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Subject: Heavy Manufacturers
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: flymike-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 23 Aug 2003 12:28 PDT
Expires: 22 Sep 2003 12:28 PDT
Question ID: 247988
I am looking for a detailed, current list of heavy manufacturers in
the US, each with 50 employees or more. I have found partial lists and
web advertisements with lists and info from your previous answer to a
similar question (Jul 26,03) but nothing I can use with accurate
employee size, contact info, mailing addresses, websites, etc. all in
one list. Thank you.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 23 Aug 2003 13:43 PDT
Hello there flymike.

I just want to clarify what you're after.  There are many services
that sell mailing lists with the type of information you're after.

Are you looking for an answer that would steer you to the existing
list providers, so that you can then purchase the list you need?  If
so, we can probably help you out?

On the other hand, if you're looking for us to provide an actual list
as an answer, this is more difficult, and may not even be possible.

Please give us a bit more detail about what you need, and what your
expecting for an answer, so that we can best serve your needs.

Thanks.

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by flymike-ga on 26 Aug 2003 08:22 PDT
pafalafa-ga:

The answer is yes, and yes. What I was hoping for was an inexpensvive,
seamless way to come up with this list. If that looks unlikely, then
the "list providers" will most likely be the way to go. Thanks

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 26 Aug 2003 09:22 PDT
Flymike,

Thanks for getting back to me.  We'll probably have to walk through
the process a step at a time before I know just what you want, and
you're clear on what I can provide.

I have at my disposal a national list that can easily provide
information that looks like this [the formatting of the table probably
won't survive the posting process very well, so my apologies in
advance for that]:

MADISON INDS. INC   OLD WATERWORKS RD. P.O. BOX 175  OLD
BRIDGE	MIDDLESEX	NJ 	'08857'

SOLUTIA INC.	3000 OLD CHEMSTRAND RD.	CANTONMENT	ESCAMBIA	FL 	'32533'

BASF CORP.	602 COPPER RD.	FREEPORT	BRAZORIA	TX 	'77541'

SOLUTIA CHOCOLATE BAYOU	FM 2917	ALVIN	BRAZORIA	TX 	'77511'

BP CHEMICALS INC.	1900 FORT AMANDA RD.	LIMA	ALLEN	OH 	'45805'

BP CHEMICALS GREEN LAKE FACILITY	TEXAS HWY. 185	PORT LAVACA	CALHOUN	TX
	'77979'

DU PONT DELISLE PLANT	7685 KILN-DELISLE RD.	PASS CHRISTIAN	HARRISON	MS
	'39571'

DU PONT JOHNSONVILLE PLANT	1 DU PONT RD.	NEW JOHNSONVILLE	HUMPHREYS	TN
	'37134'

CYTEC INDS. INC. FORTIER PLANT	10800 RIVER RD.	WESTWEGO	JEFFERSON	LA
	'70094'

MONSANTO LULING	12501 RIVER RD.	LULING	ST CHARLES	LA 	'70070'


For each company, you can then click on a link (this has to be done
manually) for additional information.  For instance, clicking on
"Solutia" gets you to:


SOLUTIA INC. 
3000 OLD CHEMSTRAND RD. CANTONMENT, FL 32533 
County: ESCAMBIA 
Contact: SHEILA P. NICHOLS 
Phone Number: 850 968-8761  
 
Latitude: 30-35-28  
Longitude: 87-14-25  
Parent Company Name: SOLUTIA INC.  
Parent Company Dun and Bradstreet: 040853731  

------------------------

There are a few things about this list to note carefully:

1.  These are individual facilities -- not company HQ.  Is this what
you need, or are you looking only for parent company (corporate
headquarters) information.

2.  There is no employee size information included, but these are all
sizable facilities, and can be ranked, roughly, from largest to
smallest if you want.  Facilities are only included if they have 10 or
more employees.

3.  There are no web addresses either for the individual facilities.

4.  The list above is from a master list of *chemical manufacturers*. 
You can also access lists for all heavy manufacturing companies
according to SIC code:  pulp and paper, petroleum, metals, machinery,
mining....you name it.

4.  To clarify, the list of names and addresses can be downloaded into
a data file...there are about 25,000 facilities in the database.   
But to get to the additional information (contact person, phone
number, etc) you need to manually access the data on the web, one
company at a time.

I hope I've explained this clearly.  Let me know if I should post the
details about accessing this list as an answer to your question.  But
if it doesn't meet your needs, let me know why, and I'll see what
other options may be available.

paf

Clarification of Question by flymike-ga on 26 Aug 2003 16:29 PDT
Paf:

I am impresssd with where you are going. Let me tell you the purpose
of my question, which may help you. I am an industrial r.e. broker and
I specialize in relocating and developing plant sites for industrial
users. I have been hired to sell the remaining asset of a "heavy"
industrial user; the asset is a 200,000 sq. ft manufacturing facility
on substanial acreage. This is a "special use" category. We call it a
"work out" because industrial users for this type facility are really
hard to find, almost nonexistent; most of which are now off shore.
It's previous use was light steel and metal fabrication. So, I thought
before we throw our collective hands up in the air and bulldoze the
site away and sell it for the land value, I thought I'd try to locate
some entities that might have an interest...who knows?

