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Subject:
Trouble with Apple customer service : how can I get to the "higher ups"?
Category: Computers Asked by: rosalind-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
28 Aug 2003 17:04 PDT
Expires: 09 Sep 2003 23:16 PDT Question ID: 249980 |
I have a problem with my new Powerbook G4. It's a subtle problem, and I (and my sysadmin) have traced it to a hardware fault in the ethernet chips. It doesn't stop my machine working, but it reduces the functionality. However, Apple is being VERY uncooperative in helping me. I called the support line, and after an hour of me explaining the problem to a customer service rep, I was transferred to an "engineer." Now the engineer is asking me to do a huge amount of testing on my machine, and answer a huge number of (mostly) useless questions, most of which I've already answered before. I paid >$2700 for this machine. I've been a loyal Apple customer for over a decade. I've been sold a defective machine, and they won't replace it. What I want to know is this: how can I get in touch with someone with the authority to order a replacement machine (or motherboard -- that's all that needs to be replaced.) I've already spoken to the customer rep, and to the apple engineer. Preferrably this would be someone keen to appease a disappointed customer who's spent >$10,000 on Apple over the years. When my father was alive, he used to own a fancy sportscar. He was having trouble getting parts for it at his local dealer, and finally looked up the CEO's name in the phonebook and wrote him a letter; the new parts arrived in a week. This is the kind of solution I'm looking for here, although I know that Steve Jobs isn't in the phone book and probably (?) won't read my mail. Please have some experience (preferrably, you work/worked there) with Apple & its tech support, so you know what the hierarchy is and how I can navigate it. For good answers I tip well. |
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Re: Trouble with Apple customer service : how can I get to the "higher ups"?
From: supermacman-ga on 28 Aug 2003 21:58 PDT |
Do you have AppleCare? If so, you can tell Apple this and they will give you an easier time. You can also try going to your local Apple retailer and complaining. |
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Re: Trouble with Apple customer service : how can I get to the "higher ups"?
From: rosalind-ga on 28 Aug 2003 22:39 PDT |
I don't have Apple Care, although I don't think it's relevant in this case (the ethernet was DOA.) I bought this online from Apple, not at a retailer. Will they still help me? |
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Re: Trouble with Apple customer service : how can I get to the "higher ups"?
From: patroclus-ga on 08 Sep 2003 11:29 PDT |
I bought a powebook G4 also. The logic board was defective from day one; after speaking to about four people, they replaced it. Problems persisted, and after numerous phone calls, emails, and letters, they've finally agreed to replace the unit (after almost a month and a half of frustration). I've spoken to a number of people who have dealt with 100s (sometimes 1000s) of machines and they've all lamented Apple's sorry reputation when it comes to defective products----its apparently very hard to get anything. Anyway, here are the 'higher ups' I've dealt with and their contact info: If you live in Canada, Gail Bartlett is manager of customer relations (and has the authority to replace). 905.513.5809 or bartlett.g@apple.com. In the states, Amy Angenelli is somewhere up the ladder in what they call Executive Relarions. 408.974.9293 Their supervisor is Jeanne Toulouse. Everyone I've spoken to has refused to give me her email or phone (to discourage us from trying I suspect), but her mailing address is Apple Computer Attn. Jeanne Toulouse-- Senior Director of World-Wide Customer Care 1 Infinite Loop Cupertino, CA 95014 Good Luck, I expect (unfortunately) that you'll need it. |
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Re: Trouble with Apple customer service : how can I get to the "higher ups"?
From: rosalind-ga on 09 Sep 2003 09:25 PDT |
Thank you very much for your response! I'll give it a shot. I'm very surprised by Apple's bad reputation in this area. It's quite disappointing coming from a company that I otherwise have respect for. |
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Re: Trouble with Apple customer service : how can I get to the "higher ups"?
From: hlabadie-ga on 09 Sep 2003 11:25 PDT |
I can only add that this phenomenon (Apple's poor response to defective products) was the object of a complaint by no less a person than Steve Wozniak. In an interview that he gave to MacAddict (June 1997), he noted that he typically bought 50 of any new product sold by Apple for the sole purpose of checking the quality. If he found a problem, it would usually be replicated in every one of the machines he had purchased, and Apple could not claim that he had got, in effect, a "bad Apple." He also complained that it took months for Apple to fix returned machines. hlabadie-ga |
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Re: Trouble with Apple customer service : how can I get to the "higher ups"?
From: rosalind-ga on 09 Sep 2003 23:16 PDT |
Thanks very much to everyone who answered my question; it seems that Apple's problem is not limited to me alone. Perhaps any Apple execs reading this might take a hint? |
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