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Is this the best Crossword clue, ever?
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: probonopublico-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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20 Oct 2003 22:48 PDT
Expires: 19 Nov 2003 21:48 PST Question ID: 268171 |
1-0 66666 1000m volcano (5) |
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Re: Is this the best Crossword clue, ever?
Answered By: grimace-ga on 21 Oct 2003 08:34 PDT Rated: |
Altruistic work for poor, poor nob (3,4)* Well, since no one else has been drawn to answer this question, I thought I'd add a few more thoughts to my comment below. I trawled through my copy of Araucaria's 'Monkey Puzzles' (See below) and found a random selection of clues which you'd like, and which (in my opinion) have more claim to the title of best clue ever. Here goes... (a) Of of of of of of of of of of (10) (b) Cry for the Old Pretender (7) (c) Poetical scene has, surprisingly, chaste Lord Archer vegetating (3,3,8,12) Other old (non-Araucaria) chestnuts which spring to mind: (d) A wicked thing (6) (e) The charge of the light brigade (11,4) (f) Bust down reason (9) Let me know if you want to be put out of your misery on any of these... Now, then - books. The below are three indispensables if you're interested in crosswords and cluemanship: Ximenes on the Art of the Crossword http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/190340004X/ Don Manley's Crossword Manual http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0550216030/ And these are two books of Araucaria crosswords: Monkey Puzzles http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1843540045/ Chambers Book of Araucaria Crosswords http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0550101101/ An article on Araucaria: The Monkey Puzzler http://www.crossword.org.uk/arauc.htm Enigmatist: free puzzles (some by Araucaria, all excellent) http://www.enigmatist.com Visit the Guardian crossword talkboards - they're full of witty people and discussion about clues etcetera: http://talk.guardian.co.uk/ Finally, if you're bored, you could try my own crosswords at http://www.hegelian.co.uk/crossword3.html http://www.hegelian.co.uk/crossword4.html Yours, Researcher: "I'm surrounded by kindness!"(7) *Sorry - the best I could do! | |
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Hi, McGarie Many thanks for a marvellous answer ... It will give me hours of pleasure working out the teasers that you have set. You also reminded me that I already have a copy of Monkey Puzzles and, what is more, I remembered where it was ... and - guess what - I've only attempted (and completed) 4 out of the 100. So, more pleasure in store. Incidentally, I was in correspondence with Araucaria a few years ago and he produced some teasing clues for my name, etc. Great stuff! Bryan |
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Re: Is this the best Crossword clue, ever?
From: grimace-ga on 21 Oct 2003 00:40 PDT |
Hi there, As this is a very subjective answer, I'm posting it as a comment. I enjoyed this clue too in Thursday's Araucaria, but I thought it had several flaws. Firstly, the clue doesn't really have a strong surface reading. The best clues, in my opinion, read in a natural way, as if they are phrases or sentences lifted from a novel. There are no circumstances, as far as I can see, when one would say/write '1-0 66666 1000m volcano', are there? Secondly - it doesn't have the 'groan factor'. The really good clues are the ones which you tease away at for ages - then, when you suddenly suss them, it seems so obvious that you groan/laugh/fall off your chair. This one didn't do it for me, mainly because I had to check that the solution was indeed a volcano. A clue which *did* have the 'groan factor' in that puzzle was Little sir from 'Never On Sunday'? (9) A more conventional (but far easier) clue for this word might be Vines twisted round Big Ben (5) which uses more of a cryptic definition, and maybe has more of a groan attached. The clue reminded me of this one - I can't remember who it's by: Zo-Zo on his side in the garden (5) Which will elicit a serious groan when you work it out... grimace |
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Re: Is this the best Crossword clue, ever?
From: read2live-ga on 21 Oct 2003 01:59 PDT |
Hi, there! I do agree with grimace on the groan factor. I think the technical term is &lit (see "&Lit (And Literally So)" at <http://www.execulink.com/~tagies/cryptics/solvingguide/andlit.html>). My own all-time favorite is from the Telegraph : Not corvine, of course (6). Have you read Sandy Balfour's book "Pretty girl in crimson rose (8)"? It's quite a fun read, and has some comments to make along the way about Araucaria's clue-ing. best, r2l |
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