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Subject:
Quicken archiving
Category: Business and Money > Finance Asked by: pnoeric-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
30 Sep 2003 12:39 PDT
Expires: 30 Oct 2003 11:39 PST Question ID: 261619 |
Hi, I'm using Quicken 2004 on Windows and want to figure out how to archive out some of my old info-- I've been a Quicken user since like '98 or so, and in that time, I have opened and closed at least 20 credit cards, CDs, etc. plus I've changed banks (and checking and savings accounts) twice in that time, too ...so now my Quicken file is full of all those old unused accounts and old transactions and just a lot of fluff that I don't like in there. I've already hidden the unused accounts but that's just a stopgap measure: my Quicken data file is 11 megs and I think that means it's time to slim it down! I want to know three things: 1. How can I archive, say, everything I haven't used since 2001, in a way that if I need to go back and look at an old transaction, I can? 2. If something is archived, how does it deal with keeping the balance right in the account? Does Quicken just put one big balance adjustment in place of all the transactions that came out? 3. Is there anything else I should know about doing this? (I.e. is this the right way to approach this problem?) thank you very much, Eric |
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Subject:
Re: Quicken archiving
Answered By: sublime1-ga on 02 Oct 2003 15:38 PDT |
pnoeric... Thank you for acnowledging my work as an acceptable answer. I wish there were a better option available, but that's all there are. And yes, I'd say 11MB is a bit too bloated to continue with or to use the archive method. Mine's only about a half a megabyte! So your best bet for slimming the files to a manageable size is the 'start new year' option. I'll repost the information here: There is another option in addition to the one mentioned by csmba-ga. I have Quicken '99, but I'm sure the options are similar in 2004. Archiving simply archives the previous years' transactions to a separate file, but does not remove these transactions from your current file. The other option is called 'Start New Year'. This saves a copy of your current file and starts a new one with only this year's transactions and unresolved invoices remaining. This would be the thing to do to slim down the Quicken file you are using on a daily basis, while still having access to the previous content. From the help file, here are the advantages and disadvantages of each method: "Archiving vs making a year-end copy" "Many people are accustomed to organizing and storing their files at the end of the year for safekeeping. You can do this with your Quicken data, too, in one of two ways: Archiving copies all transactions dated earlier than this year and places them in a separate file. Your current file is untouched, and you keep using it as usual. The advantage to this method is that you can still create reports that include all your historical data." "Starting a new year copies your current file and then removes your transactions dated earlier than this year. Your current file then contains only transactions dated this year (along with uncleared transactions and all investment transactions). If your file contains invoice/receivable transactions, Quicken retains all unpaid transactions such as unpaid invoices as well as invoices created prior to the date you specified but which are linked to payments that fall within the new date range. We recommend this method only if your data files are getting so large that regular backups are inconvenient. [familiar?] Disadvantages of this method are:" "You won't be able to use last year's transactions in reports." "If you don't reconcile your accounts regularly, the Start New Year option won't work well, because your old transactions won't be cleared." "If you use online banking to update your credit card accounts, the Start New Year option removes the previous year's transactions from your accounts (including payee information). When payee information is removed, online banking may not be able to match payees and categories correctly the next time you update your register." Copyright (c) 1998 Intuit, Inc. Obviously this would work best if your accounts are all reconciled on a regular basis. As to your points: 1. With either method, it is not possible to archive everything prior to a arbitrary date such as 'prior to 2001. You can either archive everything prior to this year, while retaining the data in your current file, or you can archive everything to date and keep using a 'new year' file with only this year's data. 2. I haven't utilized either method, so I can't say how Quicken handles the balance issue, but I'm sure you're correct, and it simply creates a 'starting balance' based on the ending balance of the data which is removed, in the 'new year' option. 3. I think I covered everything else you need to know, and I think that the 'new year' option is what you need to do to reduce the filesize you're using. Due to the caveat: "If you don't reconcile your accounts regularly, the Start New Year option won't work well, because your old transactions won't be cleared", I would recommend making every effort to reconcile your accounts to the best of your ability prior to utilizing the 'new year' method. Then again, if you're not in the habit of reconciling them, perhaps it won't make any difference... : ) Please do not rate this answer until you are satisfied that the answer cannot be improved upon by means of a dialog established through the "Request for Clarification" process. sublime1-ga My research strategy was to explore the Quicken help file. |
