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Origins of web scrolling
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: i_prefer_pi-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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17 Sep 2003 07:57 PDT
Expires: 17 Oct 2003 07:57 PDT Question ID: 257646 |
What are the origins of vertical scrolling in HTML? Who invented scrolling? Any information on the history of scrolling on the web/Internet would be very helpful. |
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Re: Origins of web scrolling
Answered By: iaint-ga on 19 Sep 2003 07:56 PDT Rated: |
Hello i_prefer_pi I suspect that the idea of scrolling web pages wasn't so much invented as something that evolved. When Tim Berners-Lee first invented the hypertext system that became the web, the idea of a graphical browser wasn't foremost in his mind. Most internet access at that time was from character-terminal devices, which could only display plain ASCII text. Because terminals came in a variety of sizes, the amount of text that could fit on one "screen" was dependent upon the user's system, so it wasn't possible to easily design a screenful of information. So the idea of a virtual page with more text than a physical screen, which could be paged up and down, was an obvious way of ensuring that everyone could always read the relevant information. For example, http://www.w3.org/Summary.html is a very early guide to the worldwide web, which at the bottom gives a way in which the web could then be trialled by simply telnetting into a Unix shell account at CERN in Switzerland. Telnet is an inherently text-only method of accessing resources. The first graphical web browser was NCSA's Mosaic (the forerunner of Netscape and Mozilla), and it would have been a logical step to extend the PageUp / PageDown functionality that users were used to seeing on text-based readers into a ScrollUp / ScrollDown functionality such as we see in modern browsers. You can read plenty more about the history of Mosaic at http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Divisions/PublicAffairs/MosaicHistory/ And today we still have the factor that there is no single standard size for a web page. Even if you have your screen resolution set to 800x600 or 1024x768, there is no guarantee that people will use their browser at maximum resolution, so you can not plan a standard page size with which to implement a "turn page" concept. Vertical scrolling is a good solution to the problem. For more information on the history of the web, you can look at http://www.dejavu.org/ -- amongst other things they have examples of early browsers which run as java applets, so you can surf the early 90s web, should you so wish! Regards iaint-ga |
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Re: Origins of web scrolling
From: tutuzdad-ga on 17 Sep 2003 08:18 PDT |
Dear i_prefer_pi-ga : It appears, oddly enough, that the first computers to feature scrolling capabilities were never sold. I found this blurb that dates to the something that took place in the late 70s: ECD Corporation The ECD Corp's MicroMind was a 6502-based computer dating to around the time of the Apple II. It had memory management (!) and an advanced video display with downloadable fonts, up to 132 characters per line, and smooth scrolling. The prototypes were wire-wrapped, as were the initial (and only, alas) models that were actually sold. Its smooth-scrolling capability, unique among micros at the time, made it attractive to hospitals to present the list of TV stations avilable on hospital channels. The cost of $8K was no object. The plan was to go to printed-circuit board, and ads were taken out in Byte magazine offering the machine for $1500. Orders poured in, but the PC version never appeared (the orders were all refunded). The 3 founders of ECD laid off all its employees and held on for awhile, but ECD itself eventually went bankrupt. http://www.aconit.org/hbp/CCC/ccorgs.htm#ECD%20Corp. Please let me know if this is sufficient. Regards; tutuzdad-ga |
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Re: Origins of web scrolling
From: i_prefer_pi-ga on 18 Sep 2003 06:51 PDT |
Dear tutuzdad-ga, Thank you so much for your very insightful comments. That is very helpful. What I am looking for, though, is why the originators of the web/Internet chose scrolling as the method to read information online versus other ways of looking at pages online (i.e. turning pages much like a magazine or newspaper). Any information you can find on that matter would be incredibly helpful. Sincerely, Raquel (i_prefer_pi-ga) |
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