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Subject: How to present a request for a pay rise for a small factory
Category: Business and Money > Employment
Asked by: strengthhonour-ga
List Price: $35.00
Posted: 15 Nov 2003 05:36 PST
Expires: 18 Dec 2003 15:25 PST
Question ID: 276086
We are a small company of around 60 employees and are owned by Harris
watson Holdings Plc.We were bought by them around 2.5 years ago.We had
a 2% pay rise the first year on the basic pay and a 1% pay rise the
2nd year-however this was not based on the basic rate but on the
profit related pay.Needless to say no-one was a happy bunny.On both
occasions we, as a workforce, sat back and let the employers offer a
pay rise.Our mistake was not to act first,but we shall not repeat this
mistake.
Our fiscal year is April to April and as a  company we have managed to
hit budget for most of the year.There was a small dip below the
budget,but it only lasted a few weeks.We get profit related pay which
is split and paid twice yearly.The current rate of inflation is about
2.8% and some people are forecasting an average increase in earnings
of 3.6%. Because of our poor pay rises in the last 2 years I am asking
above the inflation rate.
So I want to know how to reasonably ask for a 7% increase.How do I
present it formally and most importantly how do I word it? What is the
correct ettiquette and have I left it too late?What are the ground
rules for negotiation,things you must always do and things you never
do?Is there anything I can add,like more holidays for long serving staff?
Thats it,thanks.

Request for Question Clarification by omniscientbeing-ga on 15 Nov 2003 08:24 PST
strengthhonour-ga ,

Are you trying to get a raise for yourself only, or for all the
workers in the factory? In other words, are you asking for an economic
analysis of the % your company *can* give its workers a raise based on
the data you've supplied here, or are you interested in how to word a
letter of request such that you yourself are politely asking for a
raise, given your past performance, time with the company, etc.?

omniscientbeing-ga
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Clarification of Question by strengthhonour-ga on 15 Nov 2003 11:30 PST
I want a pay rise for the whole factory.i am helping the shop steward
to get this.I gave some of the background because I thought this was
relevant-we have not been making losses for example. I gave the owners
name because they are certainly not short of a few pounds,they
currently own some top brands.The pay offer however will be dealt with
our company management-not the owners.I don't want a detailed analysis
of the % that i want because you can't have enough information to make
that decision,but what i would like to know is how to word it,what to
say and what to emphasize.
We used to have 'service days' where long serving staff would get
extra paid days off,I would like to bring this back.What is important
to me is the presentation of the document that I will give to our
employers.I want it to come across as professional and reasonable.It
is vital that the pay offer we want is taken seriously and first
impressions will count for everything.Our production director is a man
who has previously been able to get what he wants-to our cost,and so
upon reading this document he will not simply be able to dismiss it.he
will have to deal with us correctly.I want him on the back foot from
day one.
7% given our previous rises is acceptable to us,we have not been making losses.
How can we present it to be acceptable to the company,as I say how do
I word it,structure it,what do i leave in,leave out,what do i
emphasize etc.....
Thanks
I hope this has cleared any confusion you may have had.
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Subject: Re: How to present a request for a pay rise for a small factory
From: johnfrommelbourne-ga on 16 Nov 2003 06:18 PST
 
Very interesting,  but once you take the plunge can you come back with
an update of how you went,i.e went for 7% and  actually got 5.5%,
asked for extra days paid for long-termers and got extra days for
those with 10 years service or more, etc etc.  Perhaps industrial
action of some kind is an option also
Subject: Re: How to present a request for a pay rise for a small factory
From: strengthhonour-ga on 16 Nov 2003 12:20 PST
 
Sure, I will let you know how we get on.Hopefully it can be resolved
with the right result but these things are precarious.I do feel very
strongly though about what we end up with and I won't back down
easily.This will be the first time I have done this(obviously-doh:)
With regard to industrial action though,well the lads can talk the
talk but when it boils down to action most people do a U-turn.So I
cannot see this as a possibilty.Just strong negotiation and the will
to succeed-bring it on.

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