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For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: pinkfreud-ga List Price: $7.50 |
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11 Sep 2003 17:23 PDT
Expires: 11 Oct 2003 17:23 PDT Question ID: 254829 |
Hi, THV! When I lived in Tennessee I often heard the term "tarheel" used by residents of a neighboring state. Can you tell me, very briefly, the meaning of the term "tarheel," and a little bit of its background? Somehow I have the idea that a person whose username is tar_heel_v-ga will be able to provide me with a satisfying answer to this question that has lurked in the back of my mind for several years. Best, Pink |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
Answered By: tar_heel_v-ga on 19 Sep 2003 09:45 PDT Rated: |
My dearest Pinkfreud... My deepest and sincerest apologies for being so tardy in my response to your question. I am truly flattered to have been chosen to provide an answer to one who, as evidenced by the comments, is so highly respected and esteemed within the GA community. The reports of my demise were greatly exagerrated, however. I have simply been very, very busy with real life and have been unable to support my habit of Google Answers. That being said, let's take a look at your question. The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the flagship of the University of North Carolina system, is the oldest state university in the United States. Founded in 1789, Carolina is consistently rated among the top universities in the United States. Most people, however, equate the the success of the athletic programs with UNC. While the State has two official nicknames, "THe Old North State" and "The Tar Heel State", the origin of Tar Heel is a question that we, even as natives, are asked and have asked all of our lives. Obviously (maybe not), North Carolina is known as the Tar Heel State. The history behind this monicker is one that is surrounded in controversy and mystery. There are several versions of how the name came to be. More than likely, regardless of the true origin of Tar Heel, the production of tar-pitch and turpentine, cultivated from the large population of pine trees in the state, has a direct correlation on the name. These trees were burned and the tar would run down channels that were cut along the sides. Those that collected this tar were known as "tar boilers". Poet Walt Whitman recorded in the late 1800's that the people of North Carolina were known as "tar boliers". Being that this line of work was not one that was looked upon with favor, the term tar boiler was not a compliment by any means. One of the stories, while far from the most popular, states that when General Cornwallis' troops tried to cross into North Carolina, revolutionaries had poured tar into the river in order to slow them down. It was then said that anyone that tried to invade the state would get a tar heel. This story, howeverm cannot be traced before the 20th century, so it is more than likely, simply folklore and also a means to help point to the naming of the Tar River. The question remains, when did this name, Tar Heel, come to being. The most popular stories are both found during the Civil War: "In a fierce battle in Virginia, where their supportive column was driven from the field, North Carolina troops stood alone and fought successfully. The victorious troops were asked in a condescending tone by some Virginians who had retreated, 'Any more tar down in the Old North State, boys?' The response came quickly: 'No: not a bit; old Jeff's bought it all up.' 'Is that so? What is he going to do with it?' the Virginians asked. 'He is going to put it on your heels to make you stick better in the next fight.'" Origin Of Name "Tar Heel" http://www.ininc.com/ramfanatic/Misc/origin_of_name.htm There are versions of the above that we as native North Carolinians have been told our entire lives. One states that soldiers from North Carolina fought so bravely and valiantly at the Battle of Murfeesboro that a Union general stated that they must have had "tar on their heels to hold the line" After the Civil War, the term Tar Heel was considered somewhat derogatory, used in a similar way that we might use the term "white trash" today. However, as the years went on, the term became one that North Carolinians used with pride. In 1893, students at the University of North Carolina founded a newspaper entitled "The Tar Heels" (now known as The Daily Tar Heel) and the term has been associated with the school ever since. Thanks for allowing my to answer your question regarding my home state. I hope that the information I have provided will allow you to rest easy knowing how your one time neighbor to the East was given the nickname of the Tar Heel State. Regards, -THV Search Strategy: tar heel origin References: personal knowledge |
pinkfreud-ga
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Thank you so much for the educational and entertaining answer! And thanks also for your assistance on the "Disco Ball" question. It was most appreciated. |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
From: probonopublico-ga on 12 Sep 2003 00:16 PDT |
Oh, dear ... Another illusion shattered ... I used to believe that Pinky knew EVERYTHING. |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
