We have two CD writers. We have CD's that we are authorized to
duplicate (burn). As of right now we put the original CD in the
burner, it gets scanned or whatever it does and then we insert the
blank and record it. A bit time consuming and our original CD's are
loosing "quality".
How can we get the original CD content onto our hard drive and just
copy from there. Both computers have Windows XP.
1--- One CD writer is HP cd16ri 16x10x40x IDE Product no.C9628B
serial no. CND700217R
2--- The other is SONY cr-r 52x cd-rw 24x cd-rom-52x CRX225A-U
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Request for Question Clarification by
joseleon-ga
on
24 Sep 2003 08:47 PDT
Hello, pendleton:
The process it's very basic, it's known as to create an *image* of
your original CD and copy it to your hard disk, there are many
software programs out there that make this process a snap. Before post
a complete answer, how much would pay for such software? This way I
could narrow my search or even list free solutions.
Regards.
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Clarification of Question by
pendleton-ga
on
24 Sep 2003 11:22 PDT
joseleon-ga
Can't that be done from the cd writer itself?
It can read it a play it, why can't it copy to the
Hard drive?
I guess that is why I asked the question.
I did not plan to buy software to do this.
Please, find a freebie.
John P.
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Request for Question Clarification by
sublime1-ga
on
24 Sep 2003 11:56 PDT
pendleton...
The software you are currently using to burn CDs probably
has the capability of copying an image of the original CD
to your harddrive, which you can then use to make copies
on CD. What software are you currently using? If it is
Ahead Nero, I can easily answer the question for you.
If it is software with which I am unfamiliar, then it
may take a bit of research.
sublime1-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
joseleon-ga
on
24 Sep 2003 13:51 PDT
Hello, pendleton:
Have you tried to copy the contents of your original CDs to your
hard disk? You just need to do it in the same way as with another
media, for example, a floppy. I mentioned make an image because it's
safer, even if the source CD contains bootable information, music,
etc, etc. To make an CD image you need a software, as far as I know
that feature it's not built in Windows XP.
Regards.
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Clarification of Question by
pendleton-ga
on
24 Sep 2003 16:59 PDT
I see that I can copy a CD content or parts to my hard drive.
I tried a copy and paste but it was "unsupported".
I saw one place about an "image". But that is my Q.
How to do it and then how to use it.
Did a search for Nero software but nothing.
It looks like it should be simple, but when I don'tknow
the moves...................
I looked in the "Help" section but nothing on image.
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Request for Question Clarification by
sublime1-ga
on
24 Sep 2003 17:50 PDT
pendleton...
It would seem that you are using the built-in software, that
comes with Windows XP, to do your copying, and, as joseleon-ga
pointed out, that software does not support imaging. Most CD
writers that you buy today come bundled with copying software
which is a bit more feature-rich than the Windows XP software,
and is likely to include the ability to copy and image to your
harddrive. Ahead Nero is such a program. I wonder if you might
have copies of the CDs that came with your CD writers. In
addition to the drivers for these drives, they may contain
a bundled program such as Ahead Nero which will serve your
needs. That's where my copy came from. If you don't locate
such software on the CDs, we may be able to locate some
freeware program that will do the job.
sublime1-ga
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Clarification of Question by
pendleton-ga
on
24 Sep 2003 19:49 PDT
I really want to get my CD's (12 originals) that my producer allows me
to copy onto my hard drives of different PC so that they don't
deterioate (sp=) with usage of copy.
If there is a free software to do it, let's get it. I search for Nero
and got nothing from the installation CD software.
Thanks. John
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John...
It took awhile to find, and I can't personally vouch for the
the functionality of what I found, since I'm not running
Windows XP, but my bet is, this will do the trick, and it's
free.
A little more than 2/3rds of the way down the page, you'll
find a program called 'XPBURN 1.02 & EASY ISO CREATOR 1.1'.
These two programs are combined in a single setup program,
and are available on that page as a downloadable zip file.
These programs, as well as the others on the page, are the
work of Dirk Paehl:
http://www.paehl.de/english.php
XPBURN runs under XP only, and is a gui for the internal
XP burning function. EASY ISO CREATOR creates an iso image
file from files and folders. EASY ISO CREATOR runs under
Windows 95 through XP. The download link is:
http://www.paehl.de/xpburn.zip
I located this program through a search for freeware on
NewFreeware.com with the keywords 'create iso'. The results
are on this page:
http://www.newfreeware.com/search.php3?q=create+iso&s=1&m=-1&h=1&o=1&z=en
That link showed up in response to a Google search for:
freeware "create iso
://www.google.com/search?q=freeware+%22create+iso
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sublime1-ga |
Clarification of Answer by
sublime1-ga
on
25 Sep 2003 22:58 PDT
John...