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Subject:
Re: Quicken archiving
From: csmba-ga on 30 Sep 2003 15:22 PDT |
have you tried this? http://www.intuit.com/support/quicken/docs/w_archive.html I am not sure it works (it sounds more like a backup then archiving operation) and i dont have a quicken on this computer so I can not check it out myself.. let me know if it does the trick. regards. |
Subject:
Re: Quicken archiving
From: sublime1-ga on 30 Sep 2003 16:17 PDT |
pnoeric... There is another option in addition to the one mentioned by csmba-ga. I have Quicken '99, but I'm sure the options are similar in 2004. Archiving simply archives the previous year's transactions to a separate file, but does not remove last year's transactions from your current file. The other option is called 'Start New Year'. This saves a copy of your current file and starts a new one with only this year's transactions and unresolved invoices remaining. This would be the thing to do to slim down the Quicken file you are using on a daily basis, while still having access to the previous content. From the help file, here are the advantages and disadvantages of each method: "Archiving vs making a year-end copy" "Many people are accustomed to organizing and storing their files at the end of the year for safekeeping. You can do this with your Quicken data, too, in one of two ways: Archiving copies all transactions dated earlier than this year and places them in a separate file. Your current file is untouched, and you keep using it as usual. The advantage to this method is that you can still create reports that include all your historical data." "Starting a new year copies your current file and then removes your transactions dated earlier than this year. Your current file then contains only transactions dated this year (along with uncleared transactions and all investment transactions). If your file contains invoice/receivable transactions, Quicken retains all unpaid transactions such as unpaid invoices as well as invoices created prior to the date you specified but which are linked to payments that fall within the new date range. We recommend this method only if your data files are getting so large that regular backups are inconvenient. [familiar?] Disadvantages of this method are:" "You won't be able to use last year's transactions in reports." "If you don't reconcile your accounts regularly, the Start New Year option won't work well, because your old transactions won't be cleared." "If you use online banking to update your credit card accounts, the Start New Year option removes the previous year's transactions from your accounts (including payee information). When payee information is removed, online banking may not be able to match payees and categories correctly the next time you update your register." Copyright (c) 1998 Intuit, Inc. Obviously this would work best if your accounts are all reconciled on a regular basis. As to your points: 1. With either method, it is not possible to archive everything prior to a arbitrary date such as 'prior to 2001. You can either archive everything prior to this year, while retaining the data in your current file, or you can archive everything to date and keep using a 'new year' file with only this year's data. 2. I haven't utilized either method, so I can't say how Quicken handles the balance issue, but I'm sure you're correct, and it simply creates a 'starting balance' based on the ending balance of the data which is removed, in the 'new year' option. 3. I think I covered everything else you need to know, and I think that the 'new year' option is what you need to do to reduce the filesize you're using. Since the solutions that are available don't hit precisely on your points, I'm posting this as a comment. If you feel this is an acceptable answer, I will post it as one. sublime1-ga |
Subject:
Re: Quicken archiving
From: pnoeric-ga on 02 Oct 2003 10:58 PDT |
Sounds like Quicken encourages data file bloat ;-) I don't reconcile all my accounts very well, so it seems like maybe I should experiment with the 'Start New Year' option-- tho I SO wish it was 'Start New Year (As Of Two Years Ago)' or something :-) Removing everything prior to 2003 is too soon, but everything prior to 2001 or so would be perfect. Ugh. Anyhow, yes, please re-post as answer, it looks like you put some time into it and that is appreciated. best Eric |
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