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How much money do good writers make?
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Books and Literature Asked by: fleasting-ga List Price: $8.00 |
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17 Nov 2003 09:10 PST
Expires: 17 Dec 2003 09:10 PST Question ID: 276735 |
What is the most "revenue" one can realistically expect from a career of writing? Please consider fiction novels, short stories and business books as the type of writing, and assume the quality to be very good. How hard is it to break in if one is unknown? Is book writing on it's way out as a way to make millions? (Please excuse this cold approach to writing as a source of income rather than an art form - I am just trying to find my calling in life.) Thank you. |
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Re: How much money do good writers make?
Answered By: kriswrite-ga on 17 Nov 2003 10:00 PST Rated: |
Hello fleasting~ Despite what some books and seminars might tell you, writing has never been a good way to make millions. A small percentage of people make a living writing, and an even smaller percentage make millions. It is possible to make a fairly decent living at writing, but there are many factors to involved: 1. What sort of writing you?re involved in (nonfiction, fiction, technical, ads, etc.) 2. How strong your talent and craft are. 3. Whether or not you know how to be a pro. You have named two very different areas of writing as your interest: Fiction and nonfiction. Although much of the craft of writing remains the same in both these areas, the business side of each is quite different. It is, without a doubt, more difficult to be a truly successful fiction writer than it is to be a successful nonfiction writer. This has nothing to do with talent or craft, and everything to do with demand. Whereas there?s a huge number of want-to-be-published fiction writers and a limited market for fiction, there?s a huge market for nonfiction and very few *good* nonfiction writers. That said, with persistence and know-how, it?s possible to break into *both* genres. (I speak both from personal experience, and from watching the experiences of others.) It would be very difficult to make much money writing short stories. Although authors who already have big-names (from their novels) do sell short stories for a considerable amount of money, such sales are still rare. Those without a name in publishing can expect to earn nothing or very little off of short story writing. The demand simply isn?t high. However, it?s often wise to get a few short stories published (even if the pay isn?t outstanding) if you want a novel published. Just because you can write a short story doesn?t mean you can write a novel, but editors like to have some idea of a writer?s professional background and ability. (On the other hand, if short story writing turns out to not really be your strength, you should have no worries. Editors are very much aware that writing short fiction is quite different from writing a novel.) To break into novel writing, you simply must sit down and write. Unless you are already a famous writer, you?re not going to be able to get a publishing contract until an editor has read your manuscript. So the first step is to work on your craft and write a polished, professional manuscript. (The second step is to learn how to submit your book professionally.) Many unknowns are published each year; the ?trick? is just to submit professionally and be persistent. Many writers submit a manuscript for years before their first novel is published. To break into non-fiction, it?s smart to write magazine articles first. Editors like to see ?clips? (copies or tear-sheets of magazine articles) on the topic of your proposed book. The more recognizable the magazine name, the better. Therefore, you may wish to spend some time ?moving up the ladder? in the magazine world. If you submit professionally, it is relatively easy to get a magazine article published, even if you?re unknown. Getting a nonfiction book contract requires a little less work for the writer, since you needn?t have a complete manuscript in tow. You do, however, need a very well written book proposal and query, plus some sample chapters. You also need to understand how to submit your work professionally. These are the keys to getting a non-fiction book published. A famous names might help, but it is definitely not mandatory. All this said, it?s difficult to give a rough estimate of what a writer might make in these fields. Everyone?s talent, tenacity, and professionalism differs. We can begin by acknowledging that the National Writer?s Union says that only 15 percent of working writers earn even $30,000 annually. (p. 61, Writer?s Market 2000, edited by Kirsten C. Holm, Writer?s Digest Books, 2000) This is for all genres, including technical writing (a lucrative field). According to Writer?s Market, however, their own polls show that ?a substantial number of writers? earn $30,000 to $40,000 ?and more? per year. Their figures conclude that writers earn between $20 to $50 an hour when writing books, and 20 cents to 4 cents per word on magazine feature articles (on up to $150 to 2, 750 for larger magazines). They give no figures for writing short stories, but they are typically much less lucrative than writing magazine features. How often you work will determine how much you earn, but the beginning writer (with few or no published credits under his or her belt) can expect to earn very little in their first year. In most cases, it takes time to build up a writing career. Good luck! Kriswrite Research strategy: Researcher's personal knowledge of the writing field. |
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Re: How much money do good writers make?
From: taxmama-ga on 17 Nov 2003 10:48 PST |
Dear Kris, I beg to differ with your income expectations. If a writer diligently pitches articles, sooner or later they will develop a relationship with a variety of publications. As a result, they will have steady work with a variety of them, whether in fiction or non-fiction. Each article or short story can be expected to generate between $200 - $500. The writers that work at their craft and keep pitching, will often find themselves in a position to take over entire newsletters (if they market themselves). Those will pay five figures per issue, depending on the size and complexity of the publication and the audience. Typically, the full-time writers I know (at least the ones who market and are willing to do the small, quickie projects as well as the more lucrative jobs) earn from $50,000 to $80,000 per year. Here's a realistic goal - try to establish yourself to sell and write one article or short story per day - at an average of $300 = $78,000 per year. Yes, it's not that hard. And, often, you'll find yourself working on bits and pieces of several articles or stories at once, as you gather information and ideas. Best wishes Your TaxMama-ga Research strategy: My own experience and those of clients, and writers who interview me. |
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Re: How much money do good writers make?
From: taxmama-ga on 17 Nov 2003 10:50 PST |
P.S. Oh, by the way, I also know many writers who are starving, too. Why? They are either going for the big projects and not getting them. And earning none of the small fees along the way. Or they are totally depressed by their rejections and failures - and it takes about two years to get out those troughs of misery. |
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Re: How much money do good writers make?
From: owain-ga on 17 Nov 2003 11:19 PST |
This isn't realistic for most people, but "Harry Potter" author J K Rowling is the best paid author in history, according to a list of Britain's top earners. Rowling, currently writing the sixth Potter book, earned £125m last year - the equivalent of £388 for each word in this year's Order of the Phoenix. She is also the 5th highest earner in Britain and the highest earning woman. Her agent is said to have approached 12 publishers with the first draft of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone before Bloomsbury took him up on the deal, so don't give up hope at the first rejection! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/3234857.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3234321.stm Owain |
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Re: How much money do good writers make?
From: czh-ga on 17 Nov 2003 11:37 PST |
Hello fleasting-ga, Here are the official numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos089.htm Writers and Editors Significant Points -- Most jobs require a college degree either in the liberal arts?communications, journalism, and English are preferred?or a technical subject for technical writing positions. -- Competition is expected to be less for lower paying, entry-level jobs at small daily and weekly newspapers, trade publications, and radio and television broadcasting stations in small markets. -- Persons who fail to gain better paying jobs or earn enough as independent writers usually are able to transfer readily to communications-related jobs in other occupations. The key point, as confirmed by the kriswrite's answer and the comments on your question show, is that you have innumerable options on how to become a writer and the financial rewards greatly depend on your persistence and self-discipline. Good luck. ~ czh ~ |
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Re: How much money do good writers make?
From: kriswrite-ga on 17 Nov 2003 13:45 PST |
Hi taxmama, et al~ You are right that nonfiction magazine writers can make a better living. However, the customer wasn't specifically interested in magazine writing. Note that fleasting was specifically interested in what could be expected from a career writing short stories, novels, and nonfiction books. Kriswrite |
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