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Subject:
Trademarks and domains.
Category: Business and Money > eCommerce Asked by: lucylucylucy-ga List Price: $25.00 |
Posted:
21 Oct 2003 19:18 PDT
Expires: 27 Oct 2003 09:32 PST Question ID: 268439 |
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Subject:
Re: Trademarks and domains.
From: pafalafa-ga on 21 Oct 2003 19:56 PDT |
Lucylucylucy, Where's Ricky when you need him? Just a few thoughts, if I may: --have you considered other domain names, such as getyouracttogether.biz or get-your-act-together.net, both of which are currently available (as are other variations)? --if you really want the domain name that's up for sale for $10 thou, keep in mind that's just the asking price (five years ago, they might have gotten that kind of money...these days, it's much less likely). Offer them $500 and see if they take it. --If you really want to challenge the name based on the trademark, your options are arbitration or court and yes, it's not simple. Best of luck to you. pafalafa-ga |
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Re: Trademarks and domains.
From: snsh-ga on 21 Oct 2003 23:25 PDT |
I don't think you have much legal chance -- did you read the case about barcelona.com? The owner of the domain had turn it over to the city of Barcelona. One of the deciding factors in the court case was that the registrants themselves contacted the city offering to sell them the name. That small action put them into trademark infringement territory. If they hadn't solicited the city, they probably could have kept the name privately just like boston.com and madrid.com. It's kind of a long domain anyway. How about gyat-something, like gyat.net? |
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Re: Trademarks and domains.
From: mvguy-ga on 22 Oct 2003 00:04 PDT |
"Get your act together" is indeeed a common phrase, so I don't think you'd have a chance of being declared entitled to it. If your business were "Get Your Act Together Shoes" and you wanted getyouracttogethershoes.com, that would be another story. |
Subject:
Re: Trademarks and domains.
From: stressedmum-ga on 22 Oct 2003 06:48 PDT |
Hi lucylucylucy This is really interesting because I have been receiving invoices from a company advising me that payment for www.[myname].com is due, and I'm really annoyed about it! I never asked for this and can't imagine that there'd be too many takers for a domain name featuring with my own name -- I mean, it's not a well known name or anything! I think you hit the nail on the head when you say it's identity theft. This particular crowd have designed their invoices to look a lot like a utilities bill and just this week, they've sent me a 'red' reminder notice for AUD$237, advising me that my domain name is currently unregistered! I just wonder how many people have paid this company without realising that they're not legitimate.I tried phoning them several times but they only have an answering service and needless to say, I haven't heard back from them. I've also contacted our local Office of Fair Trading because I think that it's sharp business practice. We Luddites have the right idea about what's right and wrong I reckon. Good luck to both of us! |
Subject:
Re: Trademarks and domains.
From: ipfan-ga on 22 Oct 2003 08:43 PDT |
Dear lucylucylucy, When you say you trademarked the name in 1994, does that mean you obtained a federal registration? There is a federally registered trademark for "Get Your Act Together" (Registration Number 2114055) for personal business services, but that shows a first use date of 1991 and a registration date of 1997. Is that yours? Assuming it is, then you have pretty good rights to obtain the domain name from the domain registrant under one or more of the theories presented by missy-ga in her answer to Google Question ID No. 268274 (missy's answer was directed to the domain name owner, so you just have to "switch hats" as you read the answer since you are the trademark owner here). The domain registrant's argument that you have no rights since this is a common phrase is a lot of hogwash, especially if you indeed are the owner of that federal trademark registration. I encourage you to review missy-ga's answer and select a course of action that works for you. At a minimum, I would strongly demand that the domain registrant surrender the rights to you peaceably (perhaps you could offer to reimburse him for the registration costs) since you have superior rights to the domain under several theories. You may want to spend a few hundred bucks to get a good law firm to write to the domain registrant on their letterhead and threaten him (missy-ga has already done the research for them), but that's cheaper than either UDRP arbitration or full-blown litigation. Another tactic is to write to the registrar itself (the entity from whom the other guy obtained the domain registration, e.g., register.com--there are hundreds) and complain under their terms of use (all registrars have terms of use that govern their services, see, e.g., http://www.register.com/service-agreement.cgi?cmp=IL10682) and advise them that one of their customers is in breach of their terms of service by using a domain name that infringes on your trademark rights. Look at section 1(d) of the register.com terms of service and you'll see what I mean. I did not check to see if register.com is the registrar here--I just gave that as an example. At the end of the day, the domain registrant is a cybersquatter, pure and simple, especially if indeed you have been using the mark since 1991! Good luck and go get 'em! |
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