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Subject: Reckless Driving General - Do I need a lawyer?
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: jkrech17-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 20 Aug 2003 11:24 PDT
Expires: 19 Sep 2003 11:24 PDT
Question ID: 246948
Hi,

I received a ticket for the following in Fairfax County, VA.

46.2-852. Reckless driving; general rule. 
Irrespective of the maximum speeds permitted by law, any person who
drives a vehicle on any highway recklessly or at a speed or in a
manner so as to endanger the life, limb, or property of any person
shall be guilty of reckless driving.

I do not believe the charge as the statute lists above describes my
actions on Route 28/50 on August 7, 2003, at 12:50 P.M.  I was driving
North on Route 28 in the far right lane when another vehicle quickly
moved in front of me in order to get off the exit for
Winchester/Fairfax (Route 50).  I had to apply pressure to the brakes
and I continued to turn my blinker on and moved into the middle lane
directly in front of the undercover officer.  I proceeded to check my
mirrors and put my left blinker on again to move to the outer lane
where it was less congested and safe. The lines were dotted, there was
no accident, and I was not speeding. In no way did I endanger the
life, limb, or property of any person including myself. I have pulled
a copy of my driving record and only have the following listed:

11-14-02  CONV-0.0 PTS  FAIL TO CHANGE ADDRESS/NAME ON DL  DUVAL 
COUNTY  6632BWD
CONV. DATE: 11-25-02 
DISPOSITION: GUILTY 
CONV. CHARGE CODE: 594
 
05-30-01  CONV-0.0 PTS  SEAT BELT VIOLATION  DUVAL  COUNTY  6610AXY  
CONV. DATE: 06-27-01 
DISPOSITION: GUILTY 
CONV. CHARGE CODE: 407 

I sent a letter to the Commonwealth Attorney over two weeks ago to see
if this can be resolved without having to attend court; however, I
have not received a response. I called their office and the clerk
stated the Attorney will not read or communicate with anyone other
than lawyers.  I have consulted a myriad of attorney's in the area and
they all want $750 - $900 for this type of charge.  My question then
becomes whether it is worth paying a lawyer for my situation and if so
can they get much more dramatic results than me?  Are judges able to
look at the situation, driving record, etc and lower the charge or
does this all have to be done between the lawyer and Commonwealth
attorney?  Lastly, is it possible for me to go to court and try to
plea bargain with the judge and if we cannot come up with an
acceptable charge to plead not guilty and get a lawyer?  Bottom line I
just don't want to avoid legal fees to have a misdemeanor and higher
insurance costs haunt me down the line.  My job may require a security
clearance and I will not be able to obtain this with a charge of this
nature.  Thanks in advance for all your help!
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Subject: Re: Reckless Driving General - Do I need a lawyer?
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 20 Aug 2003 13:52 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear jkrech17-ga;

Thank you for allowing me an opportunity to answer your interesting
question.

We cannot provide legal advice in this forum but I’ve been in law
enforcement now for more than two decades so I hope you will benefit
from my experience. From the looks at your driving record, you have no
“moving violations” (the notations you do have are considered
non-moving offenses) meaning that this would possibly be considered a
first offense in your case. This is a good point because the best we
can hope to accomplish here is to advise you of the pros and cons of
having a lawyer as opposed to appearing “pro se” (without counsel).

PRO - LAWYER

You will obviously benefit from the lawyer’s court expertise and his
knowledge of the law. It’s usually a good idea to have a lawyer with
you when you appear in court or at the very least act on the
professional advice of a lawyer. Additionally, lawyers know loopholes
and have friends in the judicial system that can occasionally “pull
strings”. It isn’t uncommon for minor cases such as this to be
“settled” to some degree outside the courtroom, or even over the
phone, hours or sometimes days before the actual hearing. Your lawyer
would love to make a few phone calls in your behalf because if he can
a prosecutor or judge to agree to favorably dispose of your case
before the hearing he can still collect his fee from you but utilize
the time he saves on some other case (receiving another fee, of
course). This is not unusual, it’s just the nature of the profession,
but the bottom line is that a lawyer “might” be able to have this
matter settled to the satisfaction of all involved and keep you from
having to pay a huge fine or have something derogatory added to your
record.

CON – LAWYER

They are expensive, as you well know by now. In addition, there’s no
guarantee that you won’t have to pay a lawyer $900 and then end up
paying a big fine anyway (plus court costs – which can sometimes equal
or exceed the amount of the fine). To add to this you must trust that
your lawyer will do what he/she is expected to do. Occasionally,
lawyers find themselves inundated with cases and are forced to
postpone hearings until a later date. This can be time consuming as
well as frustrating, but the tradeoff for having experienced
representation is often worth the headache.

