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Academie de Saint-Cyr in 1793; Question #2
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: seduangel-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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26 Oct 2003 22:49 PST
Expires: 25 Nov 2003 22:49 PST Question ID: 269993 |
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Re: Academie de Saint-Cyr in 1793; Question #2
From: leli-ga on 26 Oct 2003 23:43 PST |
Hi Seduangel Just a note for you and for my fellow researchers - to say I guess we must allow for Eco's imagination here. Until the revolution, St Cyr was used for the education of noble young ladies. In 1791 it was taken over by the state and in 1793 opened as a military hospital. Its life as a military school started in 1800. SAINT-CYR Maison Royale de Saint-Louis pour l'Education des Demoiselles nobles du Royaume http://ancre.chez.tiscali.fr/versailles/saint-cyr.htm Lycée militaire de Saint-Cyr http://www.defense.gouv.fr/terre/hf/formation/cofat/lycees/stcyr/info/historique.html Leli |
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Re: Academie de Saint-Cyr in 1793; Question #2
From: pinkfreud-ga on 28 Oct 2003 13:48 PST |
Please note that your question has not been answered, and your money has not been "taken by someone who could not answer the question." My colleague leli-ga posted her remark as a free comment. The only amount you have been charged is the fifty cent fee for listing the question. The $10 fee will be collected only if an official answer is posted by a Researcher. pinkfreud-ga, Google Answers Researcher |
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Re: Academie de Saint-Cyr in 1793; Question #2
From: seduangel-ga on 29 Oct 2003 05:28 PST |
I appologize for my rudeness... I just want to understand Eco's book, and everything else he has written (so far) is verifyable, understanding that this incredible history lesson Eco is giving is woven together by a fictional story. Simply the man is a genious. Eco in his book is giving clues in his fiction novel (with regards to examples in actual history) which lead to deeper truthes about the Kabalah. Simply the history (his reference to real historical events and people) and the answer to this question is important to me. |
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Re: Academie de Saint-Cyr in 1793; Question #2
From: markj-ga on 29 Oct 2003 06:41 PST |
seduabgel -- After whetting the appetite of the reader with the introductory material of chapters 1-6, Eco's narrator begins his tale in Chapter 7 with the sentence you have quoted (p.49 in my edition). In that sentence, Eco's narrator is clearly referring to his matriculation at the University of Milan "a year or two after 1968." As he says two pages later: "The University of Milan was the place to be in those years." Although's Eco's writing is filled with historical allusions -- sometimes more than one at a time -- his narrator's reference to 1968 seems to refer most directly to the political and social unrest in Europe that is identified with that year. The Fiat group summarizes it well in the section of its Web site related to the centennial of that company. Here are brief excerpt related specifically to the Italian experience: "Italy's "student movement" first raised its head in 1966 with the open warfare between Rome University's right and left wing students that was followed in 1967 by student occupations of several faculties in Turin and the Catholic University of Milan." . . . "The "Revolution of 1968" started rather earlier in Italy than in France, where the "évenements" of May 1968 represented its most intensive but also shortest-lived manifestation. . . . "Various factors combined to make Italy's 1968 experience unique, not least the special character of the modernisation process undergone by the country in the preceding decades." . . . "Against this general background there was one other peculiarity of Italy's 1968: while in other countries the student revolutionaries had tried and failed to achieve the dream of joining forces with "the workers", in Italy the New Left actually succeeded". Fiat Group: Centenary http://www.fiatgroup.com/fiat-centenary/appro/appro22.html Much more information about the socio/political situation in Italy at the time from both the left and right points of view is available on-line, and I suggest that you start with Google searches using combinations of terms such as "revolution of 1968", "italy", "social", "protest", and the like. I do not speak French, so that I can not do a through job of researching the part of your question related to the Acadamie de Saint-Cyr, althoug leli-ga has pointed you to a site that discusses its history. For that reason, I am posting this as a comment, not an answer. To me, Eco's juxtaposition of Italy/1968 with France/1793 seems intended simply to emphasize (hyperbolize?) the social unrest in Italy in 1968 by comparing it to the bloodiest year of the French revolution. markj-ga |
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Re: Academie de Saint-Cyr in 1793; Question #2
From: seduangel-ga on 29 Oct 2003 17:36 PST |
Thank you very much Markj... I appreciate your remarks. I am very ignorant of European history and it seems as though Eco describes the political unrest/conflict in Europe as we Americans discuss the differences between Republicans and Democrats. It's facinating to me. |
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