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Subject: Help with lowering CA drivers insurance rates
Category: Reference, Education and News > Consumer Information
Asked by: jpbischke-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 29 Sep 2003 14:07 PDT
Expires: 29 Oct 2003 13:07 PST
Question ID: 261314
Help with lowering CA drivers insurance rates

I recently moved from MN to CA and my auto insurance premium has
quadrupled from roughly $600 every six months to roughly $2400.  The
reason for this is that I have a few moving violations that in MN were
not legally allowed to be reported to insurance companies but in CA
are.

What I'm looking for are possible solutions to lower my auto insurance
premiums.  I would like to be in the $1000-$1200 semi-annual range
(which was what was initially quoted to me before they ran my driving
record).  A few of the possibilities that I would be open to:

-Taking some type of traffic school in California in order to reduce
the number of points on my record
-Switching insurance companies and/or modifying my current coverage
-Switching vehicles (this is a last resort as I really like what I
drive and don't want to go through the hassle of selling my vehicle
and buying a new one)

Possibilities that won't work for me:
-Getting married (I know it would lower my premiums but I'm not ready
yet!)
-Not driving (for work and school purposes I need to drive)
-Doing anything illegal

Here are some additional details regarding me, my vehicle and my
policy:

*Me*
-27 year old single white male
-Living in Santa Monica, CA (90401)
-Items on my driving record include a minor speeding ticket (11/2000),
a minor speeding ticket (07/2002) and an improper lane use (06/2003)
-I did have one claim on my insurance in 08/2002 when I was the victim
of a hit-and-run where the offender was never found.  My car was
parked overnight so there was only vehicle damage to the tune of $2700
or so.

*My Vehicle*
-2001 White Chevrolet Tahoe LT
-Approximately 44K Miles
-Driver and Passenger Air Bags
-Currently registered in Minnesota but I need to switch the
registration to California very soon for student residency purposes

*My Policy*
-I am with State Farm and have been with them for 11 years now
-I have a renter's policy with them which qualifies me for a
multi-line discount (10% I believe)
-My auto insurance policy is as follows (with the amounts I am charged
for each):
Bodily Injury/Property Damage Liability ($100K/person, $300K/accident)
= $1011
Medical Payments ($25K/person) = $196
$250 Deductible Comprehensive = $211
$500 Deductible Collision = $742
Uninsured Motor Vehicle = $189
There's a bunch of other stuff on there (like Emergency Road Service,
etc. but none of the other stuff adds much to the premium)
My semi-annual premium is *$2,257.34*


Ideally I'd like to do something (like traffic school) to reduce my
points and get my insurance premium back to what was originally quoted
(about $1000 per six months).  However, if that's not a possibility
then I would like to look at changing providers (although I don't know
if I'll be able to beat the current quote by much).  Finally, if there
are no other options then I guess I would look to sell the Tahoe and
purchase an older, less expensive vehicle with a high safety rating
that would lower my premium.

Information that would assist me is what I'm looking for here.  I'll
be generous with my rating knowing that there won't be a
black-and-white answer here.  Please feel free to ask me for any
additional information as I'm sure there are some things that I may
have left out.  Finally, I'm willing to throw in a big tip if we can
come up with some kind of magical (yet legal) solution that gets my
premium back down to what I thought it was going to be originally
without having to sell my vehicle.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Answer  
Subject: Re: Help with lowering CA drivers insurance rates
Answered By: taxmama-ga on 30 Sep 2003 06:37 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear jpbischke,

Welcome to California - and insurance shock!

The same kind of thing happened to me, with a good driving record
and no accidents, when I moved from Irvine, CA to Van Nuys, CA
several years ago - my rates DOUBLED. 

So, here are a few suggestions:

1) Ask your insurance agent if there is a cheaper ZIP code anywhere
within the radius of where you want to be. ZIP codes do make a big
difference in rates. (Either the area has a lot of accidents, or 
many expensive vehicles to be hit in an accident.)

2) Raise your deductible as high as you dare. If you're not in 
the habit of having accidents, just getting tickets, you'll rarely
need to pay out of pocket. 

3) To compensate, raise your uninsured motorist coverage. They don't
really explain it well, but UM covers YOUR expenses if you are hit by
someone without coverage, or with low coverage. 

4) You don't say what your assets are worth. But step back and take a
look at your net worth, not including pensions or 401(k)s. (Do include
IRAs.) If your net worth is nowhere near $300,000,  you don't need 
that much liability coverage. You only need enough to cover your assets,
essentially. 

5) Do some shopping for insurance carriers. I recently made a comment in
my newsletter about being annoyed with my insurance agent because his staff
was messing up my policies. A reader shot back - call Mercury Insurance.

6) Going to AIS, an insurance broker, putting in your information, which
was surprisingly well presented, and the coverages you now have  - came
up with a policy of $1571.00 per 6 months, through Mercury Insurance
http://www.aisinsurance.com/PLTP/Pages/InstantQuote.aspx
That's already a $1600 per year savings. (you can get an online quote.)
Several companies I know use AIS to help them shop for the best prices. 