From: pinkfreud-ga on 12 Sep 2003 10:03 PDT |
Even a person who knows everything has an occasional need for emergency backup information. ;-) |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
From: probonopublico-ga on 12 Sep 2003 10:09 PDT |
Right ... That's it! You are now officially demoted from your Goddess status. Please turn in your badge and gun immediately. Also, say 'Goodbye' to your pension. AND no more treats for the cats. (Not even the lioness!) |
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pinkfreud demoted from goddess status
From: grammatoncleric-ga on 12 Sep 2003 14:59 PDT |
My intuition is that probonopublico-ga has made his summary decision out of an emotional response. He should be arrested for sense offense. In the meantime I would like to congratulate pinkfreud on her continued dedication to the Tetragrammaton. See previous comment posting here: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=224359 The Grammaton Cleric |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
From: pinkfreud-ga on 12 Sep 2003 16:13 PDT |
Dear Grammaton Cleric, Thank you very much for your kind words. Maintaining 'Equilibrium' is important to my entire family, but it is not easy, since my gramma weighs a ton and my dog (who loves to chase cars) can sense a fender. ~pinkfreud |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
From: apteryx-ga on 13 Sep 2003 12:59 PDT |
Hey, Bryan, Don't start repainting that shrine and posting a rental notice yet. Not a single crumb of marble has fallen from Pinkfreud's pedestal. Rather, you have made a false assumption about the epistemological dimensions of divinity. Goddesses do not have to know everything. Like mortals, they just have to know where to get it. They also have resources unknown and unimaginable to the rest of us. And--they have to know what to do with the knowledge when they get it, which in my estimation is less a characteristic of human than of godlike wisdom. To ask a question does not necessarily mean ignorance of the answer. On the contrary, asking a question to which one already knows the answer is an excellent method of divination for many purposes, as members of certain professions know very well. Disarmingly candid, sublimely inscrutable, our Pinky may have some ineffable design behind her question that is not for you and me to penetrate. If I were you, I wouldn't go around tempting her disfavor. I'd say better light another stick of incense pretty quick, and maybe even lay down some jam and muffins and a pot of tea at the foot of that pedestal. Advice from a friend, Apteryx |
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From: sublime1-ga on 13 Sep 2003 16:44 PDT |
I actually DO know everything...I just can't remember it all at once. : ) |
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From: probonopublico-ga on 13 Sep 2003 21:12 PDT |
Hmmmmmmmmmmm The Comments of various Pinky disciples have been noted ...... BUT, surely, a Goddess of all people should know precisely WHERE to cast her question? And, according to my (highly privileged) intelligence tar_heel_v has NOT responded. Therefore, I contend that a switched-on Goddess should by now have redirected her question to tar_heel_vi or vii? Or am I missing something? Worried of Hove |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
From: apteryx-ga on 13 Sep 2003 23:52 PDT |
I'm sorry, Bryan. Your reasoning does not follow at all. It's too narrowly confined by human habits of thought. You must open up your mind to other rationalities, you know? Pinky may have delivered her message or achieved her purpose already. tar_heel_v-ga doesn't even have to exist, much less answer when called upon, for this communication to succeed. I would not presume to suppose that the logic of deities must make sense to me unless I were a deity of equal standing myself. Apteryx |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
From: probonopublico-ga on 14 Sep 2003 00:01 PDT |
Got it! I've sussed it out at last ... tar_heel_v disappeared on March 3 and has not been seen or heard of since. His/her last words at 18.54 PST were 'I am still looking for dedicated e-tailers with numbers.' (ID 166388) Obviously, it should not take more than 6 months to answer a $25 question, particularly since tar_heel_v had previously stated on ID 158076 that he/she already had the information. There's more to this than meets the eye. Naturally, Pinky was worried about the missing researcher, so she sent out a CODED message. Goddess Pinky, you are hereby reinstated. But now, I'm even more worried about tar_heel_v. Verily Worrified of Hove |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
From: apteryx-ga on 14 Sep 2003 00:06 PDT |
Yes. Coded. <whew> The tenth word from the end is a major clue. I trust we will see that your discretion is the equal of your perspicacity. Pinky, I've done all I can do. It's up to you now. A. |
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Re: For tar_heel_v-ga ONLY
From: probonopublico-ga on 14 Sep 2003 00:11 PDT |
Oops! tar_heel_v-ga has NOT disappeared ... A search for tar_heel only brings up the misspellings ... Now, there's a funny thing. |
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