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finding an obscure hard-to-spell song
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music Asked by: a_googler-ga List Price: $4.00 |
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16 Jun 2002 16:23 PDT
Expires: 23 Jun 2002 16:23 PDT Question ID: 27631 |
I have been looking for some time for a song that I played in high school band. My problem is that I am not certain how to spell it. The song's name is Toccatarentella, or something like that. The only other information that I have is what the song sounds like, but it is hard to express that via the web. So I really have two questions: 1) Where can I find information about this song, and 2) how should one go about searching for something that is both difficult to spell and obscure (so google wouldn't offer suggestions for other spellings)? |
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Re: finding an obscure hard-to-spell song
Answered By: knowledge_seeker-ga on 16 Jun 2002 19:24 PDT Rated: |
Hi there! How frustrating to be stuck with words in your head you cant quite spell! I know that feeling! The words you are looking for are Toccata and Tarantella. Tarantella defines a style of music and Toccata describes a type of performance. Unfortunately this means they are not necessarily definitive as the title of a song. The tarantella is a folk-dance from the Southern Italian town of Taranto. A 6/8 metre dance of some rapidity, it has been connected, by a process of false etymology, with the tarantula spider and either the effects of its bite or a means of its cure. There are well known examples in piano pieces by Chopin and by Liszt. http://www.hnh.com/mgloss.htm We know from the very popular iconography related to the tarantella, that it was basically executed by a violin and a colascione, playing the bass. http://www.cdroots.com/rd-paliotti.html There are three Tarantellas you can listen to on this site: http://www.sicilianculture.com/folklore/tarantella.htm A toccata is an instrumental piece, often designed to display the technical proficiency of a performer and found particularly in keyboard music from the 15th century onwards. There are notable examples in the organ music of Johann Sebastian Bach, with some toccatas containing a series of movements. http://www.hnh.com/mgloss.htm I have searched for these two terms (in both orders) but have found no references that show them together as the title of one musical piece. So, given these definitions, I would suggest that the song you played was a Tarantella and the added term Toccata indicated that the piece was played to showcase a particularly proficient performer in your band. What you might want to do at this point is start searching for Tarantella pieces and listening to them until you recognize one. You may even be able to narrow it down by composer as you become more familiar with them. One good place to begin would be on a Peer-to-Peer network such as Kazaa. My quick search there brought up over 100 songs with Tarantella in the title. http://www.kazaa.com/en/index.php Now that you know what youre asking for, you could also contact a high school band director and find out if there are any particular Tarantellas that are more suited for high school orchestras. It may turn out that there are a handful of old faithfuls that schools use. Also, there are many sites online that proved sheet music. Maybe you can search those and pick out the tunes on your piano (or whatever instrument)until you find one that sounds right. Or.. . write out the notes as you recall them and run them by a band director. Maybe someone will recognize them. Finally, I did send email your question to my sister who is plays classical piano. IF she gets back to me with anything, Ill post a clarification here, but please dont hold your breath. No promises, ok? I hope this has helped you narrow down your search. Best of luck, and thanks for using Google Answers. -K~ Search terms: Music Dictionary Toccata Tarantella Tarantella Toccata | |
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You guys are great! It was indeed Washburn's version that I was looking for. (His name, along with the description of the song) sounds very familiar. The song is listed as 1996, which makes sense since that was approximately when our band played it and I remember it being new at the time. Alas, I had also searched Kazaa hoping to hear it again, with no luck. I just checked CDDB and it isn't listed there either. I suppose I could contact either a high school band music distribution company or a band director if I really wanted to listen to it. |
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Re: finding an obscure hard-to-spell song
From: porkribs-ga on 16 Jun 2002 18:28 PDT |
Hi, a_googler. Obviously I can't be positive, but I believe you're looking for "Toccata and Ritornello" from the opera Orfeo, by Monteverdi. My path to this was somewhat torturous. Spell checkers provided no help here :( but when I realized that the first part of your single word was "Toccata" (a classical music term that's defined here: http://www.pacificsites.com/~chrisk/edutech/frames/toccata.htm), a search for all songs with the word "Toccata" at CDNow (http://www.cdnow.com/) led me to this piece. Once I found it was in the opera "Orfeo", I did a google search for "Orfeo toccata" and found this: http://www.chesternovello.com/work/7413/main.html . As for spell checkers: they're either general or somewhat specialized, and I didn't find a spell checker for musical pieces. As much as I love the Web, I have to say that a phone call to a classical record store might have been the quickest way to find this particular answer! Please do let me know if this answers your question. Porkribs (not a paid researcher, as of yet) |
