: snsh-ga on 14 Aug 2003 10:29 PDT
 
Can you specify:

expected bandwidth used
uptime needed -- 99.999% (seconds/year) or 99.9% (hours/year)
expected storage used

ipowerweb might be okay -- 30GB/400MB/$9 month

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