![]() |
|
![]() | ||
|
Subject:
Basic Computer Networking Help!
Category: Computers Asked by: amole-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
31 Aug 2003 17:35 PDT
Expires: 30 Sep 2003 17:35 PDT Question ID: 250900 |
My wife and I are looking to play Neverwinter Nights computer game together and, it would seem that the only way to do this is via home network. I know the basics of computers (have added RAM and video card to desktop), but know absolutely nothing about networking, other than that it looks complex! The two computers we will be trying to connect are A) HP Pavilion 6535 (Celeron - under 1 Ghz; Win 98; 256 RAM; 2 USB; 56K - no network card; not sure what else [if anything] I should be listing here) and B) a Sony Vaio GRT 100 Notebook (Mobile Celeron 1.8 Ghz; Win XP Home; 512 RAM; 3USB; 56k - no network card). We own our home, should holes need to be drilled in walls, etc. I wouldn't need anything fancy because I really just would like to be able to transfer files, play the game, and possibly share a printer. My questions are: A)do I have to install a network in order to do the above? B)what is the cheapest/EASIEST (least complicated for novices) but also efficient way to do this? C)what will I need and where can I purchase the equipment cheaply? C)how do I then put it all together and get it working? D)if I am confused even after your suggestions, what then? Or is there somewhere I can turn for assistance (as mentioned previously, the intricacies of networking are quite foreign to me and I could strain the good nature of well-intentioned network gurus with my bewildered questions. Please spell things out to me, keeping in mind that I am woefully ignorant about this networking stuff. All I know is that I have been urged to buy a "router" (!??) and a "hub" (!!!!????). I also heard that another option would be to install network cards in the two computers and connect them with a network cable, connect them to a hub (???), and that would be it. Is there another option, using phone lines? Are these easy to do and how effective are these methods (and how expensive?)? Please let me know about these and any other methods you deem appropriate for one with minimal skill/knowledge about networking. You Google researchers have saved my neck several times now and I know you can help me with this latest debacle. |
![]() | ||
|
There is no answer at this time. |
![]() | ||
|
Subject:
Re: Basic Computer Networking Help!
From: 124in-ga on 02 Sep 2003 01:35 PDT |
seeing as your question hasn't been answered and I can help... A)do I have to install a network in order to do the above? you don't but it would be a lot cheaper than getting internet connections for both computers and the transfer rate would be a lot faster B)what is the cheapest/EASIEST (least complicated for novices) but also efficient way to do this? if you were running winxp on both machines i would say wireless would be easiest... networking is very easy if you get a network card for the hp that windows 98 will auto detect (if not it can be a bit more complex...installing driver). you could also connect over usb network adapters but they are limited in terms of speed and generally more expensive. To network you will need some cable, (building your own is very easy, but so is buying it) and a free pci slot in your hp and a pcmcia slot in your laptop (cardslot on side). http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=4556 - this is a cheap 100Mb card that I commonly use, but you will need to install drivers. http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=3916574 - pcmcia cards are a little more expensive, but xp is great for detecting hardware. next, you'll need to connect your computers. with just two computers you can use a crossover cable (direclty connect two computers) or you can get a hub, switch or multiport router (more expensive, but useful to share internet or if more than 2 computers eventually). crossover cables are fairly easily available and so are the hardware components. from the sounds of it i would reccommend a crossover cable (100 ft or whatever you need) once the computers are hooked up you'll need to set up the networking in the operating system (more complex) in xp start - control panel - network - network connections right click on the adapter and select properties - you'll need to make sure two protocols are there and if they aren't you'll need to add them: Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and NWLink IPX/SPX. double click on TCP/IP - select use the following ip address - you need to input the address of the machine - make this one 192.168.1.1 and change the subnet to 255.255.255.0 hit ok a couple of times to make the settings stick next, on to the 98 machine (doing from memory) go to "network" in the control panel and each the protocols for each adapter make sure there are tcp/ip and ipx for the network adapter (if not add them) and double click on tcp/ip again change the setting to: use following ip address - make this one 192.168.1.2 - click ok a couple of times and you'll have to reboot the computer once this step is done the computers should be able to communicate with each other go to start - run and type: cmd (command in win98) and type: ping 192.168.1.2 from the .1 machien (or .1 if you are on the .2 machine) if you get a response the machines can talk with each other, if not repeat this step. now you need to setup the filesharing (fast expanation), you'll need to go back into network in control panel and make sure that sharing is enabled (win98 file and print sharing for microsoft networks) - then on a directory or drive you want to share, right click and choose sharing (there are some options - self explanitory). You need to put both of your computers on the same domain (again this is different in 98 and xp) in xp right click on my computer and click properties and go to computer name and click change and choose a new workgroup name. right click on my network neighborhood on the 98 machine and choose properties there should be a tab at the top where you can choose your workgroup in the settings, set the same one and reboot the 98 machine. now you should be able to go into neighborhood network on both computers and see the other computer show up. you can now move files back and forth and play games over the network .... few ...sorry if its a bit sparatic, its late C)what will I need and where can I purchase the equipment cheaply? i outlined in last section... i gave links to cards (cheap good store) and the cable can be bought at a local store. pricewatch.com is always a good site to find parts C)how do I then put it all together and get it working? also outlined above D)if I am confused even after your suggestions, what then? Or is there somewhere I can turn for assistance you can email me at joel@wedemire.com or you can wait for google to answer your question :) |
Subject:
Re: Basic Computer Networking Help!