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Re: finding an obscure hard-to-spell song
From: davidsar-ga on 16 Jun 2002 19:28 PDT |
Might any of these be them -- it's from a list of popular band tunes (you can scan other possibilities at the lists at the site below): http://www.westcoastmusicservice.com/ALPHA-T.htm Tanantella arr. Reed WW- 1219 Toccata Fescobaldi/Slocum TKWO- 804 Toccata & Fugue in d minor Bach EWE- 429 Toccata & Fugue in d minor Bach/Dupont HASKE- 1100 Toccata & Fugue in d minor Bach/Fujita TKWO- 104 Toccata & Fugue in d minor Bach/Hindsley UISB- 938 Toccata & Fugue in d minor Bach/Hindsley UISB- 1121 Toccata and Fugue in d minor Bach/Fujita TKWO- 1610 Toccata and Fugue, BVW 565 Bach/Fujita BM-TKWO- 1316 Toccata Fanfares Iannaccone VAWB- 1195 Toccata Festiva van der Roost HASKE- 1081 Toccata Festiva van der Roost HASKE- 1096 Toccata for Band Erickson ERIC- 866 Toccata for Band Erickson NTWS- 1182 Toccata for Band Erickson NIU- 1442 Toccata from "Sinfonia Festiva" Running STO- 986 Toccata Marziale Vaughan Williams WWMD- 1676 Toccata Marziale Vaughn Williams TKWO- 100 Toccata Marziale Vaughn Williams EWE- 154 Toccata Marziale Vaughn Williams LWO- 588 Toccata Marziale Vaughn williams STO- 987 Toccata Marziale Vaughn Williams TKWO- 1000 Toccata Marziale Vaughn Williams RNCWO- 1286 Toccata Marziale Vaughn williams KWE- 1368 Toccata Marziale Vaughn Williams EWE- 1416 Toccata Marziale Vaughn Williams UWM- 1547 Toccata Marziale Vaughn Williams VBEB- 1607 Toccata, Adagio and Fugue Bach/Paynter UNCG- 1636 Dave |
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Re: finding an obscure hard-to-spell song
From: erhirvo-ga on 16 Jun 2002 21:39 PDT |
Hi a_googler-ga, I believe that answer to your question is nearer than you know. I first started looking for songs with tarantella, as I vaguely remember that I heard something resembling to that when in school ages ago. As that method didn't get me any other hits than Tarantella dance, I tried with words tocca and tarantella, as tocca comes from Italian, as does that aforementioned dance. That pair also provided hits but again mostly associated with this particular dance. Then I tried a Google search with search word toccatarantella (only one letter changed) and guess what, I got several hits. I believe that song you are looking for is "Toccatarantella" by Robert Washburn. This song was published in 1995 by Belwin, which is nowadays part of Warner Bros. Robert Washburn has composed several works for orchestra and concert bands. Sigma Alpha Iota Philanthropies, Inc. homepage mentions under heading Music for Young Perfomers Band/Wind Ensemble also this composition by Robert Washburn. You might want to check these web sites to decide, if this is really the song you are looking for. This site even describes what kind of song is in question. Montana Music Educators: http://mtmusiced.org/mba.html Excerpt: "Toccatarantella" by Washburn; publ. Belwin (combined toccata and tarantella; spontaneous, but precise; variety of percussion, changing tempos) Oregon Band Directors Association homepage http://www.lclark.edu/~dbecker/litlist.htm 1996-99 Concert Band Contest Literature List Washburn Toccatarantella 96 Bel-95 (where 96 means year when composition was added to the list, and Bel-95 means the publisher and year of publishing) Oregon Band Directors Association a pdf -document http://www.oregonmusic.org/data/documents/approved_band.pdf 2000 Concert Band Contest Literature List Classification III 3A High Schools (page 3) Washburn Toccatarantella 96 Bel-95 COMPOSERS BUREAU - Robert Washburn Sigma Alpha Iota Philanthropies, Inc. homepage http://www.sai-national.org/phil/composers/rwashb2.html Toccatarantella is mentioned under heading Works for Concert Band. The Capital Region Wind Ensemble homepage Wind Band Literature http://www.geocities.com/crweband/hist.html Toccatarantella - Robert Washburn If you would like to know more about the composer you can, e.g., read this biographical presentation published by Sigma Alpha Iota Philanthropies, Inc. Sigma Alpha Iota Philanthropies, Inc. http://www.sai-national.org/phil/composers/rwashbur.html Terms used in Google Search: Tarantella Tocca Tarantella Toccatarantella Toccatarantella Washburn Robert Washburn Answering to your other problem is very difficult. I think that searching for information in Internet needs both willingness to try creative search methods and sheer perseverance. I found this information because my native tongue is other than English so I'm acutely aware that pronouncing of English doesnt necessarily give you any clue how something is written. As most of us remember better words and names how we hear them, it might be helpful to think how that particular search word could be written otherwise as based on pronouncing. Also developing skills in backward searching might lead you to the answer. Like in this case you might start with search words high school band literature and narrow down your search accordingly, like to type of band you played in etc. Also, you could ask directly from your former classmates or teacher if that is possible. Of course there are as many methods as there are people so one method is good for me but other search method might work better for another person. I hope this answer helps you finding the right song. Yours, erhirvo-ga |
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