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Subject:
mail server
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: nestormakhno-ga List Price: $50.00 |
Posted:
31 Aug 2003 10:52 PDT
Expires: 30 Sep 2003 10:52 PDT Question ID: 250791 |
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Subject:
Re: mail server
From: snsh-ga on 31 Aug 2003 12:45 PDT |
your ISP doesn't supply you with an SMTP server? usually those servers are totally open. |
Subject:
Re: mail server
From: hobbes1220-ga on 31 Aug 2003 13:17 PDT |
Hi, nestormakhno. There are lots of companies that will sell you SMTP service. But, what kind of mail are you trying to send? How much mail? Most service providers will refuse to let you send spam, and, if you're looking for high volume, (thousands of messages a day,) that will cost more. "This server must permit me to send to any email address, from any email address" That's a lot to ask of a service provider.. Maybe you should run your own smtp server. It's very easy. But, make sure that you don't violate your ISPs Terms Of Service. And, again, if you're doing spam, you have to worry about getting blacklisted... |
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Re: mail server
From: nestormakhno-ga on 01 Sep 2003 03:30 PDT |
snsh-ga: the mail servers that I have access to (through domain registrations and work) are not totally open. They require a username and password, and ColdFusion will not support the provision of these when executing the tag <CFMAIL>. |
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Re: mail server
From: nestormakhno-ga on 01 Sep 2003 03:42 PDT |
hobbes1220-ga: If there are lots of companies that will sell me SMTP service, I just wish to know who they are. When searching on SMTP related products, all that I can find is SMTP server software, not provision. The volume of mail is unimportant to me. I would not envisage sending thousands of messages per day, but am happy to pay for access to high volume traffic if this becomes necessary. The messages will not be spam. The <CFMAIL> tag in ColdFusion, which I wish to use, will permit any address in the to and from fields of a sent email. I do not think that allowing this functionality will be too much to ask of a service provider. You suggested that I run my own STMP server. This is my preferred option. My server came with factory installed software (Win 2k), including a virtual SMTP server which did not require configuration. My internet server works fine but when I attempt to send mail with the SMTP server the mail just gets stuck in the /inetpub/mailroot/queue folder. After searching the relevant groups, this seems to be the commonest problem with MS virtual SMTP server, and the problem does not seem to be adequately answered. I and others have looked at my computer over the last month, and cannot get the SMTP services to run. I have given up hope, and decided that the easiest solution is to purchase this service, but I don't know where to. Thanks for your comment. Nestor |
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Re: mail server
From: legolas-ga on 01 Sep 2003 10:54 PDT |
You may be interested in one of my previous answers. Send emails with Win 2000 SMTP Server http://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=133192 It covers how to setup and use Windows 2000's built in SMTP server and also free third-party SMTP servers. It's not quite an answer to your question, so, I'm posting it only as a comment. But, if it the information proves to be a satisfactory answer to your question, let me know and I can always re-post it here as an official "answer". Thanks, Legolas-ga |
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Re: mail server
From: nestormakhno-ga on 02 Sep 2003 04:33 PDT |
Thank you, but sorry, as you have stated, this is not an answer to my question. I followed instructions as to configuring the Win2k SMTP server and ran against the same problem: mail stuck in queue. Of note is the fact that I have had the SMTP server configured correctly before, ColdFusion has been able to send emails, and after a period of weeks the whole thing crashed. I am not satisfied with the stability of this software, and even were I able to configure it, I would not wish to use it. I am seeking a professional solution, and as such do not wish to run free software on my internet server. To clarify, I want an SMTP server which will accept mail from my IP number. Regards, Judas. |
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Re: mail server
From: nestormakhno-ga on 02 Sep 2003 15:58 PDT |
Sorry, was sober when posting my last comment, and it seems a little unpolite. Thank you Legolas for your useful suggestions. Really need an answer to this one so have upped the remuneration on it to $50. I really think that were a company to provide this service it would be two minutes work for hundreds of dollars, but just can't find it. Have found http://www.smtp.com/ but this seems to be for personal users, rather than business. "Magnanimous Despair alone Could show me so divine a thing, Where feeble Hope could ne'er have flown But vainly flapped its tinsel wing." Andrew Marvell (1621-1678) This is how I feel on this one. |
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Re: mail server
From: hobbes1220-ga on 02 Sep 2003 23:55 PDT |
