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Subject:
legislation regarding floating homes
Category: Family and Home > Home Asked by: whitehead-ga List Price: $50.00 |
Posted:
17 Jun 2002 04:18 PDT
Expires: 24 Jun 2002 04:18 PDT Question ID: 27838 |
The washington Legislature passed legislation giving property containing floaging homes before 1984 a Grandfather clause. The department of natural resources is in the process of changing their rules. The new rules are indicating that the space where the floating homes are moored is what is grandfathered not the floating home. I want to know what the intent of the Washington Legislature was when it passed the law giving these Grandfathered designations. I currently own a floating home that was in a department of natural resources space before l984. It was evicted from the space and has no space to move to. The new rules would take away the "Grandfather clause" I believed I had when I purchased the Floating Home. If the Department of Natural Resources is successful in changing these Grandfathering clauses to mean the space only , some Marina owners will be given a lot of power. That means they can raise their rents, make demands on home owners regarding anything they decide they want. It will be like they are the owners of the actual home because the only remedy of the floating home owner would be to move the floating home which is very expensive and there are very few spaces available. There are especially very few spaces for homes that were on the water before l984 because they are older styles and older conditions. |
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Re: legislation regarding floating homes
Answered By: davidsar-ga on 17 Jun 2002 04:48 PDT Rated: |
The laws of the state of Washington can be found and searched at: http://access.wa.gov/government/awlaws.asp I conducted a search on "floating home": http://search.leg.wa.gov/pub/textsearch/ViewRoot.aspAction=Html&Item=0&X=617042949&p=1 The current Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 82.08.034 unambiguously states that: (7) "Floating home" means a building on a float used in whole or in part for human habitation as a single-family dwelling, which is not designed for self propulsion by mechanical means or for propulsion by means of wind, and which is on the property tax rolls of the county in which it is located. There are other sections of the RCW that repeat this same definition. Thus, it seems clear that, for the purposes of these laws (which all relate to taxation), the definition of a floating home clearly pertains to the building itself, rather than the space in which it is moored. I hope this answers your question. If your situation pertains to a different aspect of law, please clarify your request, and I will look into it further. Thanks...and good luck. Dave | |
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whitehead-ga
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I don't seem to get the answer to the question. Perhaps it is because legislators have not responded. the Legislature makes laws, agencies interpret the laws and make rules. The intent is enforceable. The rules are in the process of being changed. I need to get to the legislative intent to stop the rule change. |
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Re: legislation regarding floating homes
From: weisstho-ga on 17 Jun 2002 05:09 PDT |
There may be a few other considerations. 1. Assuming that they State has not infringed a "fundamental Constitutional right" (and I think most would agree that such a "fundamental" interest does not exist here) they (State of Washington) only need to show a "legitimate government interest" and that the "means used to regulate that interest are rationally related to the interest). Although there do not APPEAR to be such fundamental interests at stake, certainly from a federal constitutional perspective, are there any State of Washington constitutional protections that you can rely upon? Attorney question. 2. Even if the state is justified in making such regulation, there may be a Fifth Amendment "Takings" issue ("No person shall . . . be deprived of . . . property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.") It is difficult to ascertain from the fact pattern presented whether there has been a taking of a personal property right, or a real property right, or a deprivation generally for fifth amendment purposes here. Again, attorney question. A good property law expert should be consulted - he/she should be able to fairly quickly (within, say, two hours of billable time) reach a preliminary conclusion as to whether the state's actions are justified, and if justified, are compensable. Remembering that you asked about legislative intent, I would suggest that this is very difficult to ascertain with Internet resources. You may want to find out who your local representative in the state legislature is and consult a member of his/her staff. They should be able to track this down for you. If there is a state library, that would be another great source. You will obviously want to look at the committee hearing transcripts to get at this question. Caution though, absent some significant debate to exactly support your position, many (though not all) courts will not go that way and rely strictly upon the plain reading of the text. Best of luck. I would definitely consult a property attorney. weisstho-ga |
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Re: legislation regarding floating homes
From: weisstho-ga on 17 Jun 2002 05:26 PDT |
I believe that this is the proposed regulation you are referring to: http://www.wa.gov/dnr/htdocs/aqr/residentaluse/draft%20rule.htm It *appears* that, unless the legislature has recently taken action, that this is still in the proposal stage? |
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