7) Putting an Anti-theft system on the car will cut rates: Is your vehicle 
equipped with an approved electronic recovery system (Lojack, Teletrac, 
On Star)?    

8) Set your annual driving/mileage level at around 12,000. 
The lower the mileage, the lower the rate. 

I am not sure how much going to traffic school will reduce your rate, but
it doesn't hurt to ask. I know that if you were a senior, it would help. 
Do ask the broker - California has some wonderful traffic school options -
comedy traffic schools, pizza traffic schools, hey, we may even have 
chocolate traffic schools! Besides, you never know who you'll meet there. 

Note: You can skip esurance.com - they show higher premiums than AIS ($1972)

Some other places to test rates?

http://www.geico.com/
http://www.progressive.com/
http://info.insure.com/auto/
http://www.lowermybills.com/iau/index.jsp?state=California

I hope this helps.


Your TaxMama-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by jpbischke-ga on 01 Oct 2003 11:50 PDT
This is good stuff.  Let me respond to each item one by one:

1.  I'm in a lease and can't move so this one is out.

2.  Good idea.

3.  Good idea as well.

4.  Yeah, I need this much liability.

5.  I will definitely do this.

6.  Great info!

7.  Good.  Any ideas as to which companies offer a discount for these
devices?  State Farm doesn't give me anything for OnStar.  Also are
LoJack, Onstar, etc. all treated the same or do some insurance
companies offer discounts for some but not others?

8.  How low can this be set?  Right now I'm not driving a ton
mileage-wise so this could help me out a lot.

9.  Traffic School - Do you know where I would go to find out more
about this?  Even if it would be a minor discount it would probably be
worth it for me.

10.  Testing Rates - Have you found any of these to be typically
better or worse?  I'll likely try them all but would like to start
with the ones that are most likely to give me the best rates.

Thanks for the answer.  After you've clarified these points I'm ready
to give you a five-star rating. :)

Clarification of Answer by taxmama-ga on 02 Oct 2003 16:05 PDT
Dear jpbischke, 

Yes, I had a feeling that if you've just moved here, 
you'd be tied in for at least a year. 

You asked:  
7.  Good.  Any ideas as to which companies offer a discount for these
devices?  State Farm doesn't give me anything for OnStar.  Also are
LoJack, Onstar, etc. all treated the same or do some insurance
companies offer discounts for some but not others?

How interesting, I just found this site that lists discounts for 
anti-theft devices, by state:
http://www.microtrackmaster.com/autoinsurancediscounts.htm

Incidentally, it just occurred to me, many insurance companies
will provide the anti-theft discount if you use The Club, too 
(much less expensive than LoJack).
 
Without doing a great deal of research, I don't know which 
companies offer the discounts. I know that Farmers does. 
(I have been hearing really unpleasant things from clients
about State Farm not settling their members' claims, so I'd
be reluctant to recommend them.)

If it were me, I'd pick out the top three companies, as to
rate, and call them about their discount policies. Or, if
you go to a broker, like AIS, they'll already know. 
(Hey, that's right, before the Internet, brokers used to 
know this stuff '~)  Sometimes, we forget. )



8.  How low can this be set?  Right now I'm not driving a ton
mileage-wise so this could help me out a lot.

Now that I am working at home, we have my mileage set at 
7,500 miles. I think we have the MG down as less than 5,000.
So, ask the broker where the breaks are. Most likely, each
company will have a slightly different level. 

 
You also asked:
9.  Traffic School - Do you know where I would go to find out more
about this?  Even if it would be a minor discount it would probably be
worth it for me.
 
Here's a list of links to traffic schools in Los Angeles County
http://www.traffic-school.org/county/los-angeles.html

You may go to traffic school online - and just take a test.
But, whatever you do, if you go to a school and they offer
to let you pay but not show up - pick another school. 
(Don't ask. But, yes, I know people who've done time for
running their schools that way.)

And then you asked one more thing:
10.  Testing Rates - Have you found any of these to be typically
better or worse?  I'll likely try them all but would like to start
with the ones that are most likely to give me the best rates.
 
I'd call AIS, and Geico and Progressive.
You already know what Mercury will do for you. 

Ohhh! I just remembered. I know someone who specializes in auto
insurance for folks who've had accidents - call George and Alex at 
A Pacific Southwest Insurance (818) 701-1033 
If they can't help you - they'll know who can.

I think you'll do just fine. 

Best wishes,

Your TaxMama-ga

Clarification of Answer by taxmama-ga on 08 Oct 2003 21:03 PDT
Hi Again, 

Incidentally, my insurance company just sent me lots of new bills
and my agent hasn't returned phone calls for weeks. (His secretary
said something odd about his mother is getting his faxes and
forwarding them to him, huh?)

So, I just followed the advice I gave you - and saved about $600.00
per year. 

Good luck with your new rates.

Best wishes,

Your TaxMama-ga
jpbischke-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
I ended up getting insurance through Mercury for $1445 every six
months.  More expensive than I was hoping for but still a heckuva lot
cheaper than the $2300 every six months I was originally quoted by
State Farm.  Thanks so much for the helpful information!  I have
another insurance related question posted here
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=267371 so if you have
any thoughts on that one, please feel free to add them.  Thanks again.

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