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Subject: Expatriation & marriage
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: beachgirl-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 13 Oct 2003 15:08 PDT
Expires: 12 Nov 2003 14:08 PST
Question ID: 265885
Can a marriage license of 22 years be nullifed and/or voided by
someone who expatriated out of the "Federal United States" and
Repatriated back as an "American National".
I have been married to my husband (both of us were born here and are
U.S. Citizens) for 22 years and he was trying to fight the IRS and
found on the internet info about Expatriation/Repatriation and how it
gets you out of the claws of the government supposedly etc... He had
this group help him do it and what you have to do is break all of the
"Invisible contracts" with the government, give up your drivers
license, social security card, etc.... and then you have to get things
like an International drivers license (which he did) and "REPATRIATE"
back into the United States as an "AMERICAN NATIONAL" but he said that
by him doing all of this it also nullifed/voided our marriage license
(I think he did all of this as he knew how much money his company was
going to be worth and he wanted it all for himself and his new life.
he used me to get there and now he has tossed our family aside and has
his new life with his new girlfriend. The classic mid life crisis
example out with the old and in with the new, because he told me "He
deserves it".
So he went and is seeing/dating a woman from his office and we are now
seperated and I want a divorce I want to move on with my life but I
want what is fair to me but he said that I can't get one as we
are no longer married. He said that I can go ahead and get "MY"
divorce but that he doesn't have to show up and I will NEVER be able
to collect as "THE COURTS NO LONGER HAVE JURISDICTION OVER HIM". He
has patents on some inventions that he came up with 20 years ago and
we both have been doing all that we could to get this up (I would work
2
jobs and also help him with whatever he needed done, we lived with my
sister and her family for 2 years "rent free" so
he wouldn't have to work and could concentrate on this only and have
no stress but during that time he started having an affair with a 20
year old that I worked with that lasted for about a year and when I
found out about it he said that he didn't want to lose his family and
life of 22 years and so I tried again and when I started to trust him
again he did it to ne again, I guess he wasn't finished "Protecting"
himself enough
 and now that it is finally here and we will or should I say he
will finally reap the fruits of everything he went and did all of this
so he doesn't have to give me anything except what "He" feels I should
have and only if I don't make him mad or upset him because if I do he
will cut me off from anything. Right now he is estimated to be worth
50 million on paper with his stocks, royalties and salary etc... and
he only gives me $1,000.00 (one thousand) a month to live on ( he
spends that much on lunches and dinner with his girlfriend a month). I
have been to 5 attorneys and they all want $5,000.00 to $10,000.00
dollars retainer and they tell me he can't do that and that people do
expatriation for taxes but when I ask them if he "CAN" do it they tell
me "well I don't THINK he can. I have been on the internet searching
for answers and I can't find anything to tell me if I can protect
myself. I am afraid to start divorce proceedings as it will make him
angry but I want out and I want what's fair to me and our 2 sons. I
have even written to the "We the people" group pretending to be him
asking for court cases, examples, info on what to do to "protect"
myself from the wife and no one answers me back. I don't have alot of
money as I was layed off and have not been able to find work yet. I
lost everything in a matter of 2 weeks, my husband, home, job etc...
My sons and I finally got a home but I'm afraid to start divorce
proceedings as the $ he gives me pays part of my rent. If you could
also put me in contact or give me leads to people who can help me I
would greatly appreciate it. I'm not trying to be greedy but for 23
years of marriage, 2 sons, loyalty and support I feel I deserve more
than what "HE FEELS" I should get. I appreciate any help you can give.
Thank you.
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Subject: Re: Expatriation & marriage
From: richard-ga on 13 Oct 2003 16:11 PDT
 
Hello.  I'm sorry you find yourself in this unhappy situation.

Your husband's notion that he's no longer a U.S. citizen or resident
of your state is completely false.  He can argue this point to you or
his acquaintances, but no court is going to agree with him.

Here are some legally decided cases that reject claims like his:

1. Lovell v. United States, 755 F.2d 517, 519 (7th Cir. 1984) (all
individuals, natural or unnatural, are  subject to federal income tax
on their wages)

2. United States v. Karlin, 785 F.2d 90, 91 (3d Cir. 1986)

3. United States v. Studley, 783 F.2d 934, 937 (9th Cir.
1986)(defendant who contended she was not a "taxpayer" because she was
an "absolute, freeborn and natural individual" raised frivolous
argument)

4. United States v. Price, 798 F.2d 111, 113 (5th Cir. 1986)

5. Itz v. United States Tax Court, 1987 WL 15893, at 5, 87-2 USTC P
9497 (W.D.Tex. May 6, 1987) (claim of plaintiff that he is a "de jure"
citizen as opposed to a "de facto" citizen is without merit)

6. Lonsdale v. United States, 919 F.2d 1440, 1447-48 (10th Cir.
1990)(plaintiff is a person subject to federal income tax,
invalidating numerous other frivolous tax protester arguments)

7. United States v. Silevan, 985 F.2d 962, 970 (8th Cir. 1993)
 
8. United States v. Gerads, 999 F.2d 1255, 1256 (8th Cir. 1993)(these
parties raised but had rejected the arguments that the US has no
"inland jurisdiction," that wages are not income, and that the federal
income tax is voluntary. "And finally, we reject appellant's
contention that they are not citizens of the United States, but rather
'Free Citizens of the Republic of Minnesota,' and consequently not
subject to taxation").

Destroyed Legal Arguments
http://www.caught.net/prose/deadissu.htm#Person

You are every bit as much married if you ever were.

But since you're going to get no cooperation from him in obtaining
this divorce, you do need to hire an attorney.  Eventually there will
be a court hearing, and if he fails to show up you will be able to get
a judgment in default against him.

Until you get that divorce, you and he are married.
Subject: Re: Expatriation & marriage
From: beachgirl-ga on 18 Oct 2003 14:27 PDT
 
Thank you for your comment. I understand all the info about how the
courts do not believe or reject this way of thinking but I have
watched him go into traffic court and show blatten disrespect to the
judge/commissioner and all they do is say to throw him out of the
courtroom and he just laughs at them. When he did all of this why did
the government let him by not responding to his letters and affidavits
and why do they have forms that allow people to do this. What is an
"American National" compared to a "U.S. Citizen" and what rights do
they have that we do or don't.

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