From: amole-ga on 02 Sep 2003 07:49 PDT |
Joel, Thanks for the help - why aren't YOU a google researcher? Would I be able to share printers and internet connection between the two comps with the crossover cable/network card solution? That certainly sounds the easiest and cheapest. Thanks again for the answer - I'd tip you if I could! |
Subject:
Re: Basic Computer Networking Help!
From: kirchoff-ga on 03 Sep 2003 05:07 PDT |
in my opinion ,The cheapest/easiest solution is usb bluetooth.You don't need network cards,cables and drills.. It's about 10m - 100m open air and in home about 50m. prices is about 50$-80$ all computer markets..you need 2 usb blutooth and widcomm 1.3.2.7 software..That's all..Install hardware (only plug empty usb slot),setup program and internet connection sharing,printer sharing,folders sharing are ready !! Bluetooth uses TCP/IP ,same network cards.. and if you use blutooth, you can connect PDA,some handy phones etc.. (If supports bluetooth).Its very usefull..It's very easy and cheap..(mitsumi WML-C52APR 10m version, about 50$ WML-C51APR 100m version,about 80$) |
Subject:
Re: Basic Computer Networking Help!
From: mmmurf-ga on 03 Sep 2003 16:55 PDT |
I suggest that you go with a cheap 802.11b wireless router and two network cards (pcmcia wireless card for the vaio and pci or usb net card for the other machine). Why? 802.11b (wireless) will have a range of a few hundred feet. You can share printers, files, and your internet connection via this network. I would look on pricewatch for the hardware. Netgear makes decent equipment, as does dlink and linksys. Don't mess with drilling holes and running cable... It is a pain in the butt. Most hardware will have instructions that make it easy to set up your machines. |
Subject:
Re: Basic Computer Networking Help!
From: ritex-ga on 04 Sep 2003 12:22 PDT |
As per your requirements you can use two lan card for both the PCc and can connect then through crosscable .It is the most cheap solution for sharing in between two pcs for file transfer ,resources access such as printer and internet sharing. |
Subject:
Re: Basic Computer Networking Help!
From: drtandem-ga on 06 Sep 2003 03:13 PDT |
I'm not sure what this game is. If you need to access the internet to play, then both computers will need to share an internet connection. If it is a game shared between to computers, they need a path to communicate. In either case, you need at least one NIC for each machine. They are easily installed and less than $30 each. You will need to connect the two computers using either a router or a cross-over ethernet cable. If you only have two computers and you don't need to share the internet, then you don't need a router. However, if the computers are some distance apart, a wireless router would be much easier than drilling holes and running wire. Also, if you have a broadband internet connection (DSL/cable modem), then a wireless router with a broadband WAN port is the answer. Since you mention that you don't have a NIC in either computer, I doubt you have a broadband connection to the internet. So, you are probably using an analog modem. You will then need to set up ICS (internet connection software) if the internet is needed to play this game. If broadband is available in your area, I recommend it. In the long run, using broadband and a router to share an internet connection is a better option than ICS. With ICS, one of the computers is hosting the internet connection and must be on for the other computer to share it. With a router, either computer can share the internet regardless of the status of either computer. |
Subject:
Re: Basic Computer Networking Help!
From: telecomguru-ga on 29 Sep 2003 14:21 PDT |
If you use Bluetooth dongles, those littles devices that plug into the USB port, then you will have a range of 30 Meters, and a connection speed of 1Mb/s. This is fast enough for your game. You can also purchase bluetooth printers, PDA's, and numerous other devices that would make a neat little home network. You could also use a pair of network cards, which could currently give you sppeds of up to 1 Gb/s. You could use the Wi-Fi, which can give you speeds in the 10Mb/s range, or you could use routers, hubs, or switches. The cheapest method would probably be the network cards, where you would be ables to set up your network for a little nder 100 dollars. No need to be fancy. |
If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by emailing us at answers-support@google.com with the question ID listed above. Thank you. |
Search Google Answers for |
Google Home - Answers FAQ - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy |