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Whatever happened to non-singing popular song writers?
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music Asked by: nautico-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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14 Sep 2003 12:01 PDT
Expires: 14 Oct 2003 12:01 PDT Question ID: 255762 |
Sometime in the early 60s singers were increasingly writing their own music, and that now seems to be the norm (even more so for instrumental groups). Why? Why did this division of labor among music writer, lyricist, and singer give way to the one-person-does-it-all phenomenon? And what's the consensus of opinion among popular music critics as to whether this change has been for the better or not so? My own view is that singers aren't as good as they used to be in the 40s and 50s and that their insistence on writing their own stuff has had a lot to do with that. They seem to see themselves as poets (though doggerel it usually is), but whose musical product is anything but muse inspired. Singers [sic] like Rod Stewart come to mind: any semblance of tonal quality has become totally eclipsed by cacophony, rhythm, and sheer volume. I realize, of course, that the advent of rock & roll also has had much to do with this change. Is there something about R&R that naturally led to the demise of those who made their living writing songs, but who wisely refrained from singing them? (Some were not so wise, Irving Berlin and Hoagy Carmichael having been among those who just couldn't resist showcasing their own tunes on occasion). |
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Re: Whatever happened to non-singing popular song writers?
Answered By: journalist-ga on 14 Sep 2003 17:02 PDT Rated: |
Greetings Nautico: Thank you for requesting my comments as an answer! Below you will find the comments restructured as a formal answer. ********* The "one person [or one band] does it all" is simply a matter of more profits for the singer/songwriter and less hassle for producers to locate and screen songs for the artist AND I agree that many singer/songwriters' material falls short of an entire album of high quality tunes. Take artists such as Celine Dion, Barbra Streisand and Whitney Houston. Most of their albums featured a majority of highly-crafted songs by other writers and more care does seem to be taken with locating well-crafted material for them. Just my opinion. RELATED: For an enlightening perspective on the music business, visit "Confessions of a Record Producer" by Moses Avalon at http://www.mosesavalon.com/faq.htm and peruse the technical aspects of contractual music at "This Business of Music" http://www.thisbusinessofmusic.info/ I believe the combination of singer/sngwriter was/is driven by economics. Songwriters make a pittance considering that if it wasn't for the song, a singer would have nothing to sing. However, songwriters remain on the bottom rung of the profit ladder. So if an artist writes his/her own songs, they do get a bit more money. "Assume that all of the songs on the hypothetical album are administered by a single publishing company (in a copublishing deal with the songwriter's publishing company), and that, according to the mechanical royalty projections laid out previously, $0.755 total mechanical royalty income is generated per album sold. Of that amount, the songwriter is paid 50 percent($0.3775). Of the remaining publisher's share, the songwriter's publishing company and the larger publishing company each receive $0.18875 per album sold. In the end, the songwriter receives a total of $0.56625 per album sold ($0.3775 plus $0.18875), and the publishing company receives $0.18875 per album sold." From http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_follow_money_whos/ In addition, BMI charges a modest fee to collect and redistribute to the songwriter the money he/she makes. In my opinion, most younger listeners care naught for well-crafted lyrics. It's the beat, the sound, that reigns supreme. There are more discerning listeners but the youth market has the purchase power and record companies know this. "Our target market is the 14 to 28 year old age group. According RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) statistics, the 15 24 year old age group alone is responsible for some 32.2% of all record sales." From http://www.bipbipbip.com/corporate/main.html [The RIAA website was down so I have not provided a link to there.] This dated chart from 2000 indicates that ages 10 to 24 (added together) generated 18+% of all music sales: Age Group Average music sales/person Average CD sales/person 10 to 14 4.68 4.09 15 to 19 6.89 6.01 20 to 24 7.11 6.21 25 to 29 5.90 5.15 30 to 34 5.16 4.50 35 to 39 5.04 4.40 40 to 44 4.62 4.03 45 + 2.65 2.31 All 3.83 3.35 Table 4: Purchases of all music products and of CDs in year 2000 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9380 Regarding more about the quality of songs, years ago "perfect rhyme" was a standard in the songwriting industry. Now, words that sound somewhat alike are accepted as rhyme more and more. Like "home" and "alone" or "love" and "tough." I'm an old school rhymer myself - I prefer perfect rhyme. Quality is way down, in my opinion. I'm a huge fan of Norah Jones music yet I feel that many of her lyrics could have been much better crafted - she also abandons perfect rhyme in most of her original songs. To me, song writing and song crafting are two very different things. It doesn't appear there are many new lyricists who actually craft lyrics - they just write down what sort of rhymes. Best regards, journalist-ga, formerly in the music business and favorite quote about it is: "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." ~Hunter S. Thompson~ SEARCH STRATEGY: royalty per recording sold songwriter age group music sales statistics | |
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Re: Whatever happened to non-singing popular song writers?
