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Difficult question re addiction theory
Category: Health > Conditions and Diseases Asked by: cublea-ga List Price: $50.00 |
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17 Sep 2003 00:05 PDT
Expires: 25 Sep 2003 06:33 PDT Question ID: 257561 |
Please bear with me...this is an intensely personal issue. What am I missing here? I've been studying addiction and compulsion for a quarter-century, and three years ago uncovered a theoretical model based on developmental and neurological principles which seems to meet the criteria for a solution capable of revolutionizing the field. Capsulizing this theory won't cut it...it's dirt-simple but requires certain background; it would be like trying to explain the microbial cause of infections to someone in Pasteur's day, or explaining the principles of television to someone in 1930. But that's not really the point. This theoretical model appears to be the most advanced and comprehensive in existence; it's been lying about in pieces for years but to my knowledge I might be the first to have actually collected and documented these pieces to any depth. But that's not really the point either. Addiction and compulsion arguably represent the most costly afflictions currently known to humanity. This theoretical model seems to meet all the expected criteria for such a model; it points to a common root cause for approximately 90 percent of all cases of addiction and compulsion (any theory claiming to capture all cases would be false on its face), demystifies these conditions to the point where they appear to be not just treatable but permanently curable (but not with any reliability given our current technology), and provides a rational explanation for virtually every phenomenon associated with these conditions. And no, that's not the point either. The point is that NOBODY WANTS TO KNOW and I don't understand why! In 1983, a Dr. Marshall discovered the bacterial connection to gastric ulcer through a chance discovery on a petri dish, and subsequently provided a rational solution to the considerable majority of cases of this condition. But it was twenty years before any of us heard about it. I'm not a doctor, although I *do* live in the colonies. Let's set aside the validity of the theory for a moment because that's not the issue at this point. It seems to me that even if it's invalid in some fashion, any model that answers so damn many questions so elegantly has to be highly significant. But it isn't even getting a hearing from anyone I don't know personally, and obviously the possibility of tainting through personality means that I can't rely on that kind of feedback. What I can say is that those who give it a reasonable hearing don't just find it rational...they connect with it *viscerally* to the point where I am a bit frightened of the reactions this stuff is producing. I've made more than 30 targeted attempts to contact media, academics, practitioners, NGOs and others to see if anyone is interested in looking into this further. The implications of this model are enormous, and even though it doesn't promise cure any time soon, it seems to point to PHENOMENAL gains possible in harm reduction and social planning through the application of some of the associated principles. I've also made it clear in my inquiries that from my perspective, it is also highly political, since it appears to rationally explain phenomena currently considered unexplainable. (Let us not forget that most of addiction treatment in North America is oriented around the twelve-step program, which has as its sine qua non the achievement of a mystical state, the "spiritual experience", and which hinges its success on faith.) Thus far not one inquiry - NOT ONE - has even received a reply...not even a brush-off; I bracketed the effort, targeting about a third of the inquiries to the "top", a third to locals and people working at grassroots level, and a third scattershot to net contacts I'd hoped might be interested in such a notion. Without a drop of feedback from anyone who doesn't know me personally, it is literally impossible to make any determination of what's going on here. For what it's worth, I've temporarily placed a draft of some of the material at www.cublea.net/sonora/ (DO NOT browse this site unless you feel it's necessary; the hazard warnings are there for a reason) but I don't think exposure to the model itself will help anyone interested in this problem, and I don't want to be responsible for adverse reactions to the material. Is it truly no longer possible for a layperson to put forward a notion such as this, and should I just give this up and let someone with qualifications or charisma make the same discoveries, or is there something fundamental about the concept or the dynamics of this problem that I've overlooked which essentially dooms anyone in my position to going unheard? Some three months ago, I concluded in a reverie that without someone both famous and fearless to champion the cause, or someone willing to devote 20 years to wall-banging, the model can never get a fair hearing. I can't accept this conclusion. Is it perhaps time that this was abandoned? This is eating me alive, in no small part because I see the possibility of hope for myself in what I've come across. I'd have offered more for answers but I don't have much left right now...I'm almost afraid that if I keep this up much longer, I could be tempted to gamble my net worth on a massive media push to get some kind of hearing for this. My sense is that there is a very obvious solution to this dilemma, a reason why this dynamic is playing out in this fashion that is just beyond my scope of vision. I'm almost hoping that whoever can answer this question can answer it in about 30 seconds. Thanks for your patience. | |
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Re: Difficult question re addiction theory