I found this: http://www.electricmail.com/ "The Electric Mail Company. Email. Any way you want." "We develop and deliver customized, outsourced email solutions for both hosted and gateway clients, with seamless integration into existing systems." Hmm, they promise seamless intergration.. Well, tell them that your current system requires an smtp server that works without authentication. This service seems expensive though. My advice, get a shell account. Find a kinda small time shell admin, tell her what you need, and ask her how much a month it will cost you. First thing she'll ask is, "Why do you need this, are you going to spam?" You might suggest to said admin that you're willing to pay for your own IP, so that if you get blacklisted, it won't affect the shell provider's own mail services. The second question the admin will ask is how many emails per day. .. This must be known in advance, so the provider knows how much to charge you. =) One thousand 10KiB emails a day = 300MiB of server traffic per month. I know a shell admin that can provide this service. He would appreciate me bringing him a customer. =) He's no different than 10000 other shell/web/email providers, but if you want to use him, I can provide the contact information. Maybe $15-20/month? Assuming that you are low-traffic, so that you don't impact the system in any profound way. Or maybe electricmail.com will work. There's other email service providers listed here: http://directory.google.com/Top/Business/Business_Services/Communications/Mail_Services/Email_Services/ Hope this helps, hope I'm not just re-covering ground you've already been over. =) |
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Re: mail server
From: nestormakhno-ga on 03 Sep 2003 04:16 PDT |
Thank you for your advice Hobbes. Electricmail.com doesn't seem to provide what I need. If you could let me have contact details for the shell admin service that you mentioned, this should answer my question. $15 to $20 per month seems reasonable. Thanks. |
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Re: mail server
From: hobbes1220-ga on 03 Sep 2003 12:46 PDT |
Hi, nestormakhno. Here's the contact info you requested. http://www.whaddu.com Take a look at the site. They are a web/shell provider. I asked the admin about the smtp access you need, and he said "we should be able to do that" and "tell em to contact us...". Tell him that hobbes sent you. There ya go! =) Hmm, they have a stupid 'contact' page. I'll give you his real email address instead. ;) adamisp at whaddu`com. Hope this helps. .. I don't know how to post an answer, I think that I'm not registered for that.. I'll look into it. |
Subject:
Re: mail server
From: nestormakhno-ga on 03 Sep 2003 14:37 PDT |
Hobbes is a leviathan. |
Subject:
Re: mail server
From: hobbes1220-ga on 05 Sep 2003 00:03 PDT |
I don't get it. ;P Hmm, given my name, your use of the word must carry more than just that I'm a big dumb beast. Unfortunately, I haven't read the work. =( |
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Re: mail server
From: nestormakhno-ga on 05 Sep 2003 05:21 PDT |
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=leviathan&r=67 Meanings one and two. Hobbes described the state as a leviathan. Not necessarily pejorative, meant as a compliment. |
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Re: mail server
From: nestormakhno-ga on 05 Sep 2003 16:41 PDT |
Hobbes, your man from whaddu has replied to a mail, and all looks good. You said: "Hope this helps. .. I don't know how to post an answer, I think that I'm not registered for that.. I'll look into it." I would guess, although I am not sure, that I say the question is answered, and tell Google to credit your credit card account (which they have) with the $50. I will do this when the first mail is sent. Thanks again for your help. nestormakhno. |
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Re: mail server
From: nestormakhno-ga on 05 Sep 2003 16:43 PDT |
No, this don't work. Don't know how to answer a question. |
Subject:
Re: mail server
From: hobbes1220-ga on 19 Sep 2003 12:11 PDT |
Is this thing moderated or something? I could have sworn that I made a post here, but I don't see it now. ... --Hobbes1220 |
Subject:
Re: mail server
From: hobbes1220-ga on 19 Sep 2003 12:15 PDT |
The missing post said something to the effect of "Hi, Nestormakhno. I can't register as a Google Researcher at this time, but you can pay me with PayPal (or similar service) if you really want to!" .. Let's see if this post goes missing. .. Maybe I just forgot to click post on the previous one. Dunno. ;) --Hobbes1220 |
Subject:
Re: mail server
From: seth_bienek-ga on 10 Mar 2004 13:52 PST |
You can send email to any server using ColdFusion MX, even if it requires a username and password: <cfmail from="me@myhouse.com" to="you@yourhouse.com" subject="Subject" server="login:password@mail.3rdpartyserver.com"> </cfmail> |
Subject:
Re: mail server
From: seth_bienek-ga on 10 Mar 2004 13:55 PST |
Got cut off there. I was going to say that you can also provide CFMAIL with a comma-seperated list of email servers in the format I provided, and it will go down the list of servers until one accepts an email. Good for redundancy. Just a bonus. :) Seth |
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