Well, I couldn't test XP BURN, but I did try EASY ISO CREATOR
on my system (WIN2K), and it worked fine. You just drag & drop
the contents of the CD you want to copy from Windows Explorer
to the EASY ISO window, and click 'Create ISO'. Then pick a
directory to save to ( the default is C:\ ), and away it goes.
From there, just use the iso file to make your CDs.
sublime1-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
pendleton-ga
on
26 Sep 2003 06:58 PDT
Hello sublime1-ga
We are advancing.
I downloaded the software and can see what you are talking about.
However, my CD is in the CD burner, ROM. You say (and so does Dirk) to
drag and drop from Internet Explorer. There I am stymied.
Help.
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Clarification of Answer by
sublime1-ga
on
26 Sep 2003 08:37 PDT
John...
That would be *Windows* Explorer, which is Microsoft's 'browser'
for Windows, as Internet Explorer is its browser for the internet.
Windows Explorer lets you see the content of your hard drives,
floppy drive, and CD ROM. There's a shortcut to it under 'Programs',
I believe, or you can just go to 'Start' --> 'Run', type in
'explorer' and hit 'enter'.
First open the Easy ISO program, then open Explorer and adjust
the size of either or both programs so you can see them both on
the screen at the same time. Then move to Explorer and navigate
the directory tree until you come to your CD ROM drive. Left-click
on your CD ROM drive, and the contents of the drive will show
up in the right-hand frame of Explorer. Left-click and draw a
box around all the contents, which will efectively 'select all'
of the contents. With all the contents selected, left-click
the shaded, selected contents, continue to hold the left mouse
button down, and move the cursor from the Explorer window over
to the Easy ISO window. Then let go of the mouse button. This
will 'drag and drop' the contents of the CD into the Easy ISO
box. You will see the contents being listed in Easy ISO. Then
pick a directory in which to save the ISO image file
( the default is C:\ ), and away it goes.
Let me know if anything else is unclear.
sublime1-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
pendleton-ga
on
26 Sep 2003 14:35 PDT
hello sublime1
Well we copied something to the hard drive and from there we "copied
or not"
something to a blank CD. Could not hear anything and in a regular CD
player it spun counter clock-wise and no audio.
Now what?
John
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Clarification of Answer by
sublime1-ga
on
26 Sep 2003 18:18 PDT
John...
This is the first time you mentioned that the files you are trying
to copy are music files. I've been following up on what you said here:
"I saw one place about an "image". But that is my Q.
How to do it and then how to use it."
...thinking, as a result, that it was a data CD you were trying to copy.
iso image files are only useful for data CDs. With music CDs, it's
just a matter of copying the .cda files from the original to the
copy.
At this point, I need to go back to what you said here:
"I see that I can copy a CD content or parts to my hard drive.
I tried a copy and paste but it was 'unsupported'."
The first sentence seems to indicate that you can copy the
files from your CD to your hard drive. In the case of most
CDs, this would be a series of files with a '.cda' file
extension. If you can, indeed, copy the files to a folder
on your hard drive, then it is just a matter of using
the XP CD function to transfer them back to a blank CD.
But you note in the next sentence, that:
"I tried a copy and paste but it was 'unsupported'."
Again, I don't have Windows XP, but I assume this to mean
that you tried, in Windows Explorer, to copy the files you
managed to place on your hard drive from the original CD,
and 'paste' them onto your blank CD drive. I don't know
that the Windows XP CD utility supports this method, though
it may. But if it doesn't, is there a way to open the CD
burning program in Windows, first, and then point it to the
.cda files you want to copy...through a dialog box?
On the other hand, if you have XP, you probably have
Windows Media Player 9, which, I believe, does support
the burning of music CDs from .cda files copied to your
hard drive. I also don't have Windows Media Player 9,
but I did at one time, and I believe it's just a matter
of opening the program and exploring the menu until you
come across the option to 'burn an audio CD'. If you
have trouble locating this option, I can try to dig up
a tutorial on the net, but I think the Help file will
be of more value.
Looking forward to your feedback...
sublime1-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
pendleton-ga
on
26 Sep 2003 21:31 PDT
sublime1-ga
Sorry, so sorry. This are radio programs 45 clips of 90 seconds each
on each CD. All are different. 12. Now that you say it, they are like
copying music, voice. We tried it with Windows Media Player and we
could place it on the hard drive, hear it but could not burn it to a
blank CD as Media did not save it in a wav or something like that
format.
Now what? Hang with me. We will get it yet!
