You should be most cautious seeing a denturist because they are not
trained in the basic sciences and you cannot sue them if something
goes wrong.
A dentist buys the skill of the most skillful artisan. The dentists is
your protection from pretenders or unskilled providers.
Below is my post on their website with their response:
Yhttp://www.denturistinsight.com/
My post on the denturist website: NATURALLY IT WAS NOT POSTED
Dear Global Denturists,
you are all sadly misplaced in your ambition for one reason only: you
don't have the education necessary to diagnose and evaluate the
science behind dentistry. Your group hysteria about cutting out the
middleman is wrong: you know that a dentist contributes, like an
architect, to the overall design and client satisfaction of a
prosthetist, yet you claim to be cheaper yet in Western Australia
Prosthetist are 30% to 400% more expensive than dentists.
You run the argument that "we make the teeth" Bull The teeth are made
in factories in Germany and America and are purchased on wee cards of
6.
You run the argument that "we cut out the middleman" Bull again. The
dentist fee reflects the time he spends clincially. That may be 2 to 3
times the laboratory time and at a reduced hourly rate. A dentist
subsidises a denture patient from his other 'profit centers'.
Plus, the dentist underwrites the remake/reline/redo/reset/remount
stages, which often means a dentist makes far less profit on a Full
denture or partial denture than the technician who does and should
pick up a succession of correction fees. The myth is further
perpetrated by the claim "We made the denture", which is more
distortion. Who made the Sydney Opera House? Who made a Versaci dress?
Who made St Pauls Catherdral? The granolithic worker, the seamstress,
the bricklayer? No, the designer "made" it, bought it to fruition, for
without the designer, the diagnostician, the event would never have
happened. I don't know of any world famous bricklayers, because they
don't have the organisational structure, credibility nor broad
training. Yes, a bricklayer might become a better architect for his
experience, as have some dental technicians become excellent dentists,
yet the door for promotion is further education, not lobbying
politicians on the basis of discrimination, which misses the point
which is actually
In many counties denturists run adverts saying they are "specialising
in cosmetic dentures" or bleaching or implant dentures when they know
^&&(&(*&*^%^&%$^& all about the matter. How can I say that? I am
President of our local Implant Society and the technician members are
the top guys, the crown and bridge marvels who earn huge incomes from
appreciative dentists, yet there are no Prosthetists and we don't want
them because implant structures require Olympic skills, not Page One
denture hotshots. It?s a bit like if you were a top Parisian Chef,
would you want to have shop down on Railway Parade making donuts? No!
A man wants to fulfil his potential. If I am capable of carving a
David, I am not going to make teddy bears out of soap at a street
market.
The dental technician industry has to take a hard look at itself, its
roots historically when dentists delegated/employed assistants to do
certain work. You were not told on day one of your course, this is how
to make a denture and one day in the beautiful future, you can do it
yourself, directly. Most apprentice technicians I have worked with in
the Military, did Rabbits for Cash, treating illegally Aunty Edith or
the woman next door and got away with it because, taking an impression
is really not Albert Einstein level, even dental nurses can/could do
it ( but strangely, women have a different morality, they don?t????..
ponder that???. but its the knowledge behind the matter which counts.
Could dentists do wart removal, lip and face tucks, remove the wrinkle
from your tummy? Yes, but they don't. A second ?..strange that????..
but that's the rub, chaps, you do and you don't know that you should
not... for political, market simplicity, knowledge, the history of
science, the whole basis of our Western advancement is the rigid
layering of skills and the training and interlocking of knowledge
conduits through Universities, post graduate courses, the free
inter-change of knowledge, funding of courses through private practice
primary care providers. Sorry, quackery is inescapable without
education, and I am all for rapid scholarships for dental technicians
to study Dentistry, but these feel good home and aspirations are going
to split the delivery system into the committed skilled technician
supporting the committed dentist versus the advertising half baked
quasi trained prosthetist/denturist/advance technician with links to
the amoral money hungry fringe of dentists. These dentists are the
scum-bags, there is one or two in every town. Charismatic, often
skilled, but money money money money orientated. I was taught that
money was secondary to patient welfare.- that is the hallmark of a
profession- a fine line that when it is crossed.. the alarm bells ring
for men of morality and insight. You know about that inner justice
alarm bell.
