I was in a car accident where I injured my neck. I had a significant
amount of pain in one area and both sides became very tense. One day
in an effort to provide myself some relief I did something where I
dropped my head, moved it to the side, and brought it up again. This
caused another change in health for the worse. Could in doing this I
have moved the middle of the muscle around the wrong side of the
shoulder blade?
I don't have too much interest in being told this is not possible. |
Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
on
17 Sep 2003 06:51 PDT
Can you please clalrify what you mean by "I don't have too much
interest in being told this is not possible."? If in fact our research
finds that this is NOT possible, what honest answer would be
acceptable in view of the fact that you have asked a "yes or no"
question with special instructions that the answer "NO" is not an
option? Right or wrong it would seem then that you have answered your
own question. How do you suggest we proceed?
Regards;
tutuzdad-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
aceresearcher-ga
on
17 Sep 2003 12:02 PDT
Greetings, witness74!
I've been in a bad accident where I suffered neck trauma as well, so I
have an idea of what you're going through, and I hope that you get to
feeling better very soon.
It is indeed possible that when you "dropped my head, moved it to the
side, and brought it up again" you caused increased pain and/or injury
to yourself. However, this would not be due to moving your muscle
around to the wrong side of your shoulder blade, although that
certainly may be just what it feels like to you. Would you be willing
to accept as an answer possible causes of your pain and potential
treatments that you might pursue with a physician?
Regards,
aceresearcher
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Clarification of Question by
witness74-ga
on
17 Sep 2003 15:25 PDT
I'm understand your frustration with my question.
I would accept a convincing explanation of my symptoms. When I've told
that my theory is wrong, my other symptoms tend to be ignored.
For example the use of a posture chair (one of those chairs with no
back and a sloped seat) has made a massive difference in my health. No
doctor suggested its purchase and none have thought it significant in
anyway besides a general ergonomics are important type of way.
The medical experience for me has been that in the evaluations I've
had the doctors very quickly try to come to a diagnosis. They do the
same tests and then proceed in treatment from what they think may be
the most likely cause to lesser causes. This is sensible but if there
is a symptom in the equation that doesn't fit they either ignore it or
decide it is unrelated.
I would like to take the opposite tack and start with the idea that it
is possible and go from there.
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Request for Question Clarification by
aceresearcher-ga
on
17 Sep 2003 15:47 PDT
Thanks for your response, witness74!
You know, if you don't feel that the doctors have previously
considered enough differential diagnoses (different possible
explanations) for your problem,
a Researcher might actually be able to point you to a number of
possible causes and treatments that you could review with your doctor,
and you could get an explanation from them for each possible cause as
to why they believe that particular diagnosis is or is not relevant.
If you can provide the following information, it would also be
helpful:
1. How long ago did the accident occur?
2. What was the initial diagnosis at that time?
3. What courses of medical treatment have been tried?
Thanks,
aceresearcher
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Clarification of Question by
witness74-ga
on
17 Sep 2003 17:06 PDT
Origin
I was in the passenger seat in a car accident where the top back right
part of my head cracked the windshield. I felt pain and tension
develop below this in the top right section of my neck. I didn't get
immediate medical attention. The pain didn't go away and the left side
became tight to compensate.
Decrease in health
My health continued to get worse as the two sides battled for
tightness. The left side was usually more tired than the right.
I went to a doctor at my university who took X-rays, and prescribed
prescription Tylenol and Physical therapy. The X-ray was normal.
Things get worse and muscle twisting
I was working a programming job and found keeping my head still
increasingly difficult. It was always pulling to the side.
Weakness spread down my arms until it became difficult to hold a book.
The next part sounds confusing but I believe is very important. There
was some type of twisting that occurred where when I dropped my head
down once and then brought it back up it felt like things were aligned
differently and worse. Once this started more of this twisting
occurred. Unfortunately I can't explain it better than that.
During this time other symptoms emerged:
My quadriceps became tight much of the time and I began to have a very
difficult time keeping my neck erect.
Progress
A little over two years ago I bought a posture chair which keeps my
legs below my hips and forces me to lean forward. And when I do this
there is much less tension on the left side of my neck. Since then I
have seen slow progress based on an undoing of this twisting.
Therapies
I've done physical therapy (once for a month, another time for a few
sessions), muscle relaxants (Elavil), chiropractor (month),
anti-inflammatories, acupuncture (once), yoga (a couple months), an
electric home massaging device (many times) and massage (30-40 times).
I feel they have all had beneficial effect but if I did them during a
time while I still had bad habits my health continued to decrease.
X-rays and MRIs have shown no problems. The tests where you push their
fingers to test for damage have shown no problems.
Although I've seen many doctors it seems like they all do the same
tests and come to the same conclusions.
Symptoms
Frequent rotations of the neck to reduce tension.
Tightness in arms, fingers, and quads
Loss of appetite and weight due to my body being tense so often.
Feelings of muscular tiredness in neck.
Difficulty in holding head erect.
Thank you very much for your efforts so far! (Of course there will be
no way to repay you if your advice leads to cure but I will make what
efforts I can towards it by tipping generously.)
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Request for Question Clarification by
boquinha-ga
on
17 Sep 2003 19:33 PDT
Have you tried going to a D.O. (Doctor of Osteopathy) who practices
OMT (Osteopathic Manipulation Techniques)? Just a thought . . .
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Request for Question Clarification by
tutuzdad-ga
on
17 Sep 2003 19:53 PDT
Has spinal damage been completely ruled out? For example, has anyone
(neurosurgeon or orthopedic specialist) tested you for possible
fractured vertibrae in your ENTIRE spine, shoulders, ribs and hips, or
for a pinched nerve or herniated disk in areas other than your neck?
Compressed or otherwise compromised or injured nerves in the spinal
column could be the root of of your pain, even though it is referred
pain (meaning the injury is actually in one place - i.e. lower back -
and could be causing symptoms in another part of your body - i.e.
shoulders, back, neck or head.) You might even seek a second opinion
and specifically ask for them to look for a compromised nerve in your
back and ALSO in area that have previously been examined. It is
possible that an spinal nerve or disk injury (particularly if
undetected and allowed to manifest) could occassionally be exacerbated
by this twisting and stretching of the neck that you do trying to
provide yourself with relief, giving you the sensation that the
twisting and stretching is actually causing the problem when it really
isn't.
Regards;
tutuzdad-ga
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Clarification of Question by
witness74-ga
on
25 Sep 2003 04:55 PDT
I wlll accept an answer that says it is not possible. To be more
specific an answer that says even though the origin and insertion of a
muscle don't change it is not possible that it could wrap around
another bone (doesn't have to be either of the two bones it is
associated.
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