John
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Clarification of Answer by
sublime1-ga
on
26 Sep 2003 22:07 PDT
John...
"This are radio programs 45 clips of 90 seconds each
on each CD. All are different. 12."
I'm interpreting this as 12 clips from a 45rpm record,
90 seconds each, on each CD. Correct me if I'm wrong.
"wav or something like that format" just won't do.
I need to know the file extensions of the files on the
original CD. If they are clip#.cda it is one thing.
If they are clip#.wav, it will be another. If they
*are* in a wav-file format, they will need to be
to another format, perhaps mp3, before they will be
playable on a copied CD. But you seem to imply that
the original CD will play in a CD player - or is it
that the files are playable when you copy them to
your hard drive. If the original has .wav files on
the CD, it should not be playable in a CD player
such as you would find in a stereo system, though
you would be able to click on these files as read
via your CD ROM, and they would play in Windows,
using the Media Player.
Please be as specific and elaborate as you can with
the details I am requesting. Then I can answer in
a single reply.
sublime1-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
pendleton-ga
on
27 Sep 2003 07:07 PDT
sublime1
These are total number of 45 (not 45 rpm) radio programs (just
made)that are each 90 seconds long. There is a music intro and then
voice (talking).
I tried checking its properties and it says "audio file" readable with
Windows Media Player. To play them all takes about 1 hour and 10
minutes as there is space between programs.
It says they are .cda
Does that help us or are we stymied?
John
PS--- I will be out all day and probably will not be able to try
things until Monday.
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Clarification of Answer by
sublime1-ga
on
27 Sep 2003 17:20 PDT
Hi John...
Well, the fact that they are .cda files let's us know where we stand.
If you look at the contents of the original CD in Windows Explorer,
you'll see that these .cda files are 1KB in size, and thus, contain
no real data. They are essentially 'shortcuts' to the track on the CD
where the data actually resides.
Now, you *can* use Windows Media Player 9 (WMP9) to copy the CD
to a blank CD, but this will leave you in the same place you
started - you must insert the original CD and copy it to the
blank one. The only way to copy the actual data in the tracks
to your hard drive is to convert them to another format.
With WMP9 your options are to convert the tracks to mp3 format
(as similar software offered by others will do), or convert
them to Windows Media Audio (WMA) format. Both of these formats
can then be burned onto a blank CD. The thing is, that not all
CD players will support these formats. The newer ones *may*
but older ones will not be able to play these back.
So, whether you want to go this route depends on your purposes.
If you are making copies for the general public, and want the
CDs to be playable on all CD players, you are pretty much
stuck using your original method of copying straight from
the original CD to a blank, or paying for conversion software.
If you want to make copies that will only play on the newer
CD players, you can 'rip' the original CD, which means to
transform the data into .mp3 or .wma file format, and copy
it to your hard drive. From there, you can burn a CD from
these files on your hard drive, bypassing the original CD.
WMP9 is capable of both functions, as explained in some
detail on this page from the Windows Media website:
http://windowsmedia.com/9series/whatsnew/CopyMusic.asp?page=2&lookup=CopyMusic#
Just making a copy of the CD, as you've been doing, is
explained under the heading:
"To create your own Audio or Data CD"
'Ripping' a CD, and copying the data to your hard drive is
covered under:
"To copy Music tracks from a CD to your PC"
If you enlarge the third image under this heading, you'll
see that, on the dialog box shown, under 'format', is a
drop-down menu in which 'Windows Media Audio (variable bit rate)'
is highlighted. If you open WMP9 on your computer, you will
be able to explore the other options available, in terms of
the format in which the music will be saved to your hard drive.
http://windowsmedia.com/9series/images/Quickstart/03A-AdjustDefaultQuality.gif
The notes just beneath the image say:
"You can also copy CDs to your PC in the MP3 format with an MP3
Creation Pack Plug-in."
This would seem to imply that the mp3 format is not available
as a format by default, and that you must purchase a plug-in
from one of the vendors on the linked page here, to save the
CD contents in mp3 format:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/windowsxp/buypacks.aspx
The first vendor listed, Cyberlink, has a plug-in for $10 here:
http://www.gocyberlink.com/english/products/powerdvd/winxp_plugin.asp
Other media players, such as Real One Player 2.0, which is
available for free, offer the ability to save the data in mp3
format, but the quality of the saved data in the free version
is somewhat less than CD quality, at 96 Kbps, versus 128 Kbps.
In order to obtain that level of quality, you must also purchase
an upgraded version.