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 26 Aug 2003 16:59 PDT
Thanks for the kind words.

But I have to ask...now what?

I can't really offer any advice about selling your property...that's
your field of expertise, and I doubt I could anything useful.

But if you're looking for other facilities to contact. I have a list
of 25,000 I can offer, and they can be narrowed down by zip code,
county, state, SIC code...even types of chemicals in use.

Let me know if you want me to answer your question by (a) extracting a
particular mailing list for you, like all facilities in NJ, or all
metal fabricators in the US, or (b) give you detailed instructions for
accessing the full list for yourself, or (c) both (a) and (b).

Up to you.  I'll look forward to your next post.

paf

Clarification of Question by flymike-ga on 26 Aug 2003 17:41 PDT
Paf:

Now I am in your area of expertise (just a little and misguided most
likely!)...I have been through "infoUSA" (I have the current PowerBiz
CDs), "Site Do Do Business" on CCIMnet (which I pay a hefty fee each
year) and similar sites, but I have found nothing that gives me a
seamless entry...meaning that I have to click on another field, then
click on another field, then on to another to find the salient info on
a paticular plant or facility. It's like a Milton Bradley game by the
time I am done and maybe I have 6 entities after about 40 minutes of
hunting around. But this is your area of expertise... I am ready to
learn something, so I will bite...how about a partial list from column
a) (just to see the "output" of the data) and "all" from column b)....
hey, I'm going to have to get my hands dirty some time!
Thanks...flymike

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 27 Aug 2003 13:14 PDT
Hello again, flymike,

Thanks for your last note.

Let's try this.  I ran a "Column A" dataset of all facilities in the
US belonging to SIC code 34 (metal fabricating) and SIC code 35
(machinery), and came up with a list of about 4,000 plants throughout
the US.  These are all heavy duty metals/machinery facilities.

Here's the first 25 on the list:

1	KRACK CORP.	401 S. ROHLWING RD.	ADDISON	DU PAGE	IL 	'60101'
2	BWX TECHS. INC.	1570 MOUNT ATHOS RD.	LYNCHBURG	LYNCHBURG CITY	VA
	'24504'
3	REGAL WARE	201 SECOND ST.	KEWASKUM	WASHINGTON	WI 	'53040'
4	METALPLATE GALVANIZING L.P.	10625 NEEDHAM ST.	HOUSTON	HARRIS	TX
	'77013'
5	UNION ELECTRIC STEEL CORP.	RTE. 18	BURGETTSTOWN	WASHINGTON	PA
	'15021'
6	BALL METAL BEVERAGE CONTAINER CORP.	12340 TOWNSHIP RD. 99
E.	FINDLAY	HANCOCK	OH 	'45840'
7	MCLAREN PERFORMANCE TECHS.	32233 W. EIGHT MILE RD.	LIVONIA	WAYNE	MI
	'48152'
8	HIGH STEEL STRUCTURES INC.	GREENFIELD RD. & RTE.
340	LANCASTER	LANCASTER	PA 	'17605'
9	REXAM BEVERAGE CAN CO. WINSTON SALEM PLANT	4000 OLD MILWAUKEE
LN.	WINSTON-SALEM	FORSYTH	NC 	'27107'
10	BALL METAL BEVERAGE CONTAINER CORP.	8935 POCAHONTAS
TRAIL	WILLIAMSBURG	WILLIAMSBURG CITY	VA 	'23185'
11	BABCOCK BORSIG POWER	1500 CASCADE ST.	ERIE	ERIE	PA 	'16502'
12	REXAM BEVERAGE CAN CO. FREMONT PLANT	2145 CEDAR	FREMONT	SANDUSKY	OH
	'43420'
13	MERCHANTS METALS	165 FANJOY RD.	STATESVILLE	IREDELL	NC 	'28625'
14	PLASTENE SUPPLY CO.	101 MEATTE ST.	PORTAGEVILLE	NEW MADRID	MO
	'63873'
15	JORGENSEN FORGE CORP.	8531 E. MARGINAL WAY S.	TUKWILA	KING	WA
	'98108'
16	JOHN DEERE DUBUQUE WORKS	18600 S. JOHN DEERE RD.	DUBUQUE	DUBUQUE	IA
	'52001'
17	METAL CONTAINER CORP.   COLUMBUS	350 MCCORMICK
BLVD.	COLUMBUS	FRANKLIN	OH 	'43213'
18	TRW INC. VALVE DIV.	1455 E. 185TH ST.	CLEVELAND	CUYAHOGA	OH
	'44110'
19	STANLEY HOME AUTOMATION INC.	7300 REAMES
RD.	CHARLOTTE	MECKLENBURG	NC 	'28216'
20	REXAM BEVERAGE CAN CO. WHITEHOUSE PLANT	10444
WATERVILLE	WHITEHOUSE	LUCAS	OH 	'43571'
21	STANLEY DOOR SYS. WINCHESTER	985 E. BROOKE
RD.	WINCHESTER	WINCHESTER CITY	VA 	'22603'
22	WALBRIDGE COATINGS INC.	30610 E. BROADWAY	WALBRIDGE	WOOD	OH
	'43465'
23	GKN SINTER METALS EMPORIUM CAMERON ROAD FACILITY	CAMERON
RD.	EMPORIUM	CAMERON	PA 	'15834'
24	WISE ALLOYS L.L.C. SHEFFIELD PLANT	501 W. 20TH
AVE.	SHEFFIELD	COLBERT	AL 	'35660'
25	ABLE ELECTRO POLISHING	2001 S. KILBOURN AVE.	CHICAGO	COOK	IL
	'60623'

