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Legality of Recording Cable TV Programs
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: dumbandcurious-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
12 Oct 2003 18:25 PDT
Expires: 11 Nov 2003 17:25 PST Question ID: 265595 |
Background: A friend of mine, who doesn't have cable TV and doesn't reside with me, wants me to tape record Cable TV programs for his private viewing. No remuneration is involved. Location: California, USA. Question: Is it legal to record Cable TV programs for a friend's viewing? Detail: I consider this practice to be unethical, at best. However, nowadays, protesting activities as unethical yields much laughter by most people. Therefore, I would like this question to be answered by citing sources regarding its legality. I would also like a final statement which indicates -- in layman terms -- what your conclusion is and specifies any penalties that may be involved in violation of the law, if the practice is indeed illegal. This is not a request for legal advice. Sweetener: Conscientious answer reaps grateful tip. |
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Re: Legality of Recording Cable TV Programs
From: pinkfreud-ga on 12 Oct 2003 18:58 PDT |
Here's some material that may be of interest: "The final example is when I receive a copy of The New York Times, or an article, on my computer, and decide to copy it to a floppy disc or perhaps to download it to my computer and e-mail it to a friend or relative. that is a more difficult problem. At the present time, and even under these new treaties, that circumstance will be dealt with somewhat differently from one country to another. In the United States, we have the Doctrine of Fair Use, which means that in certain cases when one makes a copy of a copyrighted work -- whether it's a photocopy, or a videotape of a television program, or a digital copy from a computer transmission of the type in this case -- in certain circumstances where you have not fundamentally violated the principal economic rights of the copyright owner or harmed them in any significant way, that copying of the work can be considered a "fair use" and can be done without permission or any compensation to the copyright owner. Other countries have taken different approaches. They've said yes, we need to permit that kind of activity, partly because it's just ridiculous to try to stomp it out everywhere, but on the other hand we understand there is a right that the intellectual property owner has so we will recognize that that is private copying and will grant a right of private copying -- but then we will attach a royalty or a levy to the equipment that is used to make the copy. To the photocopying machine, in the case of a photocopy. To the blank tape or video-cassette recorder, if it's a video work." http://www.usembassy-israel.org.il/publish/press/commerce/archive/1997/april/dc20407.htm "Once a program is broadcast, the copyright owner has already obtained revenue from advertising or cable or satellite subscription fees. Copyright laws allow for copies of copyrighted material to be considered fair use of that material if making the copies does not affect the market value of the material or deprive the copyright holder of sales or royalty revenue from that material. Some TV programs are available on prerecorded video tapes or DVDs, and making copies of those programs, even copies of originals recorded from television broadcast, can not be considered fair use of the material because obtaining a copy of a recording from a broadcast instead of purchasing the prerecorded video would deprive the copyright owner of sales revenue. However, if a program is not available on a prerecorded video tape or DVD, obtaining a copy of a recording from a broadcast does not deprive the owner of any sales revenue since a prerecorded video tape of the program can not be purchased." http://www.alfredsplace.com/whoarewe.htm |
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Re: Legality of Recording Cable TV Programs
From: bfrazjd-ga on 13 Oct 2003 12:02 PDT |
The United States Supreme Court has answered this one for us in SONY CORP. v. UNIVERSAL CITY STUDIOS, INC., 464 U.S. 417 (1984), available at http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&court=US&case=/us/464/417.html. In that case, the Court was called upon to answer whether recording televised content on a video tape recorder constituted copyright infringement. The court found that although technically the act of recording such content did infringe copyright, it was a permissible fair use as long as the recorded content was used for noncommercial, PRIVATE, time-shifting, i.e., to record content otherwise legally viewable to watch at another, more convenient time. Note that the court said PRIVATE time-shifting. To record cable content for a friend who does not have cable is clearly not a private use--moreover, your activity deprives the cable company of revenue (they would clearly prefer your friend to subscribe). This is not a fair use, in my opinion, and could subject you and your friend to claims of direct copyright infringement by both the cable company and the owners of the copyrights in the content broadcast on the cable system. For relevant penalties, see Chapter 5 of Title 17 of the U.S. Code at http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/17/chapters/5/toc.html. |
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Re: Legality of Recording Cable TV Programs
From: dumbandcurious-ga on 14 Oct 2003 00:47 PDT |
My sincere thanks to pinkfreud-ga and bfrazjd_ga for providing comments on this issue. My thinking -- and the reason I submitted the question in the first place -- is very much along the lines of bfrazjd_ga, who commented that "to record cable content for a friend who does not have cable is clearly not a private use--moreover, your activity deprives the cable company of revenue (they would clearly prefer your friend to subscribe). This is not a fair use, in my opinion, ..." |
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Re: Legality of Recording Cable TV Programs
From: oldfox33-ga on 25 Oct 2003 14:48 PDT |
I disagree that this is not Fair Use. There may be several reasons why the friend does not or cannot subscribe to cable TV and perhaps the friend only wants this particular program feed for some scholarly, personal or collector purpose. If the friend came over to your house and brought his own videotape, taped the program, and took it away with him, it would certainly be Fair Use. The Fair Use Doctrine is exceedingly merky and undefined. The Register of Copyrights at the Library of Congress refuses to define Fair Use. The Copyright Clearance Center that helps publishers sue infringers, refuses to define it. A strict reading of the (c) law in 1984 made the sale of BetaMax recorders complicit in (c) infringement until the Supremes spoke in Sony v. Universal City. I do not accept that such taping is a copyright violation at all. If you want to decline your friends request for some other reason, you are welcome to do so, but for (c) reasons, it is a poor excuse. Even apart from the Fair Use doctrine, every copyright owner (or licensee, which is what the cable company is) reserves the complete right to permit whatever copying they like. The West Publishing Company allows every lawyer to make unlimited copies of their copyrighted material in case reporters and statute books all day long, every day of the week. You might want to call the cable company and ask them what they say, explaining the reason or purpose that your friend cannot get the cable feed himself. The Fair Use Doctrine is about what is "fair" not what is a total lock down. Can he borrow the tape from public library? If so I would argue that is despositive, especially if it is for a scholarly, critical or collector purpose. No matter what, no enforcement will occur. Fair Use is ethical. Failing all that, your friend can buy the tape from Burrelle's video monitoring service for $40. |
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