Then there are other programs which will convert the mp3 files
you have saved to your hard drive back into .cda or cd audio
format when you burn a CD copy. One will perform both functions,
allowing you to first copy the original CD to your hard drive
in mp3 format, and then to burn a CD, converting the mp3 files
into cda format. I cannot personally recommend any of them
as being the best, or guarantee the quality of their results,
but most are free to try, with some limitations built in.
The following cost a bit of money, but may be worth it in
terms of the quality and consistency of the results:
CDMaster32 ($30 USD [Electronic Download available] )
CDMaster32 Deluxe ($39.99 USD)
Both will do cda to mp3 _and_ mp3 to cda
cda to mp3 tutorial here:
http://www.zittware.com/Products/CDMaster32/Tutorials/cd-ripper.html
mp3 to cda tutorial here:
http://www.zittware.com/Products/CDMaster32/mp3tocd.html
Program details here:
http://www.zittware.com/Products/CDMaster32/cdmaster32detail.html
MP3 CD Maker - $24.95 - mp3 to cda
http://www.mp3cdmaker.net/index.html?google
MP3 CD Converter - $19.95 - mp3 to cda
http://www.allformp3.com/mp3_cd/mcc.htm
Freeware programs can be found via a tailored search on
NewFreeware.com, for 'cd to mp3' or 'mp3 to cd' with
filters for 'Windows XP', 'English' and 'freeware':
'cd to mp3'
http://www.newfreeware.com/search.php3?q=cd+to+mp3&s=1&m=-1&h=1&o=1&z=
'mp3 to cd'
http://www.newfreeware.com/search.php3?q=mp3+to+cd&s=1&m=-1&h=1&o=1&z=en
cd to mp3:
FreeRip - cda to mp3
http://www.newfreeware.com/audio/717/
AV MP3 Morper - cda to mp3 + other features
http://www.newfreeware.com/audio/1673/
Media Monkey - cda to mp3
http://www.newfreeware.com/audio/1654/
...and more, on the search results page, above.
mp3 to cd:
Burn4Free:
http://www.newfreeware.com/audio/1562/
...possibly more, on the search results page, above.
That summarizes and specifies your options.
It will be up to you to decide whether you want to
proceed with the potential benefits of paid software,
(user-friendly, reliability, support) or go ahead with
the available freeware. It will also be up to you to
install the software and familiarize yourself with its
interface and functionality, since I don't have XP.
I hope I've made this venture into new territory a
little easier for you. Best of luck!
sublime1-ga
Searches done, via Google:
".cda to .mp3
://www.google.com/search?q=%22.cda+to+.mp3
".mp3 to .cda
://www.google.com/search?q=%22.mp3+to+.cda
".cda to .mp3" freeware
://www.google.com/search?q=%22.cda+to+.mp3%22+freeware
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Request for Answer Clarification by
pendleton-ga
on
16 Mar 2004 19:30 PST
I just got this from a man who is helping me to get some CD clips on
my web site. I can leave the whole CD of 45 programs on my hard drive.
What I always wanted!!!!
I changed the bitrate to 32 and cut the volumen of each clip from
about 700k to 350K. Sound the same to me. Great!
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Subject: to extract audio from CDs
Please follow the following steps:
1. Download free rip mp3 from:
http://www.freerip.com/download/freeripmp3.exe
2. install the program (while installing make sure you UNCHECK the
'Install My search Bar..' option which comes in the 6th or 7th window.
3. While running the program for first time an Option dialog box will come
up.
Go to the encoding tab, in the MP3 box select Stereo: as '0-Mono'.
Select Min Bitrate as 64. (Actually 32 is just good and not so bulking
when emailing.)
In the freedb tab uncheck 'Automatically search freedb when online'.
Press OK
In case you make a mistake, you can get the option window again from
CD -> Options from the top menu.
4. Put the audio CD in the CD-ROM drive.
All the tracks will appear on the window. Else, press Ctrl-n
On the first left menu, select Options and have a folder prepared and
numbered (named) as to what will go into it. Put that as the path when
the MP3 rips will go.
5. From the menu do Edit -> Select all
6. From the menu do Rip -> Rip to MP3
7. Now wait while the program convert all the tracks to MP3 format. After
it is done. Double click on any of the newly created MP3 file and listen
to the audio quality to see whether it is acceptable.
8. After you are satisfied with the quality, you can do it for all the
15 CDs. Make sure you arrange all the MP3 files corresponding to a CD into
differnt folders so that searching them afterwards doesn't become painful.
--- God bless you to know and do His will!
John Pendleton
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Clarification of Answer by
sublime1-ga
on
16 Mar 2004 20:29 PST
John...
I'm so pleased to hear that it worked out well for you!
sublime1-ga
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