----------------------------

and here's a link to a spreadsheet file (comma delimited) with the
full 4,000:

http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/users/25c313b0/bc/google/testfile.csv?bfzNRT_AgnsYK7Ab

[I haven't tried the Yahoo links before to transfer a file -- keep
your fingers crossed that it works]

---------------------------

If this looks promising, let me know, and I can post information to
get you the full data set as an answer to your question.

If you run into any problems with the links, etc. let me know that as
well, and I'm sure I can find a workaround.

Cheers.

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by flymike-ga on 27 Aug 2003 15:07 PDT
pafalafa:

Yes, what you've done looks very good! Lets go forward and post the
info as the answer to my question. Is there any way to determine:
1)contacts and 2)size of company? Thanks!..flymike.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Heavy Manufacturers
Answered By: pafalafa-ga on 28 Aug 2003 12:32 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello again flymike,

Most manufacturing facilities of any significant size have to file
annual reporting forms with the Environmental Protection Agency. 
These forms create a large database that is publicly accessible and
easily sortable by state, industry type, or other categories.
									
I decided against uploading the full database of facilities for you to
download (as we did with the metal finishers).  The file would be too
big to do this in an easy fashion.  I thought instead I would show you
how to create a file yourself, that you can download directly to your
computer.

HOWEVER, if you decide you’d rather I create the file, just let me
know, and we’ll figure out some convenient way to transfer it.  Just
post a Request for Clarification letting me know your preferences, and
I’m more than happy to oblige.

-------------------------------

As for the database itself, go the EPA’s webpage for the TRI Explorer
at:

http://www.epa.gov/triexplorer/

On the left hand side of the page, click on the link for “Facility”.

On the right hand side of the page that materializes, de-select all
the boxes under the heading of “Releases” (air, water, etc).

Click on “Generate Report” on the left-hand side.  

This will create a table labelled:

“TRI On-site and Off-site Reported Releases (in pounds), Top 100
Facilities (of 24,896), for facilities in All Industries, for All
Chemicals, U.S., 2001”

Immediately underneath this label is a box...type in the word “ALL”to
create a record of all 24,896 facilities -- be patient, it takes a
minute or two.

In time, you’ll get a list of all 24,896 facilities.   There are two
things to note about this list:

1.  On the right-hand side of the page is a column for “Total On-sit
and Off-site Releases”.   This is the amount of pollution each
facility is reporting to EPA and it is a pretty good proxy for
facility size -- the facilities at the top of the list are large, and
they generally get smaller as you get towards the bottom.  There is no
"number of employee" info in the system, so this is the closest I can
get you to employee size.

2.  Click on any facility name, and you’ll get additional information,
including a contact name and phone number.

Towards the very bottom of the page (well past the bottom of the list
itself) is a download button:

“Export this report to a text file  --  Create comma-separated values,
compatible with spreadsheet and databases.”

Click on “Download” to create a database file (just like the one I
gave you earlier) of all the records.

-----------------------------------

The fly in the ointment for all this, of course, is that you have to
click on individual records to get contact information.

The only way to get around this is to have EPA itself generate a
datafile for you with the full contact information -- contact person,
facility name, mailing address and phone number -- for each facility
in the database.  I believe they are obligated to do this for you
under the Freedom of Information Act, but be forewarned, it can take a
while for them to actually get you the data.

If you want to go this route, click the “Contact Us” button at the top
of the page, and send them a note laying out in detail what
information you want.  They should contact you in about ten days or
say to let you know the status of your request.

-----------------------------------

I hope this meets your needs.  This has been an interesting challenge,
so thanks for the opportunity of working on it.  If anything here
needs elaboration -- or if there is any problem at all creating the
database -- just let me know, and I’ll be glad to assist you further.

pafalafa-ga
flymike-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $20.00
Lot of detail in this answer that I will sort out. It is a challenge!
Keep up the good work. I will probably be back at you with another
queston or two...but great job! Only in America...freedom of
information is a great thing, but using it productively is even a
greater thing!Thanks...Flymike

Comments  
Subject: Re: Heavy Manufacturers
From: pafalafa-ga on 29 Aug 2003 19:26 PDT
 
Hey flymike,

Thanks so much for your generousity -- with both your words and your
wallet!  It's much appreciated.  Hope we'll see you back here one day
soon.  And good luck with your property.

paf

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