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Russian Scams for getting young girls into USA through romance with older US men
Category: Relationships and Society Asked by: valprof-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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31 Aug 2003 13:27 PDT
Expires: 30 Sep 2003 13:27 PDT Question ID: 250837 |
Information on a scam/ fraud -- Russian women ('virgins") who approach male tourists, have affairs, get them to bring them to U.S. later --not mail order brides--real women in Russian cities who approach American men--- how to recognize the fraud. i want reputable articles or advice--not e-mails-- news articles or govt documents, or television news (20-20 or 60 minutes) type of reports concerning this scam. Or first person interviews warnings, on how to recognize the scam, etc. i have checked RussianScam.com and other scam sites to no avail (lots of MAIL ORDER BRIDES) NOT what I want---I want in person approaches |
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Re: Russian Scams for getting young girls into USA through romance with older US men
From: drtandem1-ga on 08 Sep 2003 15:03 PDT |
I know you said you want documentation, not e-mails. That being said, I think it is obvious to most when they are being scammed in such a way. Unfortunately, we often listen to our hearts more than our brains. If you are interested in discovering whether a Russian woman is truly in love with you or just wants an easy ticket to U.S. citizenship, all you need do is tell her you were actually thinking of becoming a citizen of HER country and want to live where she lives. Most likely, she will be gone. An acquaintance of mine went to the Ukraine and met such a woman. He met her family, etc. They made plans for her to come to the United States so they could marry. He produced a photograph of the woman that was absolutely stunning. His looks would remind you of Harpo Marx and he is NOT highly educated, working a trade for a living. He then went on to tell me how she has a degree in this and that ( I can only remember that I was impressed). I commented on how she was very attractive and her educational background was impressive. I then asked him, 'What does she see in you?" |
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Re: Russian Scams for getting young girls into USA through romance with older US
From: valprof-ga on 08 Sep 2003 22:02 PDT |
Actually, this isn't for me, but for a colleague of mine---a 62 year old male professor who is normally intellectually superior, but who confided to me that his "houseguest" was a 25 year old woman he met in Russia who approached him there and for two years she has been trying to get into the USA to visit. Now she is here,(on a 6 month visa) and he says the problem is "she was a virgin, and I cannot bring myself to break up with her because i am the only lover she has had." I do not think he will respect emotional reasoning, but if he saw a newspaper article on this type of scam, or a transcript of a 60 minutes type newsshow, etc. I think he would pay attention to that. After all, professors pay attention to well researched documents. I hate to see him scammed like this. PLEASE somebody out there--can you help me? Thanks, vkg |
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Re: Russian Scams for getting young girls into USA through romance with older US men
From: politicalguru-ga on 09 Sep 2003 01:48 PDT |
Marriage for the sake of Green Card (or EU citizenship) is quiet common. However, quiet truthfully, if your professor friend is in love, claiming that his friend is only one of those looking to scam him (even if you showed him a "proof" from an article), might only alienate him from you. He may believe, that his friend, *unlike those women* is pure hearted, and that you are trying to ruin his happiness. We had several threads here on "how do I stop my friend from committing a romantic disaster", and you cannot always stop the train, unless you want to ruin your relations with him. Maybe, you should consult the INS, who by the way, investigate marriages, in order to ensure that such a scam does not occur. |
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Re: Russian Scams for getting young girls into USA through romance with older US men
From: journalist-ga on 20 Sep 2003 13:05 PDT |
You should definitely be wary. |
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Re: Russian Scams for getting young girls into USA through romance with older US men
From: dynomite-ga on 30 Sep 2003 12:16 PDT |
I saw a reputable article on one of the primetime news programs (Dateline, 20/20, 60 minutes). I do not have the exact date, but it aired within the last year and had a number of first person interviews. These were not mail-order brides but rather older men who visited the country. Whether or not the women claimed to be "virgins" I don't know. Sorry for the lack of definitive information, I just wanted to let you that what you are looking for is out there. |
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Re: Russian Scams for getting young girls into USA through romance with older US men
From: girch-ga on 20 Jun 2004 01:51 PDT |
I hope you are wrong about your colleague's friend and things work out well for them, but it is good to see that you are concerned for his well-being. I know this information comes somewhat late, but hopefully it can still be of use to you: The 60 Minutes article that dynomite mentioned, titled "Russian roulette", is dated May 11, 2003. The 60 Minutes transcript of the segment can be found here (paid membership needed, but there is currently a free month-long trial available): http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/sixtyminutes/stories/2003_05_11/story_830.asp There is a transcript of the segment available on another website, but from what you said, your friend might want to see it on the actual 60 Minutes site to be convinced that it is somewhat credible. The link to the copy is here: http://www.mediadefamation.org/defamation0.htm The 60 Minutes segment seems to deal specifically with Australians and the exploitation of Australian laws, although the information regarding some Russian women using unwitting men as a means to permanent residency is there and could possibly apply in the United States as well. To find this, I searched for: russian marriage scam "60 Minutes" ____ FYI: I am not a Google Answers 'Researcher'. |
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