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Subject: * 0800 * Dial Up Access Still Exist in the UK?
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: addie-ga
List Price: $3.50
Posted: 27 Sep 2003 10:17 PDT
Expires: 27 Oct 2003 09:17 PST
Question ID: 260778
Ok, this is a long shot. I'm guessing a lot of the researchers here
are USA based, but with your Google skills you could probably still
help me out. If you are from the USA and still want to try and help me
out, please see the note to USA researchers at the bottom of this
question :)
 
I am looking for a few UK Internet Provider that offers 0800 Internet
access - and the dial up number being an 0800 one and NOT the 0808
number that the majority of ISP's have converted to. The reason being
is that I have a phone line in my University flat which allows 0800
numbers out, but no other numbers unless I pay a monthly fee much
larger then that of an ISP.
 
Many ISP's claim to offer "0800 Internet access" but actually use an
0808 dial up number.
 
I will accept no other answer other than one containing one or more
ISP's Names / Monthly Charge and Dial Up Number in full (either posted
here or linked to) and that number to be an 0800 number. Be careful
that the number is present and valid, an old non-ISP site may still
list a number for an ISP that has since closed or migrated to the 0808
number.
 
Note to US Researchers:
In the UK, we have free phone dial up numbers for our Internet access
which for a monthly subscription you can use the free phone number and
not pay any call charges (instead of using a per minute charged
number). Free phone (non-geographic) numbers are 0800, 0500, 0808. In
recent years for
reasons not relevant the majority of Internet providers have switched
from using 0800 numbers to using 0808 numbers. While this is still
free, it is not recongised by my University switch board and therefore
only an 0800 number will do. We also have non-geographic local call
rate numbers 0845, 0345 which also won't do. Only 0800 numbers are
acceptable :)
 
Thanks
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Subject: Re: * 0800 * Dial Up Access Still Exist in the UK?
From: owain-ga on 27 Sep 2003 12:02 PDT
 
I have found http://www.chic.cc/0800/ which appears to be current.
They say:

NTL Cable Phone Users CAN access our service : If this is you please
request our 0800 dial-up server rather than the standard 0808 FRIACO
server. There is currently an additional once only set-up fee of £10
for this 0800 server, and we can only offer the unlimited £11.95
service without roaming. 

It appears your phone line will have to transmit Calling Line Identity
as the standard service is from one phone number only.

Their prices run from about GBP 11 /month for 24-hour access down to
GBP 5 / month for 'night owl' access only, which might suit you if you
have daytime access from computer labs.

One option you could also consider is getting your own 0800 number
from a number of suppliers eg
http://www.telesave.co.uk/atwork/0800.htm
"Telesave at work will charge you nothing for providing you with your
own 0800 number and just 4p per minute to receive calls on it!"
You could get one 0800 number set up to forward to an 0845 or
geographic ISP - just had a thought, I don't know if you could get an
0800 number to forward to the ISP's 0808 :-) - and another to forward
to a call-through service such as Telediscount.co.uk which would allow
you to make voice calls.

I used googlegroups to search news:uk.telecom for cheapest 0800 for
the Telesave  information.

Owain
Subject: Re: * 0800 * Dial Up Access Still Exist in the UK?
From: noggywoggy-ga on 27 Sep 2003 14:58 PDT
 
There's a reason why "freephone" ISP's don't use the 0800 range of
numbers any more and it's down to the FRIACO system they use that the
other commenter above mentioned. FRIACO numbers are specifically
intended for internet access, hence the acronym (flat rate internet
access call origination) and they cover the 0808 range, the 0800 range
is meant for free non internet calls. You won't be able to find an ISP
that offers 0800 access at all any more because of this system. Best
bet is to get in touch with the people at your uni and talk them round
to offering you access to 0808 numbers considering they're all
classified as being free too.
Subject: Re: * 0800 * Dial Up Access Still Exist in the UK?
From: addie-ga on 27 Sep 2003 15:36 PDT
 
noggywoggy-ga:

I was well aware of the reasons behind the change implemented by UK
telco's - but as stated in my post these reasons are not relevant. I
am also aware that a minority of company's do *still* offer 0800
access for reasons similar to my situation and I would assume that
these company's charge for this privilege.


owain-ga:

Many thanks for your reply, you did great assuming (from some of your
terminology used) that you are aren't British! I will e-mail these
people and see what they have to offer. I am a little wary of that
site though, .cc not being an UK domain and the page layout looking a
little to WYSIWYG to be trusted at first glance and to be taken
seriously as a "reliable" ISP.


Good going so far guys, we're getting closer!

:)
Subject: Re: * 0800 * Dial Up Access Still Exist in the UK?
From: owain-ga on 28 Sep 2003 06:00 PDT
 
*splutters in indignation*

I'm British, but by habit write in American on Google Answers!

Owain
Subject: Re: * 0800 * Dial Up Access Still Exist in the UK?
From: jackburton-ga on 29 Sep 2003 02:46 PDT
 
AOL lets you connect with an 0800 number: 
  
"AOL's Freephone access numbers let you connect to AOL in the UK
without paying telephone charges!
Numbers:	0808 9909000  (BT customers only)
			          0800 9177445
Speed: V.90 (maximum 56,000 bps)
Network: AOLnet
Surcharge: None -- only AOL UK members on AOL Freephone price plans
(Flat Rate, Light Usage or Off-Peak All The Time) can access these
numbers."
[ AOL Keyword: "Access Numbers" ]

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