PRO – PRO SE

Obviously, you will save a fairly sizeable sum of money by appearing
in court without counsel. Often times you will even be able to say
things that you otherwise would be unable to say because your lawyer
would be speaking in your behalf. A reasonable appeal in laymen’s
terms sometimes does the trick and achieves what you are hoping to
achieve. Unlike Circuit Courts and Chancery Courts, Traffic Courts,
Municipal Courts or District Courts (The Fairfax County General
District Court is how it is refereed to in your area) normally don’t
require you to have a lawyer when you appear unless you just feel you
should have one. If you are not opposed to speaking publicly and can
intelligently verbalize what you want to make known, you should have
no problem doing this.

CON – PRO SE

It has been said that a man who represents himself in court has a fool
for a client. If you appear without counsel you may find yourself in
over your head or you might make an error that causes the court to
impose a punishment far greater than you might have received had you
chose an attorney to represent you.

Having said all that (and let me preface this by saying we cannot
offer legal advise in this forum) you “can” appeal to the court to
suspend your case pending the completion of a defensive driving
course. Often times a court will willingly allow a defendant to attend
an 8 hr defensive driving course on their first offense in lieu of
punishment and agree to “no pros” (not prosecute) the case if you (1)
complete the course, and (2) refrain from violating the law for a
specified period of time, such as 6 months. This achieves a number of
things, not the least of which is protecting your driving record from
derogatory history, keeping your insurance rates affordable and of
course, keeping relatively minor cases from jamming up the already
taxed judicial system.

If you choose to appear “pro se”, or even if you choose to retain a
lawyer for that matter, you should take this into consideration. When
you appear before the Judge simply ask him/her if you can attend a
defensive driving course to remove points from your record and keep
this matter from ending up there. Chances are good that he/she will
agree to this arrangement. If you plan to plead not guilty and have a
hearing (be prepared, because the officer will appear to testify
against you) it would be wise to have counsel.

Here is a huge directory of defensive driving options in your area:

THE DEFENSIVE DRIVING SCHOOL
http://www.drivingdirectory.com/va2.htm

If you plan to appear without counsel, it might do you well to read
this document first:

"Administrative Procedures of the Fairfax County General District
Court Governing Court Practice and Procedures"
http://www.co.fairfax.va.us/courts/gendist/admin.pdf
(You can also obtain a hardcopy of this from the General District
Court's divisional clerk's offices in the Judicial Center)


I hope you find that that my research exceeds your expectations. If
you have any questions about my research please post a clarification
request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise I welcome your rating
and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again
in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us.

Best regards;
Tutuzdad-ga



INFORMATION SOURCES

THE DEFENSIVE DRIVING SCHOOL
http://www.drivingdirectory.com/va2.htm

GENERAL DISTRICT COURT – FAIRFAX COUNTY VIRGINIA
http://www.co.fairfax.va.us/courts/gendist/homepage.htm


SEARCH STRATEGY


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Google ://www.google.com


SEARCH TERMS USED:

“DEFENSIVE DRIVING” “FAIRFAX VA”

TRAFFIC COURT FAIRFAX VA

Request for Answer Clarification by jkrech17-ga on 20 Aug 2003 18:17 PDT
Hi!

Thanks for all your good advice and I just have a few clarification
questions.  How would penalties against my license such as suspension
be handled by the judge and does a Virginia judge have the authority
to suspend/revoke my Florida license?  Also, would I ask that I attend
a driving class in Virginia or Florida?  When appering before the
judge, are you able to state your case before the plea or would I plea
not guilty to the charge then explain?  Also, if he does not offer to
reduce any of the charges can I plea not guilty then obtain the
services of an attorney?  Thanks again!

Clarification of Answer by tutuzdad-ga on 20 Aug 2003 20:32 PDT
Dear jkrech17-ga:

“How would penalties against my license such as suspension be handled
by the judge..?”
My experience is that a first offense normally doesn’t result in a
suspension. A fine, or even a hefty fine perhaps along with several
derogatory points on your driving record would be a more likely
scenario if you are convicted.

RECKLESS DRIVING - PENALTIES
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-868

But let me say that the penalty for a Class 1 misdemeanor such a
reckless driving CAN result in a substantial maximum penalty if that
penalty is imposed. This particular site deals with alcohol offenses
in Virgina, but they too are Class 1 misdemeanors. Here then is an
example of what can happen to someone convicted of a Class 1
misdemeanor if the Judge “throw the book at you”:

“A Class 1 Misdemeanor and punishable by [up to] a $2,500 fine, [up
to] 12 months in jail, and up to 100 hrs. of community service.”