From: journalist-ga on 14 Sep 2003 12:27 PDT |
Greetings Nautico: The "one person [or one band] does it all" is simply a matter of more profits for the singer/songwriter and less hassle for producers to locate and screen songs for the artist AND I agree that many singer/songwriters' material falls short of an entire album of high quality tunes. Take artists such as Celine Dion, Barbra Streisand and Whitney Houston. Most of their albums featured a majority of highly-crafted songs by other writers and more care does seem to be taken with locating well-crafted material for them. Just my opinion. RELATED: For an enlightening perspective on the music business, visit "Confessions of a Record Producer" by Moses Avalon at http://www.mosesavalon.com/faq.htm and peruse the technical aspects of contractual music at "This Business of Music" http://www.thisbusinessofmusic.info/ Best regards, journalist-ga, formerly in the music business and favorite quote about it is: "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." ~Hunter S. Thompson~ :) |
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Re: Whatever happened to non-singing popular song writers?
From: nautico-ga on 14 Sep 2003 12:35 PDT |
I gather then that you believe this phenomenon is driven primarily by economics, that singers suddenly realized they could keep more if they wrote their own stuff. You also mention that this eliminates the hassle of having to find writers and coordinate their efforts. Any other factors? What about the changing nature of popular music itself? Does the rock genre require less technical skill in the writing component, for example? Are today's young listeners less demanding of good composition and, if so, why? |
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Re: Whatever happened to non-singing popular song writers?
From: journalist-ga on 14 Sep 2003 13:50 PDT |
Yes, I believe it was/is driven by economics. Songwriters make a pittance considering that if it wasn't for the song, a singer would have nothing to sing. However, songwriters remain on the bottom rung of the profit ladder. So if an artist writes his/her own songs, they do get a bit more money. "Assume that all of the songs on the hypothetical album are administered by a single publishing company (in a copublishing deal with the songwriter's publishing company), and that, according to the mechanical royalty projections laid out previously, $0.755 total mechanical royalty income is generated per album sold. Of that amount, the songwriter is paid 50 percent($0.3775). Of the remaining publisher's share, the songwriter's publishing company and the larger publishing company each receive $0.18875 per album sold. In the end, the songwriter receives a total of $0.56625 per album sold ($0.3775 plus $0.18875), and the publishing company receives $0.18875 per album sold." From http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_follow_money_whos/ In addition, BMI charges a modest fee to collect and redistribute to the songwriter the money he/she makes. In my opinion, most younger listeners care naught for well-crafted lyrics. It's the beat, the sound, that reigns supreme. There are more discerning listeners but the youth market has the purchase power and record companies know this. "Our target market is the 14 to 28 year old age group. According RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) statistics, the 15 24 year old age group alone is responsible for some 32.2% of all record sales." From http://www.bipbipbip.com/corporate/main.html [The RIAA website was down so I have not provided a link to there.] This dated chart from 2000 indicates that ages 10 to 24 (added together) generated 18+% of all music sales: Age Group Average music sales/person Average CD sales/person 10 to 14 4.68 4.09 15 to 19 6.89 6.01 20 to 24 7.11 6.21 25 to 29 5.90 5.15 30 to 34 5.16 4.50 35 to 39 5.04 4.40 40 to 44 4.62 4.03 45 + 2.65 2.31 All 3.83 3.35 Table 4: Purchases of all music products and of CDs in year 2000 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9380 Regarding more about the quality of songs, years ago "perfect rhyme" was a standard in the songwriting industry. Now, words that sound somewhat alike are accepted as rhyme more and more. Like "home" and "alone" or "love" and "tough". I'm an old school rhymer myself - I prefer perfect rhyme. Quality is way down, in my opinion. I'm a huge fan of Norah Jones music yet I feel that many of her lyrics could have been much better crafted - she also abandons perfect rhyme in most of her original songs. To me, song writing and song crafting are two very different things. It doesn't appear there are many new lyricists who actually craft lyrics - they just write down what sort of rhymes. Best regards, journalist-ga SEARCH STRATEGY: royalty per recording sold songwriter age group music sales statistics |
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Re: Whatever happened to non-singing popular song writers?
From: nautico-ga on 14 Sep 2003 14:18 PDT |
OK, sport, make that your official answer! |
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Re: Whatever happened to non-singing popular song writers?
From: journalist-ga on 15 Sep 2003 02:30 PDT |
Yowza! Many thanks for your added generosity as well as the comment and rating! I thoroughly enjoyed the dialogue. :) Best regards, journalist-ga |
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Re: Whatever happened to non-singing popular song writers?
From: nautico-ga on 15 Sep 2003 13:58 PDT |
This from a musician friend of mine: I believe that rock as a genre, and the advent of popular FM radio had everything to do with it. The mid 60's spawned a time when (if) a band didn't write original music, there was almost no chance of getting a recording contract. This was probably a direct result of the advent of FM radio. FM radio opened the eyes of consumers, allowing them to see that there was an entire new market of original music that was far more interesting than the "cookie cutter" songs that were being produced by the major record companies, and played on AM, Top-40 stations. When underground groups began to become popular because of their interesting lyrics and instrumentation, the record companies began to look for, and find new groups that produced original music i.e. The Allman Brothers, who were a cross between urban blues, jazz, and psychedelic music. This contrasts, of course, those solo performers like Cher, Strisand, Sinatara, and a host of others who never generally wrote much of anything, but were often handed a basket full of songs to select from, that were written by contract songwriters (those very people that seem to have disappeared). Most record companies still staff a group of writers that do nothing but write "formula" hits for the big stars that can't do so themselves. |
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