If you cannot cut the mustard, get another job and leave the real
dentistry to the skilled Michelangelo artisan dental ceramists and
stop faking that making rabbits for the public is the height of
dentistry. We all know rabbits, full dentures and partial plastics is
page one of the book and there are more rewards by being better, but
some just cannot sell their innate skills to the discerning market, so
they have to sell to the public who have only 3 factors to determine
success: does it fall out, does it hurt and does it hit when I close
my teeth.
Every dental technician that reads this, I challenge you to e-mail me
and tell me that I am not wrong: dentures are more than all that and
we all know it! Partial dentures must not endanger the periodontium,
complicate future restorations, induce decay or overload teeth with
periodontal liabilities. All these evaluations require dentist
evaluation via x-rays and the clinical history. A dental nurse could
take an impression, even a monkey could take an impression. Its the
thinking and evaluation that counts and the lack of thinking that
condemns denturity or mechanical dentistry to history's rubbish bin as
a dangerous experiment that is not working and will never work.
What is happening globally, you might ask, as a final rally to support
the ridiculous proposition? Globally, the dental technicians have
bribed, collected money for war chests, opened the door and then shut
it in Washington, Arizona, Perth.. been sued for 1.25 million bucks by
the 92% failed students that they wanted to shut out, paraded with
false Doctors of Medical Denturity .. the result is that courses are
not being run, the numbers of active denturists have dwindled by 3/4
and they have had to re-ignite their lobby group and war chest to
change legislation -and pay politicans -to allow them and hygienists
to take x-rays, bribe to make snoring devices, TMJ and bleaching
guards.... its retrogressive and bad science. Would you want your son
or daughter to enter a career which can only provide one service? A
bloody denture. It?s not logical, its financial suicide as people want
to keep their teeth, fluoride in water, toothpaste, modern diets,
preventive dentistry etc
With 40,000 honest dentist based dental technicians, 10 denturist in
each State those Amerian States stupid to allow denturists is not a
movement, its a stupid abberaton displaying the corruption of the
legislative logic.
The denturist movement is misplaced, inappropriate, dumb, shallow,
based on false assumptions, false urban myths, false Western practice,
bad, bad, bad. It promotes the second raters above the top
technicians, the ceramists who have large lucrative businesses selling
their superior and rare skills to a non-discerning public who would
not know an upper denture from a lower.Email me and tell me I am
wrong.
The answer? The ceramists need to gain ascendancy above the plastic
pretenders. In the mean time, the public will suffer in the hands of
the plastic guys who could not reach to top of the pyramid, ceramics..
..top dollar.. top skill but punch and Judy-ed off centre stage by the
lads you had to fire because they were just not good enough, but they
knew the tiny secret of moulding a denture. Ceramists unite!!!!!!!!!
What's the bet, this post will either not be listed or will last a
verrrrrrrrrrrry short time. Take heart... many Aussie politicians will
be visiting this link (which I will be sending to them soon) to see if
you are brave enough to accept a criticism that hopefully is a reality
check for the dreamers who want to fill every space with a partial
denture. Boys, nobody says you cannot but SHOULD YOU, when infact any
dental auxillary or even the patient could take the impression but we
know there is far more involved?.... it is against the public interest
but merely enhances technician financial interest. Technician before
public welfare? No.
Reply from everjo@juno.com Denturist Insight Website
I guess you'll have to go back to school to learn what a Denturist's
Scope consists of. Obviously, if your life was really so meaningful,
you wouldn't have time to whine over something you don't have. Get a
life! |