VIRGINIA TECH ALCOHOL LAWS
http://www.alcohol.vt.edu/Policies/virginiaLaws.htm

“Does a Virginia judge have the authority to suspend/revoke my Florida
license?”

Yes. As mentioned previously in you question here:
http://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=241130
…interstate compact laws provide for this authority. If the Virginia
Judge rules you license is to be suspended, Florida will honor that
decision and suspend your Florida license.

INTERSTATE COMPACTS  
http://www.criminaldefensedenver.com/interstatecompact.htm 
 
  
DEFINING COMPACTS: JURISDICTIONAL AGREEMENTS  
http://www.aamva.org/drivers/mnu_drvCompacts.asp 
 
  
DRIVER LICENSE COMPACT (DLC)  
http://www.aamva.org/drivers/drv_compactsDLC.asp 
  
  
NONRESIDENT VIOLATOR COMPACT (NRVC)  
http://www.aamva.org/drivers/drv_compactsNRVC.asp 
  

“Also, would I ask that I attend a driving class in Virginia or
Florida?”
I would definitely ask to attend a defensive driving school in locally
in Florida if that is where you will be living (these are sometimes
called “Traffic Schools” or “Ticket Schools”). You should be able to
send proof of compliance to the Virginia court by mailing your
certificate of completion to them via standard postal mail.

Search: “defensive driving” Florida 


“When appearing before the judge, are you able to state your case
before the plea or would I plea not guilty to the charge then
explain?”
This is difficult to answer and depends largely upon the Judge. In
some cases you can meet with the Prosecuting Attorney just before your
hearing and make the arrangements with him/her. The Prosecutor will
then be the one to advise the Judge of the agreement and indicate that
he/she is in favor of it. This is sort of a “plea bargain” between you
and the Prosecutor. On the other hand, if you enter a not guilty plea,
the Judge may have you return on another day for a hearing on the
matter. On the other hand, you can plea no contest, meaning you do not
admit guilt but will not fight the state’s position that you violated
the law, then ask for a special arrangement such as defensive driving
school. Unfortunately, I cannot, by policy, advise you which route is
best for you to take. Finally, if you enter a guilt plea, you may be
able to ask the judge if you can make a statement, at which time you
can ask the Judge if he/she would be in favor of a defensive driving
course in lieu of a conviction. But by pleading guilty you are
admitting your guilt run the risk of being convicted of the offense if
the Judge decides against the plea bargain you propose.

“Also, if he does not offer to reduce any of the charges can I plea
not guilty then obtain the services of an attorney?”
The Judge will not “offer to reduce the charges”. He/she might see fit
to “nol pros” your case if you humbly request it and then comply with
the instructions (such as a defensive driving school) but this only
happens after you provide proof that you have complied. The court
reserves the right to convict you of the offense for up to one year –
but the upshot here is that it should not appear on your driving
record until such time as you are convicted.

I hope this clarifies my answer for you. I look forward to your rating
and your future questions.

Regards;
Tutuzdad-ga
jkrech17-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars

Comments  
Subject: Re: Reckless Driving General - Do I need a lawyer?
From: dancethecon-ga on 20 Aug 2003 17:01 PDT
 
Hi, jkrech17,

Tutuzdad gave lots of good advice, especially the pros and cons of
defending yourself.

I'm not a lawyer, but I have a couple points to add:

1. What would the penalties be if you were found guilty in court? Can
you handle those (points and money)? I'm assuming that this citation
would not result in either a lost license or jail time.

2. If you defend yourself, wouldn't the commonwealth attorney than
have to communicate with you? You might try this route. Then if the
prosecutor isn't open and helpful, you could hire an attorney after
you know what the state's position is. I once had a citation cancelled
after speaking to a Connecticut prosecutor (I didn't have to say I was
representing myself, he was happy to communicate with me).

3. From my experience, you can hire an attorney for advice only,
paying the attorney's regular hourly fee. You'd get good advice
without being obligated for the full I'll-represent-you fee. You can
ask beforehand if this hour's time would then be applied to the full
representation fee if you were to decide to hire the lawyer for the
full defense. (I'd guess it would, but that's just my opinion, and
it'd probably depend on the lawyer.)

