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Math calculation
Category: Business and Money > Small Businesses Asked by: blue_heron-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
29 Oct 2003 13:00 PST
Expires: 28 Nov 2003 13:00 PST Question ID: 270878 |
I need to know what is the percentage held by shareholders after each stage: A company starts off with 5 shareholders owning 52%, 12%, 12%, 12% & 12%. 1) One shareholder sells back to the company their 12% share. How much do the remaining four shareholders each own after the buyback? 2) Later, a second shareholder sells back their original 12% share. What percentages do the remaining three shareholders each own after the 2nd buyback? 3) Even later, a third shareholder sells back what was originally a 12% share. What percentages do the remaining two shareholders each own after the 3rd buyback? |
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Re: Math calculation
Answered By: sublime1-ga on 29 Oct 2003 13:16 PST |
blue_heron... Assuming all the remaining shareholders receive an equal split of the buyback, the figures resulting from each buyback would be as follows: 1) One 12% lot of shares split 4 ways, at 3% each = 4 shareholders owning 55%, 15%, 15%, 15% = 100% 2) One 15% lot of shares split 3 ways, at 5% each = 3 shareholders owning 60%, 20%, 20% = 100% 3) One 20% lot of shares split 2 ways, at 10% each = 2 shareholders owning 70%, 30% = 100% Please do not rate this answer until you are satisfied that the answer cannot be improved upon by means of a dialog established through the "Request for Clarification" process. sublime1-ga | |
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Re: Math calculation
From: ac67-ga on 29 Oct 2003 13:40 PST |
I don't think that's right. If the shares were sold back to the company, then the person who owns 52% of the company should get the majority, but will still own the same percentage relative to the other remaining holders. So will now hold: 52/(52+12+12+12) = 59.1% of the stock. The 12% holders will now hold : 12/(52+12+12+12) = 13.6% of the stock, all figures rounded to nearest tenth. The next one to sell back will be selling 13.6%, so the 52% holder will now have: 59.1/(59.1+13.6+13.6)=68.5%, and the two others will have: 13.6/(59.1+13.6+13.6)=15.8% (again rounded to nearest tenth). After the final sale, the two remaining will have: 68.5/(68.5+15.8)=81.3% and: 15.8/(68.5+15.8)=18.7%. The key is the answerer's assumption that the shares are split equally, but they wouldn't be. Since they were sold back to the company, the shares should be divided amongst the owners based on the number of shares they own. |
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Re: Math calculation
From: blue_heron-ga on 29 Oct 2003 14:05 PST |
Thank you ac67-ga for your thoughts on this question. I agree with your interpretation. |
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Re: Math calculation
From: ac67-ga on 29 Oct 2003 20:55 PST |
Sublime-1, Although it looks like you used a slightly different (and more complicated) way to figure it out, mathematically it reduces down to the same method. The only difference was that I rounded a little more for sake of simplicity in illustrating the calculation. |
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Re: Math calculation
From: gumbywankenobi-ga on 30 Oct 2003 16:34 PST |
The only time that the percentage of stock owned by an individual would affect the amount purchasable, is if that stock had "rights" attached to it. This is done to ensure that a shareholder cannot be diluted by further issues of stock without an option to participate. However these rights also have a value and can be sold at a par value. Typically in a buyback situation the stock would be put in a fund of the corporations rather than automatically distributed among the shareholders. In a small business I would guess that the stock could be sold to whomever the seller wishes to sell to and in whatever quantity. Unless there is a previous contract stating to the contrary. Therefore given the terms of the stock, either answer could be perfectly acceptable. |
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Re: Math calculation
From: financeguy-ga on 11 Nov 2003 14:13 PST |
Gentlemen, I disagree. The repurchase by a corporation of its own shares (a redemption) does not change the number of share that the other shareholders own. The guy who owned 52 shares before the transaction, still owns 52 shares after the transaction. However his interest in the entity has increased from 52/100 (52%) to 52/88 (59.09%). The shares owned by the corporation (aka Treasury shares) cannot typically be voted by the corporation under most state laws. As such the majority shareholder's voting interest in the corporate actually increases as because of the redemption transaction. |
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