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Subject: company submission to google.com
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: vmonkeycom-ga
List Price: $4.50
Posted: 01 Sep 2003 09:50 PDT
Expires: 01 Oct 2003 09:50 PDT
Question ID: 251076
approx 3 months ago my website www.vmonkey.com was submitted to google
and achieved a ranking of number 30, somehow my pointer address
www.anonymousemail.co.uk was also submitted and now this seems to have
a higher ranking and www.vmonkey.com cannot be found. I have now found
a web marketing company in the UK who are going to optimise and
achieve a top 1st page ranking for www.vmonkey.com . can you please
tell me what is going on with these domains and will it still be
possible for www.vmonkey.com to get a high listing, as I cant find it
listed (up to page 10) anywhere under keywords 'anonymous email'. many
thanks
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Subject: Re: company submission to google.com
Answered By: robertskelton-ga on 04 Sep 2003 14:18 PDT
 
Hi there,

First of all, having multiple domains is not a good idea if you wish
to optimize for search engines. You should decide on a single domain
to use, and stop using the others completely. I notice you are also
using another domain, and because of this Google has penalized it with
a PR0:
http://www.email-pranks.com/

Problems caused include listings like this one, which includes the .uk
URL:
http://www.toxiclemon.co.uk/t/email/anonymous-email.htm

When you look at Google's cache of vmonkey.com, it lists it as the .uk
URL:
http://216.239.51.104/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vmonkey.com

Google won't list both URLs involved in a re-direct, which means it
has to make a decision of which to list. So far it has decided to list
the .uk URL.

The solution is to stop using any URLs other than vmonkey.com. Remove
email-pranks.com from the web, and then submit the URL to Google (it
will see there is nothing there, and after a while it will be removed
from Google's index). Remove the re-direct from anonymousemail.co.uk
and submit the URL to Google.

Secondly, it is against Google guidelines to be part of reciprocal
linking schemes, like this one:
http://www.scorecardmetrics.com/links.html

"Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings... ask, "Does
this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"
 
Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's
ranking or PageRank."
://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html 

So, remove your site from that one if possible.

Thirdly, the SEO company you are planning to use look good. Few SEOs
offer evidence of the rankings they have achieved. Getting a top 10
for "anonymous email" would be harder than the examples they provide,
in my opinion. So make sure your deal with them revolves around them
achieving a top 10 position for your site.

Get them to submit vmonkey.com to Open Directory, whether it is part
of their strategy or not.
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/E-mail/Anonymous_Mailers/


Best wishes,
robertskelton-ga
Comments  
Subject: Re: company submission to google.com
From: tantalus-ga on 04 Sep 2003 07:47 PDT
 
Clarification:

What term were you using for the top 30 ranking?

Hint: To get a #1 spot on google for an obscure term is easy. However
it won't bring traffic as no one will use that term to search with.

Example; "vmonkey" return 117 sites indexed by google ( by the way
your number 1) whereas "anonymous email" returns 4,360,000 sites
indexed by google.

Hope that helps.
Subject: Re: company submission to google.com
From: vmonkeycom-ga on 04 Sep 2003 13:01 PDT
 
please read the question again... i am searching on keywords
'anonymous email'
and vmonkey.com seems to have dissappeared however a pointer address
of www.anonymousemail.co.uk seems to have been indexed at #29. does my
third party company work on optimising and getting a higher ranking
for anonymousemail.co.uk or vmonkey.com .. the latter we would prefer
as it is our domain name.. i need to know why vmonkey.com got dropped
from indexing.

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