Best of luck. I, too, would hate to be prosecuted for something like
you're facing, especially if I were innocent.
Subject: Re: Reckless Driving General - Do I need a lawyer?
From: steph1000-ga on 21 Aug 2003 00:10 PDT
 
In addition, I would attend court to see how the other cases are handled.
Subject: Re: Reckless Driving General - Do I need a lawyer?
From: expertlaw-ga on 23 Aug 2003 12:06 PDT
 
Dear jkrech17,

Here in Michigan, somebody arrested (or issued a ticket to appear in
court) for a traffic misdemeanor would ordinarily have an initial
arraignment (a formal reading of the charge), at which time a pretrial
hearing would be scheduled. Typically, no prosecutor is present at the
arraignment, but there is a prosecutor available at the pretrial
(usually harried, working through a big stack of files). The
prosecutor at that time will typically offer a plea bargain. Depending
upon the prosecutor and local policies, it may be possible to
negotiate a deal where a traffic misdemeanor is dropped, in exchange
for a plea to a civil infraction.

What some people do, often after an initial consultation with a
lawyer, is appear at the pretrial by themselves. If they like the plea
offer at that time (such as the substitution of a civil infraction for
the misdemeanor or, if their record is really bad, a cap on the fine
and a "no jail" guarantee), they take it, pay a fine and get some
points on their license, but avoid the attorney fee. If the person
wants to check back with the lawyer to see if the prosecutor's office
is good enough, most of the time the prosecutor is happy to schedule
the case for a plea hearing in advance of a scheduled trial date.

I suggest you contact a Virginia lawyer who handles traffic defense,
and ask about local policies and procedures. The same type of approach
may work for you in that state.
Subject: Re: Reckless Driving General - Do I need a lawyer?
From: boselawfirmattorney-ga on 18 Jan 2005 09:28 PST
 
To answer the query directly, prosecutors in Fairfax County do not
speak with unreprested defendants.  Therefore the letters will not be
read nor responded to.  However, letters to the Judge will be read
during the case in chief.

There is no plea bargaining with the Judge, however, as the Judge will
review the evidence only during the case to determine guilt and
possibly sentencing in the event of a guilty finding.

Should you desire to review the ramifications of Virginia reckless driving, read:

http://www.boselawfirm.com/rd.html

and

http://www.vatrafficlaw.com/reckless.html

Both of these articles are content oriented.  Both are from a law firm
with unequivocal experience in reckless driving cases and deal with
all aspects of reckless driving, ramifications upon conviction, and
collateral issues inclusive of security clearances.

BOSE LAW FIRM, PLLC
By: Sudeep Bose
Former Police and Investigators
Subject: Re: Reckless Driving General - Do I need a lawyer?
From: boselawfirmattorney-ga on 18 Jan 2005 09:40 PST
 
To answer your queries jkrech17, I have attached the answer below your
specific queries:

1. What would the penalties be if you were found guilty in court? Can
you handle those (points and money)? I'm assuming that this citation
would not result in either a lost license or jail time.

Reckless driving in Virginia is a class one misdemeanor criminal
offense.  The parameters of sentencing are up to one year in jail
and/or up to $2500 in fines and/or up to six months loss of license.

Indeed, many unsuspecting persons end up with a conviction and then
collateral issues several years down the line.  You cannot be a police
officer in Virginia with a reckless driving charge on the record. 
This is also an issue with other state police departments and similar
law enforcement positions.  I have posted on
http://www.vatrafficlaw.com some of the email I have received through
the years on persons attempting post conviction remedies because of
collateral issues stemming from Virginia reckless driving convictions.


2. If you defend yourself, wouldn't the commonwealth attorney than
have to communicate with you? You might try this route. Then if the
prosecutor isn't open and helpful, you could hire an attorney after
you know what the state's position is. I once had a citation cancelled
after speaking to a Connecticut prosecutor (I didn't have to say I was
representing myself, he was happy to communicate with me).

Virginia jurisdictions are distinct in this regard.  In Fairfax
County, prosecutors will not deal with unrepresented parties.  Indeed,
the Assistant Commonwealth Attorney will not prosecute the case.  This
means that the defendant has one bite at the proverbial apple - the
Judge.  Strategically, I cannot understand why people continue to
represent themselves in Fairfax County - the result is often an appeal
due to the person being completely overtaken and surprised by the
sentence upon a finding of guilt.

3. From my experience, you can hire an attorney for advice only,
paying the attorney's regular hourly fee. You'd get good advice
without being obligated for the full I'll-represent-you fee. You can
ask beforehand if this hour's time would then be applied to the full
representation fee if you were to decide to hire the lawyer for the
full defense. (I'd guess it would, but that's just my opinion, and
it'd probably depend on the lawyer.)

This may make some sense in certain contexts, however, with the wealth
of materials written by competent attorneys, one can gather a fairly
condensed knowledge base of Virginia reckless driving without
consulting an attorney.

BOSE LAW FIRM, PLLC
By: Sudeep Bose
Former police and investigators
http://www.vatrafficlaw.com
http://www.boselawfirm.com

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