From: sublime1-ga on 17 Sep 2003 01:20 PDT |
cublea... You may enjoy familiarizing yourself with Dr. Arthur Janov, who had been espousing a similar approach to many problems, including addiction, since the mid-sixties: "Dr. Janov has been conducting revolutionary research in the field of psychotherapy for more than three decades. As the originator of Primal Therapy, he has treated thousands of patients and conducted extensive research to support his thesis that both physical and psychic ailments can be linked to early trauma. He has concluded that patients can dramatically reduce such debilitating medical problems as depression, anxiety, insomnia, alcoholism, drug addiction, heart disease and many other serious diseases. In 1970 he introduced his radical new approach to therapy to the general public in his first book, The Primal Scream, which became a best-seller and has since sold more than a million copies worldwide." http://www.primaltherapy.com/atomsGp03/aboutArthurJanov.htm Dr. Janov has experienced a similar response from what can be termed 'mainstream psychology', which he explained quite simply, in that, in order to deliver the benefits of Primal Therapy without succumbing, in the process, to their own psychological limitations, qualified therapists had to be willing to undergo therapy themselves. This simply did not sit well with those who had already obtained PhDs, and were considered to be 'authoritative' in every other sense of the subject of psychiatry, short of actual 'results'. Nevertheless, it was/is not uncommon for Dr. Janov or his colleagues to disprove the theory that a 'true' alcoholic cannot return to drinking without addictive behaviors taking over their lives. There are numerous testimonials in his books of people who were, by any standard, alcoholic prior to treatment, who were able, following therapy, to have a glass of wine or two on occasion, without further interest in drinking. Best regards, sublime1-ga |
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Re: Difficult question re addiction theory
From: cublea-ga on 17 Sep 2003 03:09 PDT |
Sublime One: Just to clarify in relation to the subject matter, Janov's work in this area has produced results but not the satisfactory explanations for primal's success and recidivism rates, and as such is no less phenomenological than the results achieved by AA, ibogaine, Doyle Henderson and Clovis Hyder, and the numerous "spontaneous cures" reported since antiquity. Janov's claims have been largely superceded by more recent evidence relating to shock, and from what I've seen, lack the developmental and neurological support to validate his theses to the degree he has claimed. That's not to minimize the phenomenon by any means...there's a lot to be learned there...but his codification of these matters hasn't proven to be as valuable or as accurate as claimed. Janov is only one of a host of such individuals pursuing the same trail, including Ichazo, Grof, Bradshaw, Henderson, Emerson, Smith and others. In relation to the question, according to my information Janov had pretty letters after his name and no small amount of personal charisma. I'm unemployed trailer trash from rural Canada. Publishers don't even give me permission to submit. Janov was at least able to get heard in the hangover of the acid daze. Marshall was ignored - threatened with removal of his license if I recall - even when he injected himself with helicobacter pyllori and gave himself an ulcer to cure. 2003 is not 1970, and while I suspect the dilution effect of the Internet plays some role in this dilemma, I believe there's something else at work here that I'm not seeing. Thanks for your comments...it was a fair try, and I apologize for not pre-empting your reply in my question. |
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Re: Difficult question re addiction theory
From: sublime1-ga on 17 Sep 2003 11:54 PDT |
cub... If you'll notice the timestamp on my comment, you'll see that it was just before I went to bed. Therefore, I had only briefly read what you are presenting on your site. I apologize for posting a comment prior to a thorough perusal of your site, which would have made it clear to me that you are already quite familiar with the contributions of Arthur Janov, as indicated on this page: http://www.cublea.net/sonora/qna/whodiscovered.html Let me clarify that we are kindred spirits in the questions you have raised. Reading Janov's first book was enough to initiate a healing process for me, which triggered the cathartic release of early buried memories and led to a natural resolution. I continued the process for about 2 years thereafter, using my intuition and growing experience with the healing process to go deeper. My own success with this process made me wonder why this powerful approach did not receive greater acceptance, if not prominent acclaim. I initially chalked this up to what Janov himself indicated - that mainstream practitioners were, themselves, too conflicted on subtle levels to steer clients toward their painful experiences, lest their own unresolved pain should surface and belie their authoritative composure. Thereafter, I spent 20+ years in the field of mental health and saw for myself that, in addition to dilemma which Janov presented, the trend toward economy of time and money in addressing the mental health of the public sector effectively precluded any approach which required the depth of therapy and length of aftercare necessary in the approaches you've explored. Managed care has made this even less likely. Simply put, it occurred to me along the way that, whereas it would seem that the goal of any treatment organization, whether medical or psychiatric, would be to effectively put itself out of business via successful interventions, the reality is that such organizations seem more aligned