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Subject: god's will
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: lrs252-ga
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Posted: 04 Sep 2003 11:06 PDT
Expires: 04 Oct 2003 11:06 PDT
Question ID: 252265
I have a problem with understanding God' will.  I believe that when
your "time" is up no matter when it be you die in your sleep, car
crash, an accident not caused by you, murdered etc.  Others believe
that if you die in accident say by a drunk driver that was not god's
will for you to do it just means that you were in the wrong place at
the wrong time.  I believe if God didn't want you to die He would not
let you die.  Or if you die in an accident  but it was your fault
because you were at a place at the wrong time so If you die in your
sleep is that your fault for going to bed.  Can someone help me?
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Subject: Re: god's will
Answered By: omniscientbeing-ga on 04 Sep 2003 13:30 PDT
 
lrs252-ga ,

The concept of "God" takes on a different form for each and every one
of us. Some people's perception of "God" is as a type of all-powerful
being or force responsible for your creation and, ultimately-- for
your death too. Others believe that their God wills only good things
to happen to them, and that anything bad like a car accident means
they were temporarily not being watched over by their God ("Never
drive faster than your Guardian Angel can fly").

Some other people think that there is one singular God watching over
all people, and so it is not always possible for him/her/it to be
watching any one of us every second of the day and night.

If you believe, as you say, that your time is up when it's up, no
matter what you happen to be doing, then you could assume that this is
the life God has laid out for you. Just because you die does not mean
that you did not have a good life--a life that was given to you by
God. Without death, there is no life, and what the Lord giveth, the
Lord can taketh away for reasons that may be beyond the realm of our
comprehension.

Early or "unnatural" death does not mean that you did not have a good
life before dying, does it? Would you rather have not ever been born
were you to know before coming into this world that you would die
before reaching old age?
Perhaps God gives us what s/he/it can.

Here is a passage from the New Testament, St. John 11::25-26:

"Jesus said, 'I am the resurrection, and the life: He that believeth
in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth
and believeth in me shall never die'."

Also, from Proverbs 3:5, 6:

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own
understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and He shall direct
thy paths."

So, there is the age-old concept that regardless of when or how you
depart this world, there awaits a better one for you in the
after-life, if you have believed in God and followed his/her will.
Also, many people believe that it is best not to question God's will,
whatever shape it may take--what happens in this world happens, so to
speak, but all will be rectified by God in the End.

The following page of links attempt to deal with the general question
of why God lets bad things (including death) happen to good people
(including children):

Google search strategy:

Keywords, “why does God let me die?”

://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=why+does+God+let+me+die%3F

“God’s will”:
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=god%27s+will
,

I hope this is helpful.

Sincerely,

omniscientbeing-ga
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Subject: Re: god's will
From: pinkfreud-ga on 04 Sep 2003 11:16 PDT
 
Many theologians believe that God has two types of "will." 

His "perfect will" is that which He prefers; His "permissive will" is
that which he allows.

The fact that something happens is evidence that God has permitted it,
but that does not necessarily mean that He desired it. Since humans
have been granted free will, many things outside God's perfect will
can occur.
Subject: Re: god's will
From: joelpt-ga on 04 Sep 2003 12:46 PDT
 
I would argue that there is actually no free will.  If you look at
your decisions, it is quite easy to see that each one has been
affected by innumerable experiences in your life, by how your parents
raised you, or by your genetic makeup.  Even seemingly "free"
decisions like "will I have chocolate or strawberry ice cream today"
-- are entirely controlled and caused by your past experiences, which
lead back forever, to before you were born. The "opporunity" for an
action of free will never even arises.

Therefore everything that you do, and everything that happens to you,
is a pure consequence of "God's will" -- which is really just another
term for "cause and effect".  'Accidental' or 'intentional' happenings
are really just human concepts, a human overlay on top of what is just
the process of cause-and-effect doing its thing.  Cause and effect,
itself, is neither accidental nor intentional.

The shadow falls in such a direction as the sun wills: we do not have
free will about having free will.

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