with perpetuating themselves. You have noted on your site that "...those who benefit from social sanction for their addictions and compulsions are also those who seem to have the most power in civilized cultures, and it is they who stand to lose the most." Additionally, in Janov's terms, the majority of the population is neurotic, and, since the way to resolve this epidemic has to do with a willingness to feel repressed pain, and a trust in the environment in which this is even possible, the vast majority are quick to dismiss such approaches due to classic automatic defense mechanisms and the rarity of known environments in which to do so. As to your question, "Is it truly no longer possible for a layperson to put forward a notion such as this, and should I just give this up and let someone with qualifications or charisma make the same discoveries, or is there something fundamental about the concept or the dynamics of this problem that I've overlooked which essentially dooms anyone in my position to going unheard?" There are certainly examples of laypersons who rose beyond 'conventional wisdom' in approaching a solution to a difficult problem. The creator of 'Lorenzo's oil' is one such success story in the treatment of adrenoleukodystrophy: http://www.myelin.org/aboutoil.htm Perhaps the most obvious element in that success story, which is missing from your own documentation, is the element of personal success with a particular treatment, followed by the ongoing success of increasing numbers of individuals who experience 'the cure' for themselves. Add to that your own discussion of factors which have prohibited the widespread dissemination of this knowledge on this page: http://www.cublea.net/sonora/intro/tour/8whyonlynow.html Taken together, I believe that all of the above factors, in addition to other, subtler dynamics, comprise the reasons for the difficulty of popularizing this knowledge. Best regards... sublime1-ga |
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Re: Difficult question re addiction theory
From: voila-ga on 17 Sep 2003 17:13 PDT |
It couldn't hurt to huddle with these folks from Vanderbilt: http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/root/vumc.php?site=winder&doc=127 |
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Re: Difficult question re addiction theory
From: knowledge_seeker-ga on 25 Sep 2003 05:18 PDT |
Cublea, I sure don't have an answer for you, but I'll add a few bits of information that you might find useful. And please don't take anything I'm saying as critical against your theories. Truthfully, I didn't really read them closely. I'm just commenting on the overall approach. First, I know several people who work in jobs that naturally attract mail from people who have independently developed processes, treatment programs, health products, or medical devices. This includes an FDA examiner, a university professor, the head of a pharmaceutical research lab, and a medical doctor in a large teaching hospital. I can tell you fairly confidently that the reason your mail gets no response is that they receive hundreds of letters, just like yours, every single month. They can't possibly read them all, much less assess them and reply to you. Second, if you are sending your information via email, and if it contains even a small portion of what is on your website, it's probably being rejected as Spam either automatically via filter or by hand after a quick peruse. With phrases and sentences like: " spontaneously healed addicts" ; " I am the first person to thoroughly document" ; "..improved treatments that could bring cure to millions"; " explanation of one of the most astonishing cases of social and medical ignorance in modern history.." ".. A rare genius of rare heritage.." Ask yourself, does this read like a medical journal article or like a hyped up snake oil brochure? Would YOU buy into a product or process if you received this kind of information? I wouldn't. (Again, not criticizing the theory .. just the presentation) Third, one of the key indicators that the public is told to look for in differentiating "real" medical information from "quackery" is the claim that the inventor or discoverer has worked alone for years on his theory in his private lab and has been rejected, discounted, or suppressed by the medical community either because they don't believe him or because they are threatened by his discovery. Fourth, there is hope for " a layperson to put forward a notion such as this." I'll give you my favorite example Judith Rich Harris -- Mom, textbook editor, Harvard reject, working from home. During her many years of reading and writing psychology textbooks, she came to the realization that one (well, actually two) of the child social development theories that had been promoted as "truth" for the last hundred years, was just plain wrong. So, she researched, documented, interviewed, wrote letters, inquired, and studied until she knew she was right. Then she wrote a professional research paper, submitted it to a medical journal, and had it accepted. From there, first the backlash (hers is NOT an easy-to-swallow theory! It goes against everything parents and developmental psychologists want to believe.) then the book, the reviews, the talk shows, (the hate mail), and finally, most importantly professional acceptance of her research and theory. Read her article below, and compare that to your website and what you are sending out to doctors and researchers. Harris, Judith Rich. "Where Is the Child's Environment? A Group Socialization Theory of Development." Psychological Review; July 1995 Vol. 102, No. 3, 458-489 http://www.apa.org/journals/rev/rev1023458.html You see, it can be done, but it's got to be done right. Good luck cublea! -K~ Psst and btw .. your 10-minute Tour needs a "back" button. :-) |
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